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Aug 28, 2019 22:18:39 GMT
Post by goz on Aug 28, 2019 22:18:39 GMT
Why on earth would you say that when I am merely commenting on what Clusium has stated on this very thread? Previously I had NO IDEA that religious people would even think this shit about a sci-fi series, however it makes sense NOW as she claims it for a fact. Your defensiveness is becoming chronic, pathological and worrisome! Almost any person with an ounce of knowledge of religion KNOWS that Star Wars is filled with religious themes. Star Trek goes the other way. It's filled with ATHEISTIC themes. Oh, & for the record, I never said that Star Wars was just like my own religion!! Prove it.
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Aug 28, 2019 22:28:00 GMT
Post by clusium on Aug 28, 2019 22:28:00 GMT
Almost any person with an ounce of knowledge of religion KNOWS that Star Wars is filled with religious themes. Star Trek goes the other way. It's filled with ATHEISTIC themes. Oh, & for the record, I never said that Star Wars was just like my own religion!! Prove it. You prove that I did!!! I already pointed out that the Force was inspired by the Tao. That's Chinese religion.
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Aug 28, 2019 22:33:24 GMT
Post by clusium on Aug 28, 2019 22:33:24 GMT
You prove that I did!!! I already pointed out that the Force was inspired by the Tao. That's Chinese religion. The religious themes in Star Wars (for the benefit of all the idiots on this message forum): Breaking Down The Theology Of Star Wars
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Aug 28, 2019 22:38:26 GMT
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Post by gadreel on Aug 28, 2019 22:38:26 GMT
I am well aware that some of those guys are atheists. Yes, Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, was definitely an atheist, & his atheism made its way into his series. George Lucas, on the other hand, was more spiritual, & as any fan of Star Wars knows, religion is very heavy in the series. How so? If you are thinking of the Jedi then I disagree. Their primary claim is that life creates an "energy field" which connects everything together, and that individuals can access this field and thereby gain extraordinary abilities such as telekinesis, prescience, increased physical speed, etc. They further claim that on death one can transfer one's personality (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) into this energy field, where it continues to operate and can interact with the living. But these are not faith claims. The force absolutely does exist, and any Jedi can easily and immediately prove it. Jedi can levitate objects, on command. Their ghosts do exist. They can sense distant events, and future events. Hell, they even have a scientific explanation for how the force is created and how individuals can access it, via the parasite midichlorians that all people carry. There's nothing religious about any of this; it's pure applied science. The only thing remotely religious is that the Jedi adopted some of the cosmetic trappings of religion, and that occasionally people describe it as such. But it's really not. To be fair, the midichlorians are a retcon, and at least once the belief of the sith (which is of course the belief of the jedi) is referred to as a religion. The fact is that (at least according to my understanding) George Lucas originally borrowed a whole lot from various sources including religious ones. And lets be fair in a lot of instances the claims made by esoteric religions about the abilities of the masters are extraordinarily similar to the feats of the jedi, although the jedi seem to have the best of the lot.
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Aug 28, 2019 23:06:29 GMT
Post by goz on Aug 28, 2019 23:06:29 GMT
You prove that I did!!! I already pointed out that the Force was inspired by the Tao. That's Chinese religion. The religious themes in Star Wars (for the benefit of all the idiots on this message forum): Breaking Down The Theology Of Star Wars Gee! A blog opinion website. I am underwhelmed. Have you been taking notes from Heeeey and Ejrenious?
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Aug 28, 2019 23:09:09 GMT
Post by clusium on Aug 28, 2019 23:09:09 GMT
Gee! A blog opinion website. I am underwhelmed. Have you been taking notes from Heeeey and Ejrenious? No, I've been taking notes from Google.com
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Aug 28, 2019 23:38:42 GMT
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Post by gadreel on Aug 28, 2019 23:38:42 GMT
Gee! A blog opinion website. I am underwhelmed. Have you been taking notes from Heeeey and Ejrenious? No, I've been taking notes from Google.com I would not be too concerned it is actually not a bad write up, and jibes with things George Lucas has already said.
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Aug 28, 2019 23:42:01 GMT
Post by clusium on Aug 28, 2019 23:42:01 GMT
No, I've been taking notes from Google.com I would not be too concerned it is actually not a bad write up, and jibes with things George Lucas has already said. Exactly.
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Aug 29, 2019 0:28:22 GMT
Post by goz on Aug 29, 2019 0:28:22 GMT
Gee! A blog opinion website. I am underwhelmed. Have you been taking notes from Heeeey and Ejrenious? No, I've been taking notes from Google.com I can barely be bothered to answer this because religion itself is such a fantasy in and of itself that you believing the two are the same, doesn't really make much difference. Lets agree to disagree that there may be some universal themes of fantasy in both religion and Star Wars.
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Aug 29, 2019 3:03:30 GMT
Post by clusium on Aug 29, 2019 3:03:30 GMT
No, I've been taking notes from Google.com I can barely be bothered to answer this because religion itself is such a fantasy in and of itself that you believing the two are the same, doesn't really make much difference. Lets agree to disagree that there may be some universal themes of fantasy in both religion and Star Wars. Sure.
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