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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 25, 2019 13:09:48 GMT
Not all that long ago you affirmed (when I asked) that your unbaptized status was unchanged.
I was expecting you to evade my perfectly fair question. Just wasn't sure, of course, what form your evasion would take.
Show me where I said I'm unbaptized. That would seem to determine whether your question is a fair one or is gibberish.
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Post by Isapop on Aug 25, 2019 13:41:26 GMT
Not all that long ago you affirmed (when I asked) that your unbaptized status was unchanged.
I was expecting you to evade my perfectly fair question. Just wasn't sure, of course, what form your evasion would take.
Show me where I said I'm unbaptized. That would seem to determine whether your question is a fair one or is gibberish. Stop being ridiculous. That exchange goes too far back (a year or more) to ever retrieve. If you want to set the record straight on that (still unbaptized?) right now, you can. (Maybe looking4klingons still wants to know, as he once put it, "When will I get to call you brother?").
As it stands, I've pointed out that claiming a "ten" to the OP's question is incompatible with your unbaptized status. And you waste time doing your usual dances to avoid the point.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 25, 2019 13:53:50 GMT
Show me where I said I'm unbaptized. That would seem to determine whether your question is a fair one or is gibberish. Stop being ridiculous. That exchange goes too far back (a year or more) to ever retrieve. If you want to set the record straight on that (still unbaptized?) right now, you can. (Maybe looking4klingons still wants to know, as he once put it, "When will I get to call you brother?").
As it stands, I've pointed out that claiming a "ten" to the OP's question is incompatible with your unbaptized status. And you waste time doing your usual dances to avoid the point.
If I belong to a religion that requires baptism then I am baptized. I am glad you acknowledge that you've got nothing to go off of except for perhaps a dementia addled brain that also triggers these weird accusations with no basis. You do realize you have never won one of these things don't you?
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Post by Isapop on Aug 25, 2019 14:09:37 GMT
Stop being ridiculous. That exchange goes too far back (a year or more) to ever retrieve. If you want to set the record straight on that (still unbaptized?) right now, you can. (Maybe looking4klingons still wants to know, as he once put it, "When will I get to call you brother?").
As it stands, I've pointed out that claiming a "ten" to the OP's question is incompatible with your unbaptized status. And you waste time doing your usual dances to avoid the point.
If I belong to a religion that requires baptism then I am baptized. A totally nonsensical statement (and totally evasive again). If you are not baptized you can still attend and associate even though you do not officially "belong" to that religion.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 25, 2019 14:46:41 GMT
If I belong to a religion that requires baptism then I am baptized. A totally nonsensical statement (and totally evasive again). If you are not baptized you can still attend and associate even though you do not officially "belong" to that religion.
Of course you can "associate" since everyone's invited at most churches. If you walked into a church of any religion, what logic are you using to suggest you would become a follower? You would still be a lying stinky theophobiac correct? However, it should have been clear to intelligent people that I do indeed belong to a church unless you can provide evidence showing otherwise....Which you admit you can't since to paraphrase you: ...Despite all threads still being here since the inception of the board. You are just smart enough to realize that it is pointless searching for a conversation that never happened.
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Post by Isapop on Aug 25, 2019 15:01:05 GMT
A totally nonsensical statement (and totally evasive again). If you are not baptized you can still attend and associate even though you do not officially "belong" to that religion.
Of course you can "associate" since everyone's invited at most churches. If you walked into a church of any religion, what logic are you using to suggest you would become a follower? You would still be a lying stinky theophobiac correct? However, it should have been clear to intelligent people that I do indeed belong to a church unless you can provide evidence showing otherwise....Which you admit you can't since to paraphrase you: ...Despite all threads still being here since the inception of the board. You are just smart enough to realize that it is pointless searching for a conversation that never happened. Despite your massive attempts to shift the point to whether I can prove that you said something long ago, the fact remains that you don't deny that you remain unbaptized and that you cannot answer the point that I began with.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 25, 2019 15:45:38 GMT
Of course you can "associate" since everyone's invited at most churches. If you walked into a church of any religion, what logic are you using to suggest you would become a follower? You would still be a lying stinky theophobiac correct? However, it should have been clear to intelligent people that I do indeed belong to a church unless you can provide evidence showing otherwise....Which you admit you can't since to paraphrase you: ...Despite all threads still being here since the inception of the board. You are just smart enough to realize that it is pointless searching for a conversation that never happened. Despite your massive attempts to shift the point to whether I can prove that you said something long ago, the fact remains that you don't deny that you remain unbaptized and that you cannot answer the point that I began with. Lol. You proving has everything to do with the initial statement and your insistence on it being true. All you have to do is admit you have no verification on it, accept that I am baptized, & then move on to derail another thread. But you can't do it can you. I know! I will acknowledge the apology you gave that I can't possibly find right now but fortunately doesn't matter since it isn't important. Now onto the second stupid point. As I have stated before, Christians are required to be baptized. If I claim to be a Christian, which I have done on numerous occasions that you should be able to find if you weren't so lazy, then I am claiming to be baptized by default.
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Post by mslo79 on Aug 25, 2019 17:23:27 GMT
It's a easy 10/10 even though it might not seem that way for us currently with all of the worldly pleasures, along with our fallen nature, blinding us from seeing the truth clearly. because after we pass from this life you only got one of two final destinations... Heaven or hell. only God can ultimately make a person happy in the long term as the pleasures of this earth are fleeting and will ultimately end. so it's wise to try to store our treasure in Heaven the best we can...
"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." - Matthew 6:19-21
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Post by Isapop on Aug 25, 2019 18:46:14 GMT
Despite your massive attempts to shift the point to whether I can prove that you said something long ago, the fact remains that you don't deny that you remain unbaptized and that you cannot answer the point that I began with. accept that I am baptized So, it's all changed now? You got baptized as a Jehovah's Witness? That would have to be pretty recent, because here you are addressing me just this past February: "You of all people should realize I know more about the nuances of JW life since you seem to think I am one." And my reply: " I have lost count of the times that I have plainly told you that I know that you are not a JW even though you subscribe to their theology." imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/153472/believing-family-shuns-leaving-church?page=2 And that's how it was, going back to the old board. BUT NOW, WE ON THIS BOARD SHOULD ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE BAPTIZED. This is a milestone! looking4klingons must be delighted that he can now call you "brother". And everyone else won't have to guess anymore when you make vague references to "my church" or cryptic hints about your theology.
(Oh, if it turns out you really aren't baptized, you'd best clear that up. Telling people to accept that you are baptized when you aren't isn't nice.)
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Post by goz on Aug 25, 2019 22:04:20 GMT
It's a easy 10/10 even though it might not seem that way for us currently with all of the worldly pleasures, along with our fallen nature, blinding us from seeing the truth clearly. because after we pass from this life you only got one of two final destinations... Heaven or hell. only God can ultimately make a person happy in the long term as the pleasures of this earth are fleeting and will ultimately end. so it's wise to try to store our treasure in Heaven the best we can... "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." - Matthew 6:19-21 I really feel sorry for you ( and such as you) that you are SO delusional that you are not living the best life you can here on earth ( which I happen to believe is the only one) and that you delay any kind of 'pleasure'( in the genuine sense) in the mistaken belief that it will come to you in Heaven. This is so ridiculous that I am absolutely appalled if people actually do that. I am far from hedonistic however I can't imagine denying myself healthful wondrous and beautiful opportunities in life because of this ridiculous notion of Heaven and Hell. I would not deny myself contraception so that I can manage my fertility, I would no deny myself access to medical technology. I would not deny myself access to loving a person of which ever sex or trans etc etc etc
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 25, 2019 22:04:39 GMT
accept that I am baptized So, it's all changed now? You got baptized as a Jehovah's Witness? That would have to be pretty recent, because here you are addressing me just this past February: "You of all people should realize I know more about the nuances of JW life since you seem to think I am one." And my reply: " I have lost count of the times that I have plainly told you that I know that you are not a JW even though you subscribe to their theology." imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/153472/believing-family-shuns-leaving-church?page=2 And that's how it was, going back to the old board. BUT NOW, WE ON THIS BOARD SHOULD ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE BAPTIZED. This is a milestone! looking4klingons must be delighted that he can now call you "brother". And everyone else won't have to guess anymore when you make vague references to "my church" or cryptic hints about your theology.
(Oh, if it turns out you really aren't baptized, you'd best clear that up. Telling people to accept that you are baptized when you aren't isn't nice.)
You finally got something right amidst all the wrong. I am not baptized as one of Jehovahs Witnesses. You convenient forget the number of times I have said that is don’t agree with some of their tenets, don’t live by their theology, nor would I ever qualify anyway. You continually fail to convince me that I’m living by their standards. So what kind of moron ignores all of that to hammer home a point meant only to derail a thread with lies about me? You. You are that moron.
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Post by Isapop on Aug 25, 2019 22:09:58 GMT
So, it's all changed now? You got baptized as a Jehovah's Witness? That would have to be pretty recent, because here you are addressing me just this past February: "You of all people should realize I know more about the nuances of JW life since you seem to think I am one." And my reply: " I have lost count of the times that I have plainly told you that I know that you are not a JW even though you subscribe to their theology." imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/153472/believing-family-shuns-leaving-church?page=2 And that's how it was, going back to the old board. BUT NOW, WE ON THIS BOARD SHOULD ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE BAPTIZED. This is a milestone! looking4klingons must be delighted that he can now call you "brother". And everyone else won't have to guess anymore when you make vague references to "my church" or cryptic hints about your theology.
(Oh, if it turns out you really aren't baptized, you'd best clear that up. Telling people to accept that you are baptized when you aren't isn't nice.)
I am not baptized as one of Jehovahs Witnesses. Right. I knew that "accept that I am baptized" was going to be more misleading bullshit from you.
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Post by progressiveelement on Aug 25, 2019 23:11:55 GMT
It has no meaning in my life.
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Post by goz on Aug 25, 2019 23:18:16 GMT
It has no meaning in my life. That wasn't actually the question.
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Post by progressiveelement on Aug 26, 2019 1:46:00 GMT
It has no meaning in my life. That wasn't actually the question. I forgot to add the voting 1 bit. 😇
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 11:35:37 GMT
I voted 5.
It's important in terms of the influence it has on society and public life. It's intellectually interesting to me.
Otherwise, not particularly.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Aug 26, 2019 11:52:59 GMT
I'm with Graham. In so far as I am interested in the history of ideas and philosophy, then religion is very significant. As moral inspiration and explanation for reality, far less.
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Post by Morgana on Aug 28, 2019 9:08:08 GMT
So how important is religion in your life? For me its 1 If by religion you mean God, then 10.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 28, 2019 10:49:05 GMT
I'm with Graham. In so far as I am interested in the history of ideas and philosophy, then religion is very significant. As moral inspiration and explanation for reality, far less. By reality, this poster means things that are made out of atoms.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 28, 2019 12:58:37 GMT
5/10. Yet so many people think I’m either too religious or somehow an atheist. To hell with them.
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