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Post by MrFurious on Aug 30, 2019 13:37:30 GMT
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 1, 2019 1:40:40 GMT
Well I know in terms of hardware SNES is superior as Genesis has weaker hardware. I know that does not guarantee SNES is a better system since it ultimately comes back to the games.
but in terms of controller layout... for games like Mortal Kombat 3 etc, the Genesis controller is superior due to the 6 button layout on the surface where as SNES your forced to use the trigger buttons since it's only got four buttons on the surface which is not as optimal. but speaking of Mortal Kombat 3 etc, you can see there is more system slowdown on Genesis which, from memory, was especially noticeable doing Kabal's groundsaw paired with his usual combo. but short of the controller being better on Genesis, the SNES version was all around better. but nowadays... I strictly stick to the MAME version which is the Arcade version which is the best version available.
still, I can't say I have a clear favorite between the two systems. but I want to say off the top of my head I got more use out of the Sega Genesis back in the day.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Sept 3, 2019 10:15:55 GMT
Sega Genesis
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Post by PreachCaleb on Sept 3, 2019 21:43:17 GMT
Well I know in terms of hardware SNES is superior as Genesis has weaker hardware. I know that does not guarantee SNES is a better system since it ultimately comes back to the games. but in terms of controller layout... for games like Mortal Kombat 3 etc, the Genesis controller is superior due to the 6 button layout on the surface where as SNES your forced to use the trigger buttons since it's only got four buttons on the surface which is not as optimal. but speaking of Mortal Kombat 3 etc, you can see there is more system slowdown on Genesis which, from memory, was especially noticeable doing Kabal's groundsaw paired with his usual combo. but short of the controller being better on Genesis, the SNES version was all around better. but nowadays... I strictly stick to the MAME version which is the Arcade version which is the best version available. still, I can't say I have a clear favorite between the two systems. but I want to say off the top of my head I got more use out of the Sega Genesis back in the day. I played better with the triggers than the six-button layout. I'd have to give the edge to the SNES just for the classic games I still replay and discover to this day.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Sept 4, 2019 1:51:04 GMT
SNES
Sim City DKC2 U.N. Squadron The Magical Quest Starring Mickey Mouse Mega Man X TMNT 4
Shinobi 3 best Sega Genesis game
SNES all around better
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Post by theshape25 on Sept 4, 2019 18:25:09 GMT
I was a big Genesis fanboy back in the day, so I have to with the Genesis, but I also owned a SNES and enjoyed it as well.
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 7, 2019 17:16:52 GMT
PreachCalebThat's odd because on games like Mortal Kombat 3 the six button layout on the surface more closely resembles the arcade button layout. it's just all around easier to use if you ask me. like the trigger button feels less natural then using your thumb to do all of the button combo's on the surface of the controller where as with the trigger you got to use your finger/thumb. I am not saying the trigger is horrible, but it's less optimal for a game like Mortal Kombat 3. p.s. but at this point in time I would not even bother playing games like Mortal Kombat 3 etc on Genesis/SNES since we have access to superior versions like the arcade version on the MAME emulator etc.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Sept 9, 2019 13:17:09 GMT
PreachCaleb That's odd because on games like Mortal Kombat 3 the six button layout on the surface more closely resembles the arcade button layout. it's just all around easier to use if you ask me. like the trigger button feels less natural then using your thumb to do all of the button combo's on the surface of the controller where as with the trigger you got to use your finger/thumb. I am not saying the trigger is horrible, but it's less optimal for a game like Mortal Kombat 3. p.s. but at this point in time I would not even bother playing games like Mortal Kombat 3 etc on Genesis/SNES since we have access to superior versions like the arcade version on the MAME emulator etc. I just found it easier since I already had a finger on the trigger, it saved me having to move my thumb over. Plus, I was never one for arcades.
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 15, 2019 3:30:48 GMT
PreachCalebBut the arcade versions of the games were definitely superior sound/graphics etc. it's the proper version of those games as the consoles were watered down, but since getting arcade level quality on consoles back in those days was pretty much not going to happen, we had to settle for the watered down versions in general at home. but I got solid nostalgia playing those games (MK2/MK3/UMK3) in the arcade with my cousin etc which was pretty much in the 1994-1996 time frame
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Post by Vodkie on Sept 16, 2019 14:40:44 GMT
SUPER NES for me
The only games I really cared about for the sega genesis were the sonic ones. The others I played on Genesis were mostly third party titles that had the same or similar releases on SNES
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Post by PreachCaleb on Sept 16, 2019 15:20:39 GMT
PreachCaleb But the arcade versions of the games were definitely superior sound/graphics etc. it's the proper version of those games as the consoles were watered down, but since getting arcade level quality on consoles back in those days was pretty much not going to happen, we had to settle for the watered down versions in general at home. but I got solid nostalgia playing those games (MK2/MK3/UMK3) in the arcade with my cousin etc which was pretty much in the 1994-1996 time frame Graphics were never a huge selling point for me. Even to this day. I just had way more fun playing games at home.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 16, 2019 15:39:48 GMT
bought a Genesis the first week it was out
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 18, 2019 22:12:29 GMT
PreachCalebEven gameplay is more polished in arcade version vs home versions of the day for Mortal Kombat 3 etc. but I would agree with you, at least on some level, that graphics alone can't make or break a game. but I do believe they can help ones overall experience of a game, at least looking at things from more of a movie level enjoyment perspective. but I do acknowledge that some games are quick pick-up-and-play types of games and then there are more of that type, which tend to have better graphics, that are more of a experience kind of thing.
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Post by jackspicer on Sept 19, 2019 0:13:10 GMT
When I was a child, Sega Genesis.
When I was a teenager, Super Nintendo.
Nowadays, still the Super Nintendo. I find myself emulating those games more often.
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 19, 2019 5:49:54 GMT
jackspicerI see your general point about how when growing up we tend to move to the next system thinking it's better and better but now all of these years have passed we look back on things and some systems don't really hold up that well were as some systems we might have considered worse in the past are now overall better. (NOTE: I think some of it is because in the old days some consoles I mostly liked because of Mortal Kombat 2/3 etc but now since we have access to arcade perfect versions (like through MAME emulator on PC or more proper arcade versions on the more semi-recent consoles), the consoles that used to be solid (say Genesis/SNES etc) mostly are forgettable for me now. like firing up the games on say Genesis/SNES would be playing a weaker version of the games but if I fired em up now it would be mostly a nostalgia thing.) like off the top of my head, especially in pre-3D era consoles (i.e. prior to PS1(1995)/N64(1996)) I would probably back the original NES at this point in time. or to look at the 3D-era consoles to date (i.e. PS1(1995)/N64(1996) on forward) I would probably go with N64 over most others on some level (especially considering anything from PS3/XBox360 or newer still feels fairly new and not old school enough yet). plus, one could basically say N64 was Nintendo's last major console (like one that competed as the Top 2 major players as after that things shifted to Microsoft vs Sony pretty much and Nintendo was more of the outlier and has basically stayed this way since) before it shifted to a different market/type of gamer. p.s. I know one could list the Sega Saturn (1994-1995) in there to for a legitimate earlier 3D console but that never really seemed to take off as the major players were just PS1/N64 for the early 3D era consoles (although consoles never really got more modern(modern as in more like today's) til I would say the PS2(2000)/XBox(2001) generation). I did have a Sega Saturn at one point though.
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Post by jackspicer on Sept 19, 2019 15:06:56 GMT
mslo79I was a mindless fanboy when I was a child. I considered anything that wasn't the Sega Genesis to be a cheap knockoff. I started emulating in my early teens, and realized that the other systems of the time (SNES especially) didn't suck as much as I thought they did. I then found myself playing on those more than the Genesis. No shade. I don't think everyone who likes the Genesis more is a fanboy, but I definitely was. At heart, I'm a PC gamer anyway.
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 20, 2019 6:47:25 GMT
jackspicerYeah, it seemed a fair amount of people did that with some systems. I generally considered myself more of a XBox person than Playstation in the long term even though I did use some Sony consoles back-in-the-day a little (I am pretty sure I had a PS1/PS2 at some point in the past. but once I got a XBox and moded it, that was pretty much the end of anything Sony for me as I used the XBox and moved onto the XBox360 eventually and that was pretty much the end of my console owning days as there are simply not enough more recent games to justify the $ of me getting a PS4 or XBox One and what little I do play I can do on the PC which is mostly replaying games from the past). but during the PS1 vs N64 era I was definitely more into the N64. but looking back on it... one game I played back in those days quite a bit was Mortal Kombat Trilogy and while I played it on N64, it was actually better on PS1. but at the time I just kind of wrote off the PS1. but even to this day I like N64 more than PS1 overall. during the Genesis vs SNES era... I know my cousin (who I was close to back in the day) was more into Genesis. I don't think I thought much either way even though I could tell the SNES was a bit more powerful hardware etc but I never really sided with Genesis or SNES. but I do remember having a Sega Nomad (it's basically a portable Sega Genesis) at one point but I did not hang onto it for long (like got money back) and I think I swapped it for a SNES if I recall correctly. Overall I tend to totally agree with you especially given I tend to mostly play shooter variations in general throughout the years of 3D games to date and in that regard I think the PC's mouse+keyboard blows away a controllers analog stick for aiming quickly at something (it takes much less time) as with a mouse I am as good as I can be where as with a analog stick on a typical shooter I am pretty much horrible as my skill level with that is not up to a satisfactory level to where I can enjoy the game. so in other words... on shooter games a analog stick handicaps me as I generally won't play shooters on consoles. in fact, the last shooter I played and really enjoyed on a console was the pre-modern times of GoldenEye on N64 (like 1997-1998 or so) which is pretty much before modern consoles became the standard which was pretty much the PS2(2000)/XBox(2001). but my all time favorite multiplayer shooter is definitely Counter-Strike on the PC as it's pretty safe to say I played that one the most long term as I played it pretty heavily from 2000 through about the mid-2000's or so. it came out in 1999 but I did not start playing in 2000 a bit before the official v1.0 release took place as I think it was Beta 7 (or 7.1) I was on which was just before the official release when I started playing it. but basically around 1999 or so I started becoming too used to a mouse for aiming at things (with the Quake games etc) and could not go back to a analog stick. so by the time PS2/XBox came along I did not care for those on any shooter based games.
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Post by MooseNugget on Sept 26, 2019 7:10:56 GMT
I never grew up with both consoles so there's no nostalgia factor for me there. I prefer playing SNES over the Genesis. I think the console had a better selection of games and the controller way far superior.
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