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Post by Marv on Sept 18, 2019 9:38:52 GMT
I really like the first 3 and Jason Lives. Jason X is also good fun. The rest don't interest me. You don’t like 4? It’s fine if you don’t its just unique to find someone who likes the first 3 but not part 4. Part 4 is commonly considered the best Friday, especially of those early ones where the formula didn’t include space or supernatural elements.
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Post by cryptoflovecraft on Sept 18, 2019 15:38:52 GMT
I really like the first 3 and Jason Lives. Jason X is also good fun. The rest don't interest me. You don’t like 4? It’s fine if you don’t its just unique to find someone who likes the first 3 but not part 4. Part 4 is commonly considered the best Friday, especially of those early ones where the formula didn’t include space or supernatural elements. For me, Part 4 does have supernatural elements. How did Jason manage to come back to life in the hospital morgue? He got an axe put through his head in Part 3 and was dead as a doornail at the end of that film. Part 4 is when the series jumped the shark imo. I still enjoyed the film, mind you. Corey Feldman, Crispin Glover, etc. were good but the whole premise was ruined for me with that film. Jason was no longer a believable villain.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Sept 19, 2019 3:25:47 GMT
I really like the first 3 and Jason Lives. Jason X is also good fun. The rest don't interest me. You don’t like 4? It’s fine if you don’t its just unique to find someone who likes the first 3 but not part 4. Part 4 is commonly considered the best Friday, especially of those early ones where the formula didn’t include space or supernatural elements. For me, I felt that the formula had grown stale by the time they reached Part 4. Zombie Jason was a welcome new approach from Part 6 onwards.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 19, 2019 21:52:15 GMT
Oh, I did also like Jason Takes Manhattan (Part 8), it's a fun horror-comedy that took the franchise in a whole new direction....if only they would have ended the series with that film. I like Jason Takes Manhattan just fine, but I don't really get what you're seeing that I'm not. Aside from Julius getting his block chopped off, I didn't really see an awful lot of humor to the film. Aside from location change(s), it kind of feels like a routine Friday flick to me.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 19, 2019 21:55:22 GMT
I spent the last week rewatching the first 8 films (via the Blu-ray set, which makes the fifth time I've re-bought these things) for the umpteenth time. I will always have a deep fondness for this franchise, it being one of my first loves (I saw The Final Chapter 25 years ago and the rest is history).
The franchise stayed pretty good and consistent until New Line got their hands on it, but even then, I really love Jason X wholeheartedly and have come around in recent years to Jason Goes to Hell. Freddy Vs. Jason was a blast to be a part of at the time (and it helps I also lost my virginity the same night I saw it in theaters) even if I can see it's warts a little too clearly. The remake gets way too much hate. I thought they struck just the right tone and was bummed we never got a follow up.
Still waiting for my Jason in the Snow flick. 🤞
Oh, and as I believe I mentioned before on this forum, I got my first blowjob during a viewing of Jason Lives, so I guess I will be a fan of this franchise for life. I half-expect to be watching one of these things on my deathbed.
*writes Friday the 13th into my Will after making this post*
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Post by cryptoflovecraft on Sept 19, 2019 23:06:21 GMT
Oh, I did also like Jason Takes Manhattan (Part 8), it's a fun horror-comedy that took the franchise in a whole new direction....if only they would have ended the series with that film. I like Jason Takes Manhattan just fine, but I don't really get what you're seeing that I'm not. Aside from Julius getting his block chopped off, I didn't really see an awful lot of humor to the film. Aside from location change(s), it kind of feels like a routine Friday flick to me. I got the impression that it was much more lighthearted than previous Friday films. Hence, more of a horror-comedy than a straight up horror film. There's the scene that you mentioned and then there's the scene were he's chasing the couple through the subway train and the other passengers hardly even notice the masked hulk rampaging past them (like it's just another day in 'crazy New York') and there's the scene where a gang of street toughs confront Jason and he takes his mask off and scares the shit outta them. Hell, just the idea of Jason wandering through crowded, glitzy Manhattan is absurd and comical in itself. The producers probably figured it was time for a change after the somewhat disappointing and formulaic Part 7.
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 20, 2019 6:41:56 GMT
I always hated part 5. Sure, it's wild and just entirely rest on the formula, but it's more stupid than fun and the whole conceit of the reveal at the end is too dumb for its own good, with none of the self awareness of part 6. I find 6 and 7 as watchable as any others. The characters in 7 outside of the main 3 from the beginning are just your typical 'disposable teens' and their dialogue is pretty terrible, but I think it has the best look in shooting style and the character design of Jason. I'm not a Kane Hodder faithful, but I like makeup/wardrobe of Jason here, as well as his demeanor. ...But I came to the series much later. It got started well before I was born and part 6 was the first one I saw, so maybe I always would have had a hard time taking them seriously, but I still enjoy them each to varying degrees. The first Friday I saw was Part 3 in 3D when first released. I wasn't old enough at the time to be admitted to the first 2 and I was just under the age limit permitted to view the 3rd one, but managed to get in. I loved it! I got to see the first Friday at a double feature on Sunday afternoon and while I quite liked the atmosphere of it, I was very disappointed about the lack of blood and gore. I wasn't aware at the time, that it was a heavily truncated version and didn't get to see the full uncut version until the mid 80's on vhs. Same with Part 2, which I thought was quite a nifty little presentation, but the tamest and lamest with the kills.
I quite liked The Final Chapter and thought it got better as it progressed and had enough graphic violence to satisfy. While I was annoyed with quick cut kills in Part 5 A New Beginning, I liked the high body count, the atmosphere and the tongue in cheek attitude and approach to some of the characterizations. I also feel it boasts one of the best Friday climaxes and I find this installment thoroughly entertaining. I also loved how Tommy the kid opened it up, which was only a nightmare for Tommy the disturbed adult. The psychotic kid camp setting was novel as well.
6 was a lot of fun too and had some great atmosphere and cinematography, the new Tommy was disconcerting to me at first, but Thom Matthews was a likeable actor and I also liked the repoire he had with his gf. It was my favorite for a while, but I think it fell even shorter than 5 in the kills department, with the obvious MPAA cuts. 7 left me angry, not with the execution, but with the tame approach to the kills which was the entire raison d'être for these films to exist. 8 and 9 are not worth mentioning. I do like Jason X though.
These films were butchered themselves and had they been allowed to be released as originally intended, I may have a different opinion on how I regard each one individually.
I love the first two, they had the best atmosphere, I felt, and I like the 3rd and the 4th ones. Though I don't like Chris from part 3. Part four has the most interesting cast. Ethel was my favorite part of five, and six I don't even remember. Was Dudley in part 6? Part 7 had the "Carrie" device, but whatever, the movie was pretty lame. I liked the girl okay and it did have an incredibly good-looking hero, Nick, who is gay IRL. Part 8 was just too dumb and uninvolving. So boring. Part 9 was mean-spirited and I never saw Jason X. Jason vs. Freedy was meh, like by that time I didn't really care anymore. Jason had long since become a joke.
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