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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 18:13:20 GMT
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Post by ryboto on Apr 14, 2017 18:54:04 GMT
I actually REALLY enjoyed the trailer for TFA. So unfortunate. Since I wont be watching the new one, can't judge. I'M SORRY.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 14, 2017 20:26:42 GMT
The Force Awakens' teaser seemed a little more staged and self-aware of how big that movie was. The Last Jedi's teaser seemed to be put together on the side while the movie finishes up, but I mean that in a good way. They seem to trust the audience to build their own anticipation instead of trying to do it themselves.
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Post by darkpast on Apr 14, 2017 22:41:11 GMT
Rogue One had the better teaser, but none of it was in the movie, lol
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 15, 2017 0:15:18 GMT
Rogue One had the better teaser, but none of it was in the movie, lol Ugh. I feel the opposite. That was the first Star Wars trailer that I honestly hated - especially that very terrible "I rebel!" line. The actual movie I enjoyed though.
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 15, 2017 0:16:32 GMT
I don't like this new, cynical Luke at all.
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Post by darkpast on Apr 15, 2017 2:14:48 GMT
Well its probably good that Star Wars fans have lowered their expectations quite a bit cause. It probably surprise them when it turns out to be a solid entry.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 15, 2017 9:17:02 GMT
TFA, insofar as it revealed less and wasn't clearly a total disaster until being released, whereas I could've lived the rest of my life without hearing Luke say the Jedi need to end or whatever -- not unlike the way I never needed to see Harrison Ford phone in a shitty death scene for Han Solo.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 15, 2017 12:54:37 GMT
I don't like this new, cynical Luke at all. He was the only reason I was considering gritting my teeth and sitting through it: Luke Skywalker is, more than any other fictional character, my childhood hero. Don't know if I can stomach the flick now, honestly.
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 15, 2017 13:44:30 GMT
I don't like this new, cynical Luke at all. He was the only reason I was considering gritting my teeth and sitting through it: Luke Skywalker is, more than any other fictional character, my childhood hero. Don't know if I can stomach the flick now, honestly. Yeah...I don't really like the new angle with Luke. Like you, Luke Skywalker is my favorite Star Wars character. I don't know if I want to watch him turn into a bitter old jerk. I hope he's only "testing" Rey in that scene (similar to how Yoda did with him in Episode 5) and he's not serious about how the Jedi need to end.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 15, 2017 17:37:18 GMT
He was the only reason I was considering gritting my teeth and sitting through it: Luke Skywalker is, more than any other fictional character, my childhood hero. Don't know if I can stomach the flick now, honestly. Yeah...I don't really like the new angle with Luke. Like you, Luke Skywalker is my favorite Star Wars character. I don't know if I want to watch him turn into a bitter old jerk. I hope he's only "testing" Rey in that scene (similar to how Yoda did with him in Episode 5) and he's not serious about how the Jedi need to end. Doubt it. I think he's going to be cynical and weary and (like you said) bitter and totally over the "light side/dark side" dichotomy, the fact that the more you train someone to use the Force the greater threat they could one day become by being tempted to the "other" side, and that REY -- of course -- is the first NEW, "balanced" Forced user and the real Chosen One. And so on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 17:56:26 GMT
Yeah...I don't really like the new angle with Luke. Like you, Luke Skywalker is my favorite Star Wars character. I don't know if I want to watch him turn into a bitter old jerk. I hope he's only "testing" Rey in that scene (similar to how Yoda did with him in Episode 5) and he's not serious about how the Jedi need to end. Doubt it. I think he's going to be cynical and weary and (like you said) bitter and totally over the "light side/dark side" dichotomy, the fact that the more you train someone to use the Force the greater threat they could one day become by being tempted to the "other" side, and that REY -- of course -- is the first NEW, "balanced" Forced user and the real Chosen One. And so on. Why does meesa get da feeling dat TLJ will be da next and maybe final step of turning da Force into Disney magic!?! Very soon there will be no following Light side OR Dark side. Very soon there will be no nature and limitations of da Force. Just a bunch of exclusive people runnin' around usin' instant wish-fulfillment powers! (Cue sigh and face plant)
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 15, 2017 18:06:24 GMT
Doubt it. I think he's going to be cynical and weary and (like you said) bitter and totally over the "light side/dark side" dichotomy, the fact that the more you train someone to use the Force the greater threat they could one day become by being tempted to the "other" side, and that REY -- of course -- is the first NEW, "balanced" Forced user and the real Chosen One. And so on. Why does meesa get da feeling dat TLJ will be da next and maybe final step of turning da Force into Disney magic!?! Very soon there will be no following Light side OR Dark side. Very soon there will be no nature and limitations of da Force. Just a bunch of exclusive people runnin' around usin' instant wish-fulfillment powers! (Cue sigh and face plant)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 18:15:44 GMT
Why does meesa get da feeling dat TLJ will be da next and maybe final step of turning da Force into Disney magic!?! Very soon there will be no following Light side OR Dark side. Very soon there will be no nature and limitations of da Force. Just a bunch of exclusive people runnin' around usin' instant wish-fulfillment powers! (Cue sigh and face plant) LOL! Yeps! Kinda like dat!
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 15, 2017 18:20:17 GMT
Yeah...I don't really like the new angle with Luke. Like you, Luke Skywalker is my favorite Star Wars character. I don't know if I want to watch him turn into a bitter old jerk. I hope he's only "testing" Rey in that scene (similar to how Yoda did with him in Episode 5) and he's not serious about how the Jedi need to end. Doubt it. I think he's going to be cynical and weary and (like you said) bitter and totally over the "light side/dark side" dichotomy, the fact that the more you train someone to use the Force the greater threat they could one day become by being tempted to the "other" side, and that REY -- of course -- is the first NEW, "balanced" Forced user and the real Chosen One. And so on. Where did you get the idea Rey is the real Chosen One? That was Anakin.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 15, 2017 19:17:00 GMT
Doubt it. I think he's going to be cynical and weary and (like you said) bitter and totally over the "light side/dark side" dichotomy, the fact that the more you train someone to use the Force the greater threat they could one day become by being tempted to the "other" side, and that REY -- of course -- is the first NEW, "balanced" Forced user and the real Chosen One. And so on. Where did you get the idea Rey is the real Chosen One? That was Anakin. Just a hunch. You could say I've felt a great disturbance in the Force.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Apr 15, 2017 19:47:59 GMT
Doubt it. I think he's going to be cynical and weary and (like you said) bitter and totally over the "light side/dark side" dichotomy, the fact that the more you train someone to use the Force the greater threat they could one day become by being tempted to the "other" side, and that REY -- of course -- is the first NEW, "balanced" Forced user and the real Chosen One. And so on. Where did you get the idea Rey is the real Chosen One? That was Anakin. Yes. For the longest Anakin has been the Chosen One. But in a recent episode of SW: Rebels entitled "Twin Suns", Luke Skywalker is clearly labeled as "the Chosen One"! (It doesn't address whether Anakin is still a "Chosen One" making 2 Chosen Ones or the mantle was passed to Luke... very vague, no clarification. But conversations clearly identify Luke Skywalker as "the Chosen One"). And now considering Rey's nature with the Force in TFA, a scapegoat way of explaining it away would be to label her as a "Chosen One"... I don't know if that's the direction they're going with her, but TFA already opened the door for that theory and possibility.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 16, 2017 0:15:28 GMT
Where did you get the idea Rey is the real Chosen One? That was Anakin. Yes. For the longest Anakin has been the Chosen One. But in a recent episode of SW: Rebels entitled "Twin Suns", Luke Skywalker is clearly labeled as "the Chosen One"! (It doesn't address whether Anakin is still a "Chosen One" making 2 Chosen Ones or the mantle was passed to Luke... very vague, no clarification. But conversations clearly identify Luke Skywalker as "the Chosen One"). And now considering Rey's nature with the Force in TFA, a scapegoat way of explaining it away would be to label her as a "Chosen One"... I don't know if that's the direction they're going with her, but TFA already opened the door for that theory and possibility. I fully believe Rey will be revealed to be one of the following: 1. The real Chosen One: Anakin was created by Plagueis/the Sith as a decoy to subvert/destroy the Jedi, and Rey is the real fulfillment of the prophesy (that, "Misread, could have been"). Yes, I realize this contradicts stuff from the Clone Wars. Don't think Disney cares. 2. Another Chosen One: Disney retcons the "Chosen One" concept more into sync with, like, the concept of the Slayer from Buffy -- there's "one in every generation," and while Anakin was the most recent incarnation of the CO, there've been countless Chosen Ones before him, and Rey is the current and most recent one. I mean, One. 3. A Different Chosen One: Anakin remains the Chosen One referred to in the prophesy discussed in the prequel films, but TLJ and/or Episode IX reveal that Rey is the reincarnation and/or embodiment of some force (or, literally, Force) more significant than Anakin ever was and destined to either bring the Force to a completely higher and more transcendent level of "balance" henceforth -- again, more or less rendering the story of the Lucas Six an interesting, if unnecessary, prologue to the Disney series of films. Based on the teaser, I think number three seems the most likely, followed by the first, and then the second.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Apr 16, 2017 0:42:24 GMT
Yes. For the longest Anakin has been the Chosen One. But in a recent episode of SW: Rebels entitled "Twin Suns", Luke Skywalker is clearly labeled as "the Chosen One"! (It doesn't address whether Anakin is still a "Chosen One" making 2 Chosen Ones or the mantle was passed to Luke... very vague, no clarification. But conversations clearly identify Luke Skywalker as "the Chosen One"). And now considering Rey's nature with the Force in TFA, a scapegoat way of explaining it away would be to label her as a "Chosen One"... I don't know if that's the direction they're going with her, but TFA already opened the door for that theory and possibility. I fully believe Rey will be revealed to be one of the following: 1. The real Chosen One: Anakin was created by Plagueis/the Sith as a decoy to subvert/destroy the Jedi, and Rey is the real fulfillment of the prophesy (that, "Misread, could have been"). Yes, I realize this contradicts stuff from the Clone Wars. Don't think Disney cares. 2. Another Chosen One: Disney retcons the "Chosen One" concept more into sync with, like, the concept of the Slayer from Buffy -- there's "one in every generation," and while Anakin was the most recent incarnation of the CO, there've been countless Chosen Ones before him, and Rey is the current and most recent one. I mean, One. 3. A Different Chosen One: Anakin remains the Chosen One referred to in the prophesy discussed in the prequel films, but TLJ and/or Episode IX reveal that Rey is the reincarnation and/or embodiment of some force (or, literally, Force) more significant than Anakin ever was and destined to either bring the Force to a completely higher and more transcendent level of "balance" henceforth -- again, more or less rendering the story of the Lucas Six an interesting, if unnecessary, prologue to the Disney series of films. Based on the teaser, I think number three seems the most likely, followed by the first, and then the second. I like all your theories. I agree.
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 16, 2017 1:07:37 GMT
Where did you get the idea Rey is the real Chosen One? That was Anakin. Yes. For the longest Anakin has been the Chosen One. But in a recent episode of SW: Rebels entitled "Twin Suns", Luke Skywalker is clearly labeled as "the Chosen One"! (It doesn't address whether Anakin is still a "Chosen One" making 2 Chosen Ones or the mantle was passed to Luke... very vague, no clarification. But conversations clearly identify Luke Skywalker as "the Chosen One"). And now considering Rey's nature with the Force in TFA, a scapegoat way of explaining it away would be to label her as a "Chosen One"... I don't know if that's the direction they're going with her, but TFA already opened the door for that theory and possibility. That is very disappointing to hear...er...read. I've only watched the first few episodes of that series and stopped watching it. Now I'm glad I did due the inconsistencies/contradictions with the actual Star Wars movies. i.e. I heard Darth Maul was still alive in it.
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