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Post by damngumby on Sept 12, 2019 21:09:32 GMT
77% ... ouch!
How low can it go before it can no longer be considered a Best Picture contender?
I sure hope everyone learned a lesson from the embarrassing Wonder Woman debacle and avoids any premature speculation about Joker being Oscar worthy. Things are looking a bit grim at the moment.
The one, and only, superhero movie to have been nominated for Best Picture is also the #1 rated superhero movie on Rotten Tomatoes. That's the bar that has been set. It doesn't look like Joker will be up to it.
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Post by cricket on Sept 12, 2019 21:22:40 GMT
Really, Black Panther had 0, zero, nil, rotten reviews by TOP CRITICS. Endgame has only 4 Rotten reviews by Top Critics. Joker already has 10 rotten reviews by Top Critics. Yes, it is already on double digits. Incredible for a movie that two months before release had so much Oscar buzz. So, the ball is at the Academy field.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 12, 2019 22:41:38 GMT
And I hope we all learned a thing from Suicide Squad that RT scores don't determine Oscar nominations. Or Oscar wins.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 12, 2019 22:57:16 GMT
Have you bothered actually reading the reviews? Because several of them donāt really even criticize the quality of the film, but rather what they believe it stands for.
By the way, didnāt you claim that Bumblebee would be something that Aquaman would have to worry about?
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Post by darkpast on Sept 12, 2019 23:57:12 GMT
No one cares about woke critics calling the movie dangerous
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Post by damngumby on Sept 13, 2019 0:06:28 GMT
No one cares about woke critics calling the movie dangerous "Woke" critics. "Woke" academy voters. Do I need to spell it out?
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Post by sdrew13163 on Sept 13, 2019 0:14:37 GMT
Have you bothered actually reading the reviews? Because several of them donāt really even criticize the quality of the film, but rather what they believe it stands for.Ā As I write this, there are 21 Rotten reviews. Just about every single one mentions that they think itās bad for our culture and are afraid it might radicalize people. More social/political commentary than actual film reviews. Iām not saying itās going to be good, but it annoys me to no end to see them wag their fingers at DC and WB for having the āaudacityā to make such a movie and be so āinsensitive.ā |
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Post by darkpast on Sept 13, 2019 0:30:08 GMT
No one cares about woke critics calling the movie dangerous "Woke" critics. "Woke" academy voters. Do I need to spell it out? tell it to Green Book |
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Post by Prime etc. on Sept 13, 2019 1:03:05 GMT
A woke Joker movie.
Joker the Woker.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Sept 13, 2019 1:46:30 GMT
Really, Black Panther had 0, zero, nil, rotten reviews by TOP CRITICS. Endgame has only 4 Rotten reviews by Top Critics. Joker already has 10 rotten reviews by Top Critics. Yes, it is already on double digits. Incredible for a movie that two months before release had so much Oscar buzz. So, the ball is at the Academy field. And yet Joker will still be viewed as the better movie, probably because it is. The RT score might even support that.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Sept 13, 2019 2:02:05 GMT
As I write this, there are 21 Rotten reviews. Just about every single one mentions that they think itās bad for our culture and are afraid it might radicalize people. More social/political commentary than actual film reviews. Iām not saying itās going to be good, but it annoys me to no end to see them wag their fingers at DC and WB for having the āaudacityā to make such a movie and be so āinsensitive.ā Have you seen the movie?Ā No. I donāt have to have seen it to read the critics talking of nothing but how offensive it is instead of cinematography, plot, pacing, writing, acting, etc. Like I said, it might suck anyway. But they clearly are more concerned that it might have some kind of ripple effect that in no way could be blamed on a movie anyway. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Sept 13, 2019 2:14:53 GMT
No. I donāt have to have seen it to read the critics talking of nothing but how offensive it is instead of cinematography, plot, pacing, writing, acting, etc. Like I said, it might suck anyway. But they clearly are more concerned that it might have some kind of ripple effect that in no way could be blamed on a movie anyway. However, the majority, apparently, 77%, disagree. And I, for one, donāt obligate anyone dare have differing POV than me...but that doesnāt mean I canāt also counter their argument. See Joker for the art alone. I know Iām psyched.Ā Iām not saying that they canāt dislike it. Iām sure it has its own set of problems as any movie does. I just donāt consider the argument, āIt might make some crazy person do something bad in the future, so therefore itās not a good movieā to be a valid criticism of the movie itself. There are some genuine movie reviews that cite problems with the dialogue and story and other actual film issues. Those are real reviews, not social opinion pieces, and theyāre just as valued as a positive review. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Sept 13, 2019 3:51:51 GMT
Iām not saying that they canāt dislike it. Iām sure it has its own set of problems as any movie does. I just donāt consider the argument, āIt might make some crazy person do something bad in the future, so therefore itās not a good movieā to be a valid criticism of the movie itself. There are some genuine movie reviews that cite problems with the dialogue and story and other actual film issues. Those are real reviews, not social opinion pieces, and theyāre just as valued as a positive review. ā It might make some crazy person do something bad in the future, so therefore itās not a good movieāThis is is a valid point, however still majority opinion is positive. And within the minority that is slamming it as such, are the negative reviews that slam it for failures in filmmaking. So the 23% is not solely representative of SJW reviews.Ā My point is donāt let their opinion matter to you. Ā Well I agree with the last part. |
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Post by syafiqjabar on Sept 13, 2019 13:13:13 GMT
At this point, I'm willing to believe all these negative reviews talking about how Joker might harm society and inspire criminals and terrorists are paid marketing by WB meant to hype up the movie. Remember when they pay people to talk about Jared Leto leaving used condoms on the set of Suicide Squad and probably have Leto money to buy a rat to gift to his costars?
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 13, 2019 13:29:49 GMT
No one cares about woke critics calling the movie dangerous The Academy is never politically correct though. 
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 13, 2019 13:32:17 GMT
I can't believe the reviews are so low for a movie being talked about sooooo much.I'm shocked. That's extremely low for the way people are talking about this movie.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 13:38:37 GMT
One thing about Joker is that it is tugging at an anxiety that our collective is feeling right now, and that's pretty true to who the Joker is as a character.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 13, 2019 17:48:25 GMT
Really, Black Panther had 0, zero, nil, rotten reviews by TOP CRITICS. Endgame has only 4 Rotten reviews by Top Critics. Joker already has 10 rotten reviews by Top Critics. Yes, it is already on double digits. Incredible for a movie that two months before release had so much Oscar buzz. So, the ball is at the Academy field. And yet Joker will still be viewed as the better movie, probably because it is. The RT score might even support that. Itās not, actually. āJokerā currently has 7.62/10 average on RottenTomatoes while āBlack Pantherā has 8.27/10 and āAvengers: Endgameā has 8.3/10. |
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Post by President Ackbarā¢ on Sept 13, 2019 17:58:44 GMT
CRASH (2004) won Best Picture with a 74% RT
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Sept 13, 2019 18:00:17 GMT
Who gives a shit? Iām sure it will still be better than half of the MCU movies and I say that as a MCU fan.
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