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Post by darkpast on Sept 21, 2019 5:28:40 GMT
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Post by ck100 on Sept 21, 2019 5:49:20 GMT
Is it any good? Depends on what you personally think of it.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 21, 2019 10:57:54 GMT
I cannot see it being worse than The Predator.
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 21, 2019 13:53:03 GMT
I'm hearing it's another horror movie, like the last one. Not sure why Stallone did that again. Rambo was never horror. First three had action and violence, but weren't revenge horror movies.
As far as the MAGA crap goes, I'm assuming the movie is about cartels? Mexico has cartels. Some Mexicans are in them. That's not racist, it's a fact. You can't cry every time a bad guy in a movie isn't white.
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Post by chalk3 on Sept 22, 2019 19:42:57 GMT
I would give it a 6.5/10.
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Post by Lux on Sept 22, 2019 21:08:24 GMT
The Rambo writer is a moron. Did he just wake up to the realisation that yep, the Rambo franchise is a tad ridiculous which is why it's liked. Seems everyone but him was in the know this whole time.
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Post by spooner5020 on Sept 23, 2019 14:25:58 GMT
I’m gonna take it that the reviewers have never once seen a Rambo movie?
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Post by Jan El Señor on Sept 24, 2019 0:45:45 GMT
The "MAGA fantasy" claims are absurd.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Sept 24, 2019 0:46:36 GMT
I'm hearing it's another horror movie, like the last one. Not sure why Stallone did that again. Rambo was never horror. First three had action and violence, but weren't revenge horror movies. As far as the MAGA crap goes, I'm assuming the movie is about cartels? Mexico has cartels. Some Mexicans are in them. That's not racist, it's a fact. You can't cry every time a bad guy in a movie isn't white. This one is closer in tone to parts II and III, if that's what you liked.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 24, 2019 23:00:43 GMT
I'm hearing it's another horror movie, like the last one. Not sure why Stallone did that again. Rambo was never horror. First three had action and violence, but weren't revenge horror movies. As far as the MAGA crap goes, I'm assuming the movie is about cartels? Mexico has cartels. Some Mexicans are in them. That's not racist, it's a fact. You can't cry every time a bad guy in a movie isn't white. In fairness, I haven't seen the movie, but from the reviews I've heard/read, the problem is that other than the main female lead and another woman who is her aunt (?), all the Hispanic characters are one-dimensional villains. I was just listening to a debate on a podcast where someone thought the reviewer was being too tough on the movie, but he asked a simple question (i.e. can you name one Mexican man in the movie who isn't a bad guy?), and the person couldn't do it. This in and of itself could be seen as problematic, but given the climate, in which we literally have a president who has made villainizing an entire ethnicity a campaign strategy, and some of whose supporters have then taken this to be a license to harass and even murder people of that ethnicity, it's even more so. Plus, from the reviews I've read (including the positive ones, which are quick to pull the "You just have to accept it for what it is" card, which seems to always be laid down for crappy movies), it's just a bad movie in general.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 10:42:14 GMT
This movie had a 28% rotten tomato score and an 84% audience score and has thus piqued my interest, trumplike or not.
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Post by Prime etc. on Sept 25, 2019 23:16:33 GMT
The "MAGA fantasy" claims are absurd. Well Rambo is of German-Indian descent so he is like a founding fathers mixed race super soldier pizzazz master!
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Sept 26, 2019 11:06:04 GMT
I'm hearing it's another horror movie, like the last one. Not sure why Stallone did that again. Rambo was never horror. First three had action and violence, but weren't revenge horror movies. As far as the MAGA crap goes, I'm assuming the movie is about cartels? Mexico has cartels. Some Mexicans are in them. That's not racist, it's a fact. You can't cry every time a bad guy in a movie isn't white. I viewed Rambo: Last Blood the other night (in XD, no less). It certainly is not a "horror movie" (I have not seen the previous Rambo film), although there are some horrific aspects, if you catch my drift. But there are no supernatural or otherworldly elements, just plenty of grisliness, violence, and bloodshed. I deem Rambo: Last Blood "mediocre." For the first half or so, the film actually proves surprisingly engrossing. There is a reasonable focus on character and relationships, and matters do not go as one might expect. Stallone's Rambo is still extremely tough and competent, of course, but he cannot kill everyone or always prove the hero. And in the best performance of the film, Paz Vega plays a watchful Mexican journalist—empathetic, unsentimental, and realistic—struggling to chronicle the murder and heinousness of the Mexican gangs. And curiously, early on, Rambo laments that no one had dissuaded him from enlisting and serving in Vietnam. But over its second half, the film slinks into predictability and excess. Whereas early on it had at least made some tokenistic efforts to reflect Rambo's age and vulnerability, the movie shrugs off such concerns later. The reliance on special effects is immense—view the closing credits if you have any doubts—and the vengeance lacks the emotional weight that the film ostensibly and explicitly seeks. The whole movie suffers from over-editing, and its climactic confrontations feature way too many closeups—and borderline extreme closeups at that. And make no mistake, these closeups are not artful, stylized, or dynamic in the manner of Sergio Leone or Quentin Tarantino. With longer shots and more in the way of composition, the climax could have become more suspenseful while also furthering character, especially given the potential for nuance that comes with Rambo's age. And, to be sure, the movie ends with him in a rocking chair and on a porch, but the gesture is never more than tokenistic, especially given that he has just been shot twice and apparently did not need to receive medical attention. There are some nice shots at and around his Arizona ranch, but even then, the digital cameras fail to provide optimal crispness. As for the concern that the film panders to Trump's more xenophobic supporters, that criticism is rather unwarranted. To another poster's point, yes, almost all of the Mexican males constitute typical malicious villains and henchmen. (The one exception would be the husband or boyfriend of the female journalist, but his role is extremely minimal. Plus, based just on this film, one wonders sometimes whether Rambo might be of Mexican ethnicity himself.) But when understanding the limited, unambitious scope of this action movie, one would be hard-pressed to prove too critical or to differentiate this film from dozens of others. Trump's problem is that, as a presidential candidate and then a president, he reduced a broad, complex issue to a stereotype, one that misrepresents millions and millions of people. To hold these filmmakers to a similar standard of responsibility is rather obtuse, especially when their trivial action movie does not even involve immigration. After all, the Mexican villains only cross the border because Rambo lures them. Would I recommend Rambo: Last Blood? No, not really. It is not terrible—again, the first half proves quite engrossing and intriguing—but there is ultimately little value here. Stallone has probably improved as an actor over the years, and his acting here is solid, convincing, and fairly smart. Unfortunately, the script and direction finally reduce him to the Rambo self-caricature of the eighties, even though Stallone possessed the potential to offer more over this film's second half. The main motivation to see it might be to comprehend part of the reason why his career turned out so differently from, say, Clint Eastwood's. (Granted, the total number of reasons would be too numerous to even discuss.) Also, a great Doors song from 1968 receives significant airplay during the film—and within the diegesis (the movie's narrative), no less. But if those aspects do not compel you, then I doubt that anything else in the movie would, unless you are a Stallone or Rambo aficionado.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 12:18:38 GMT
I was actually pleasantly surprised by this movie. It had a way of reminding me of the old glory days of this charismatic character, displaying the heart of Rambo once again, the unsung hero, misunderstood and relentless.
What I'm most displeased with is how the majority of the critics couldn't resist reducing it to a MAGA related story. Cant they see past their own myopic views for a couple hours? Is it really in their brains that much that they had to read current events into this? For me it was a stretch and I would not have thought if this if I wasnt reminded.
The use of of music was a little excessive and a little less may have allowed for a deeper impact.
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 26, 2019 13:15:02 GMT
I'm hearing it's another horror movie, like the last one. Not sure why Stallone did that again. Rambo was never horror. First three had action and violence, but weren't revenge horror movies. As far as the MAGA crap goes, I'm assuming the movie is about cartels? Mexico has cartels. Some Mexicans are in them. That's not racist, it's a fact. You can't cry every time a bad guy in a movie isn't white. In fairness, I haven't seen the movie, but from the reviews I've heard/read, the problem is that other than the main female lead and another woman who is her aunt (?), all the Hispanic characters are one-dimensional villains. I was just listening to a debate on a podcast where someone thought the reviewer was being too tough on the movie, but he asked a simple question (i.e. can you name one Mexican man in the movie who isn't a bad guy?), and the person couldn't do it. This in and of itself could be seen as problematic, but given the climate, in which we literally have a president who has made villainizing an entire ethnicity a campaign strategy, and some of whose supporters have then taken this to be a license to harass and even murder people of that ethnicity, it's even more so. Plus, from the reviews I've read (including the positive ones, which are quick to pull the "You just have to accept it for what it is" card, which seems to always be laid down for crappy movies), it's just a bad movie in general. So what? Besides the fact, YES FACT, you just pointed out there's two "good" Mexicans in the movie, it doesn't matter if every single Mexican in the movie was a villain. It's not against the law or even a "bad" choice. You're allowed to do that. For fuck's sake, it's about a cartel. Of course the Mexicans they show are going to be bad - they are DRUG DEALERS. Minorities and foreigners are allowed to be villains in movies, particularly if the circumstances warrant it. Every single Russian in Rambo 3 was a villain. No one gave a shit. Every single Vietnamese person in Rambo 2, aside from the woman, was a villain. You mean to tell me that movie NEEDED the good Vietnamese woman in order for it to be fair or to clarify everyone involved isn't racist? Fuck that shit. Nobody cared back then, because people had sense. Now everyone is a pussy.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Sept 26, 2019 13:25:55 GMT
As for the concern that the film panders to Trump's more xenophobic supporters, that criticism is rather unwarranted. To another poster's point, yes, almost all of the Mexican males constitute typical malicious villains and henchmen. (The one exception would be the husband or boyfriend of the female journalist, but his role is extremely minimal. Plus, based just on this film, one wonders sometimes whether Rambo might be of Mexican ethnicity himself.) But when understanding the limited, unambitious scope of this action movie, one would be hard-pressed to be too critical or to differentiate this film from dozens of others. Trump's problem is that, as a presidential candidate and then a president, he reduced a broad, complex issue to a stereotype, one that misrepresents millions and millions of people. To hold these filmmakers to a similar standard of responsibility is rather obtuse, especially when their trivial action movie does not even involve immigration. After all, the Mexican villains only cross the border because Rambo lures them. Quoted for truth.
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 26, 2019 13:37:17 GMT
I was actually pleasantly surprised by this movie. It had a way of reminding me of the old glory days of this charismatic character, displaying the heart of Rambo once again, the unsung hero, misunderstood and relentless. What I'm most displeased with is how the majority of the critics couldn't resist reducing it to a MAGA related story. Cant they see past their own myopic views for a couple hours? Is it really in their brains that much that they had to read current events into this? For me it was a stretch and I would not have thought if this if I wasnt reminded. The use of of music was a little excessive and a little less may have allowed for a deeper impact. No. Everything is political now. Everyone's beliefs have to be included in everything. Oeople have lost their fucking minds.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 16:04:18 GMT
I'm hearing it's another horror movie, like the last one. Not sure why Stallone did that again. Rambo was never horror. First three had action and violence, but weren't revenge horror movies. As far as the MAGA crap goes, I'm assuming the movie is about cartels? Mexico has cartels. Some Mexicans are in them. That's not racist, it's a fact. You can't cry every time a bad guy in a movie isn't white. In fairness, I haven't seen the movie, but from the reviews I've heard/read, the problem is that other than the main female lead and another woman who is her aunt (?), all the Hispanic characters are one-dimensional villains. I was just listening to a debate on a podcast where someone thought the reviewer was being too tough on the movie, but he asked a simple question (i.e. can you name one Mexican man in the movie who isn't a bad guy?), and the person couldn't do it. This in and of itself could be seen as problematic, but given the climate, in which we literally have a president who has made villainizing an entire ethnicity a campaign strategy, and some of whose supporters have then taken this to be a license to harass and even murder people of that ethnicity, it's even more so. Plus, from the reviews I've read (including the positive ones, which are quick to pull the "You just have to accept it for what it is" card, which seems to always be laid down for crappy movies), it's just a bad movie in general. that's just it though. Trump never meant to villainize an entire ethnicity. he had a poor choice of words, and many read into that, "trump is saying all mexicans are rapists". I almost begin to wonder if their jumping to this conclusion really reflects an insecurity within themselves and their own subconscious views towards Mexican; not saying they believe that, but moreso that they are sensitive to or fear the labelling thereof. Trump doesn't think twice about it. and now, it's just assumed that he's a racist by most of the liberal media and probably many democratic party supporters. and further, it's now being extended to movies like this, perhaps because Stallone at one point spoke supportively of Trump (from my recollection), and they all remembered that.
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Post by amyghost on Sept 26, 2019 17:00:48 GMT
Give Trump a crossbow, and you've got a 'separated at birth' contender...just sayin'...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 14:41:28 GMT
Give Trump a crossbow, and you've got a 'separated at birth' contender...just sayin'... hes a real american hero.
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