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Post by popactor1 on Sept 21, 2019 23:49:19 GMT
If hadn't been for Sly creativity and thinking of adding Mr. T and Hulk Hogan in Rocky III. The're would never have been a Wrestle Mania.
Also, how many times did the WWF used the Eye of the tiger song in their event. Again Sly thinking of adding that soundtrack
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Post by petrolino on Sept 22, 2019 0:24:29 GMT
Dude's a legend.
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Post by popactor1 on Sept 22, 2019 0:45:14 GMT
Do you think wrestling would have taken off if hadn't been for Rocky III
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Post by ck100 on Sept 22, 2019 0:54:17 GMT
Don't you think wrestling would have already had to have been popular on its own for even Stallone to consider using Hulk Hogan for Rocky III?
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Post by popactor1 on Sept 22, 2019 1:54:08 GMT
I'm sure WrestleMania would not have been successful without the 2 Rocky icons. This is where wrestling became mainstream & bigger when WrestleMania started.
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Post by petrolino on Sept 22, 2019 2:35:08 GMT
I'm sure WrestleMania would not have been successful without the 2 Rocky icons. This is where wrestling became mainstream & bigger when WrestleMania started. Vince got down on both knees to convince Sly. That never happened outside the wrestling ring, but this time it did. Make of that what you will.
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Post by popactor1 on Sept 22, 2019 4:10:22 GMT
He didn't even do that for Trump
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Post by dazz on Sept 22, 2019 17:46:46 GMT
Because it had nothing to do with it, Hogan getting cast in Rocky 3 cost him his job with the WWF at the time when Vince Sr was running things and he was against Hulk going, this led Hulk to going to AWA where he created the Hulkamania idea and became a top star for Verne whilst also becoming a big star in Japan, it wasn't until 1984, techinically the last week of 83 but really 84 when Hulk rejoined the WWF, and it wasn't to do with Rocky but everything else, T was a huge star on the A-Team at the time and all the Rock n Wrestling tie in stuff they did with other celebs.
Without Rocky 3 maybe Hulk never would have become the star he did but theres no way of knowing that same as no way of knowing that Vince couldn't have plugged in another Hogan type into that position and followed the same game plan and achieved the same goals.
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Post by johnspartan on Sept 22, 2019 23:11:19 GMT
I'm sure WrestleMania would not have been successful without the 2 Rocky icons. This is where wrestling became mainstream & bigger when WrestleMania started. True, also Cindy Lauper and MTV for the Rock and Wrestling connection were the second major factor after Rocky III.
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Post by Jayman on Oct 10, 2019 17:03:26 GMT
I think it helped the wwf but in my opinion I don’t feel it helped wrestling overall since wrestling was already huge for a long time at that point. Plus as the wwf grew, the rest of the industry started to shrink. We can argue about other things factoring in to that, but I’m just stating what was happening at that time
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Post by njcardfan on Oct 28, 2019 11:25:18 GMT
Do you think wrestling would have taken off if hadn't been for Rocky III Yes. McMahon would have either gotten Hogan back anyway or if Hogan never did Rocky III, he probably would have never left and the main event of WM1 would have been something else like just Hogan vs Piper or Orndorff. McMahon was a visionary and he would have made it work. Now, what almost killed his brand was his lack of wanting to evolve. Here's an idea for you. Had the nWo never been formed and formed using talent that just left the WWF, the Attitude Era might never have happened, at least not the way it did. Once the nWo came to be, WCW was crushing the WWF in the ratings but then 3 things happened. #1, WCW simply beat the nWo to death which made it stale. #2, Bischoff allowed Hogan, Nash, & Hall to have too much control which led to great talent like Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero, and other young guys to be held back which led to their eventual shift to the WWF. And #3, the Montreal Screwjob. Had that not happened, the greatest feud of all time never would have been (Austin vs McMahon). I believe Austin would have still been put on top but his championship run would have been very different.
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Post by njcardfan on Oct 28, 2019 11:27:47 GMT
Because it had nothing to do with it, Hogan getting cast in Rocky 3 cost him his job with the WWF at the time when Vince Sr was running things and he was against Hulk going, this led Hulk to going to AWA where he created the Hulkamania idea and became a top star for Verne whilst also becoming a big star in Japan, it wasn't until 1984, techinically the last week of 83 but really 84 when Hulk rejoined the WWF, and it wasn't to do with Rocky but everything else, T was a huge star on the A-Team at the time and all the Rock n Wrestling tie in stuff they did with other celebs. Without Rocky 3 maybe Hulk never would have become the star he did but theres no way of knowing that same as no way of knowing that Vince couldn't have plugged in another Hogan type into that position and followed the same game plan and achieved the same goals. Here's a question for you. What if Gagne allowed Hogan a real title run in the AWA? Would he have gone to the WWF when he did? Because Gagne never wanted Hogan to have the belt hence the 'Dusty' finishes in his matches with Bockwinkle.
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Post by dazz on Oct 28, 2019 20:51:32 GMT
Because it had nothing to do with it, Hogan getting cast in Rocky 3 cost him his job with the WWF at the time when Vince Sr was running things and he was against Hulk going, this led Hulk to going to AWA where he created the Hulkamania idea and became a top star for Verne whilst also becoming a big star in Japan, it wasn't until 1984, techinically the last week of 83 but really 84 when Hulk rejoined the WWF, and it wasn't to do with Rocky but everything else, T was a huge star on the A-Team at the time and all the Rock n Wrestling tie in stuff they did with other celebs. Without Rocky 3 maybe Hulk never would have become the star he did but theres no way of knowing that same as no way of knowing that Vince couldn't have plugged in another Hogan type into that position and followed the same game plan and achieved the same goals. Here's a question for you. What if Gagne allowed Hogan a real title run in the AWA? Would he have gone to the WWF when he did? Because Gagne never wanted Hogan to have the belt hence the 'Dusty' finishes in his matches with Bockwinkle. Depends on if the idea Gagne wanted a cut of Hogan's New Japan money is true, if it is then the title run wouldn't have made a difference imo, if that's not legit then I dunno, maybe, I think Hogan would have likely seen that Verne was doing stuff to appease him whilst Vince was actually invested in Hogan, Gagne put Hogan on top because Hogan got over, where as Vince also liked Hulk as an act, so Hogan would have probably seen that an known Vince is the guy who was really going to back him, at worse I can see Hogan getting a title run out of the AWA then jumping to Vince within a year in time for Wrestlemania 1 and all of that stuff.
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