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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 4, 2019 7:23:27 GMT
Bucky was tortured, conditioned and mind controlled for 70 years, broken down to he was barely more than a bio-mechanical weapon Clearly because it cannot be that everyone but you is smart enough to take things like extenuating circumstances into account, such as Bucky Barnes the man made the choice to serve his country, to fight alongside his best friend in taking down the most dangerous and important Hydra bases during the height of WW2 when Hydra had exponentially more advanced weapons and equipment, and who went head first into the lions den to prevent an army of super soldiers being unleashed into the world, fought for humanity against a horde of alien invaders TWICE, and that it was Winter Soldier the brainwashed and programmed super weapon/assassin that had no control or agency over his actions because every time he showed any sort of personality Hydra wiped his memories over and over again that committed such an act as you describe. Clearly, you still don't get the point. Like I've said many, many times before (and which you and many MCU fans still don't seem to be able to understand), Bucky can argue his "brainwashed" defense in front of a jury of the people but it should be a jury and not Bucky's best friend Steve Rogers who decides if "brainwashing" is a mitigating factor in absolving Bucky of guilt for choking an injured and defenseless woman to death. Since you and so many MCU fans still don't seem to be able to understand, I'll try to make it really simple for you. In 1978, San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk were assassinated by Dan White. White's lawyers used the famous "Twinkee" defense - White ate a lot of Twinkees and the high amounts of sugar caused White to go temporarily insane. So according to you and many other MCU fans, because White's lawyers claimed that White's actions were due to something beyond his control, then we should just accept his word for it and White should automatically be declared not guilty and not have to face a jury. Fortunately, that's not how the justice system works. White's lawyers were free to make that claim, but that still doesn't automatically absolve White of his actions. White's lawyers still had to argue that claim in front of a jury and it was still a jury, not White's lawyers or White's family or White's best friend, that decided how much of a mitigating factor that was in White's actions. Likewise, like I said many, many times before, just because Bucky claims he was brainwashed, that doesn't automatically absolve him of his actions. An innocent, injured, and defenseless woman was choked to death by Bucky's own hands (a fact that many MCU fans seem to ignore). It should be a jury, not Bucky's best friend Steve Rogers, who decides if Bucky is guilty and if "brainwashing" was a mitigating factor. In Young Justice season 2, the Justice League was charged with attacking the planet Rimbor. But the Justice League didn't refuse to turn themselves in to Rimbor's authorities. The Justice League voluntarily surrendered themselves to the custody of Rimbor's authorities and were willing to face a tribunal for those charges. It was proven that the Justice League was framed and the tribunal dropped all charges against the Justice League. But it was the tribunal, not the Justice League, that decided that the Justice League was not guilty. In White's case, in the end, the jury decided that the famous "Twinkee" defense was a mitigating factor and White was found guilty, not of murder but of the lesser charge of manslaughter. And a jury may well have decided that "brainwashing" was a mitigating factor in Bucky's case. And that would've been OK because it would be a jury of the people who decided that.
But what's not OK is Steve Rogers becoming a tyrant and refusing to even give the people the chance to decide if Bucky should be absolved for the killing of an innocent, injured, and defenseless woman due to mitigating factors. Steve Rogers basically said "I don't believe in the justice system and I don't believe in the American people to do the right thing and I certainly don't give a shit that Bucky choked to death an innocent, injured, and defenseless woman. I'm Captain America and I'm more powerful than the people so that gives me the right to unilaterally decide guilt or innocence, exactly the same way that tyrants throughout history have done."Superman actively made that choice himself, of his own free will and sound mind to kill Zod, and only after allowing god knows how many people to die as collateral in his fight, and after he took part in the plan to commit genocide against the last remnants of the Kryptonian race, unlike Bucky who wasn't even Bucky when the Starks were murdered, understand the difference yet numbnuts? After breaking free from HYDRA, Bucky never made the choice to voluntarily turn himself in for choking an innocent, injured, and defenseless woman to death. Bucky did have a choice. He just chose to not own up to what he did and chose to not answer to the people for what he did. It's similar to Tom "Shady" Brady. He got caught cheating in a playoff game. He should've owned up to what he did and apologized to the fans and accepted whatever punishment was given to him. But he refused to own up to what he did and continued to lie and cover it up by trying to destroy evidence. Like Shady Brady, Bucky had the choice to own up to what he did but Bucky refused to do so.
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Post by scabab on Oct 4, 2019 7:31:19 GMT
And youre forgetting Winter Soldier was under the influence of some psychological sequence. Sure but he didnt have to kill Zod, thats not the Superman way It wasn't entirely his fault but he was still responsible and he could have turned himself in I guess. This was also a different interpretation of Superman. He did also kill Zod in Superman 2 so it wasn't the first time.
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Post by dazz on Oct 4, 2019 8:23:14 GMT
Bucky was tortured, conditioned and mind controlled for 70 years, broken down to he was barely more than a bio-mechanical weapon Clearly because it cannot be that everyone but you is smart enough to take things like extenuating circumstances into account, such as Bucky Barnes the man made the choice to serve his country, to fight alongside his best friend in taking down the most dangerous and important Hydra bases during the height of WW2 when Hydra had exponentially more advanced weapons and equipment, and who went head first into the lions den to prevent an army of super soldiers being unleashed into the world, fought for humanity against a horde of alien invaders TWICE, and that it was Winter Soldier the brainwashed and programmed super weapon/assassin that had no control or agency over his actions because every time he showed any sort of personality Hydra wiped his memories over and over again that committed such an act as you describe. Clearly, you still don't get the point. Like I've said many, many times before (and which you and many MCU fans still don't seem to be able to understand), Bucky can argue his "brainwashed" defense in front of a jury of the people but it should be a jury and not Bucky's best friend Steve Rogers who decides if "brainwashing" is a mitigating factor in absolving Bucky of guilt for choking an injured and defenseless woman to death. Since you and so many MCU fans still don't seem to be able to understand, I'll try to make it really simple for you. In 1978, San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk were assassinated by Dan White. White's lawyers used the famous "Twinkee" defense - White ate a lot of Twinkees and the high amounts of sugar caused White to go temporarily insane. So according to you and many other MCU fans, because White's lawyers claimed that White's actions were due to something beyond his control, then we should just accept his word for it and White should automatically be declared not guilty and not have to face a jury. Fortunately, that's not how the justice system works. White's lawyers were free to make that claim, but that still doesn't automatically absolve White of his actions. White's lawyers still had to argue that claim in front of a jury and it was still a jury, not White's lawyers or White's family or White's best friend, that decided how much of a mitigating factor that was in White's actions. Likewise, like I said many, many times before, just because Bucky claims he was brainwashed, that doesn't automatically absolve him of his actions. An innocent, injured, and defenseless woman was choked to death by Bucky's own hands (a fact that many MCU fans seem to ignore). It should be a jury, not Bucky's best friend Steve Rogers, who decides if Bucky is guilty and if "brainwashing" was a mitigating factor. In Young Justice season 2, the Justice League was charged with attacking the planet Rimbor. But the Justice League didn't refuse to turn themselves in to Rimbor's authorities. The Justice League voluntarily surrendered themselves to the custody of Rimbor's authorities and were willing to face a tribunal for those charges. It was proven that the Justice League was framed and the tribunal dropped all charges against the Justice League. But it was the tribunal, not the Justice League, that decided that the Justice League was not guilty. In White's case, in the end, the jury decided that the famous "Twinkee" defense was a mitigating factor and White was found guilty, not of murder but of the lesser charge of manslaughter. And a jury may well have decided that "brainwashing" was a mitigating factor in Bucky's case. And that would've been OK because it would be a jury of the people who decided that.
But what's not OK is Steve Rogers becoming a tyrant and refusing to even give the people the chance to decide if Bucky should be absolved for the killing of an innocent, injured, and defenseless woman due to mitigating factors. Steve Rogers basically said "I don't believe in the justice system and I don't believe in the American people to do the right thing and I certainly don't give a shit that Bucky choked to death an innocent, injured, and defenseless woman. I'm Captain America and I'm more powerful than the people so that gives me the right to unilaterally decide guilt or innocence, exactly the same way that tyrants throughout history have done."Superman actively made that choice himself, of his own free will and sound mind to kill Zod, and only after allowing god knows how many people to die as collateral in his fight, and after he took part in the plan to commit genocide against the last remnants of the Kryptonian race, unlike Bucky who wasn't even Bucky when the Starks were murdered, understand the difference yet numbnuts? After breaking free from HYDRA, Bucky never made the choice to voluntarily turn himself in for choking an innocent, injured, and defenseless woman to death. Bucky did have a choice. He just chose to not own up to what he did and chose to not answer to the people for what he did. It's similar to Tom "Shady" Brady. He got caught cheating in a playoff game. He should've owned up to what he did and apologized to the fans and accepted whatever punishment was given to him. But he refused to own up to what he did and continued to lie and cover it up by trying to destroy evidence. Like Shady Brady, Bucky had the choice to own up to what he did but Bucky refused to do so. Actually Bucky may or may not have known what he had done as the Winter Soldier, and your position is a bullshit one as you continuously shift the goalpost to try and pretend you aren't just being a whiney bitch.
Ok so for one Bucky REPEATEDLY including once in the present day as shown IN THE MOVIES having his memories and personality erased, who is to say he has any actual memory specifically of any events unless his memories are triggered somehow? Bucky also has programming still in his head up to Civil War who is to say one of those is a subconscious command NOT to turn himself in? Makes sense don't you think Hyrda would have safety precautions implemented into a enemy combatant turned slave assassin to keep him from running to the authorities?
Also you say Bucky being considered a hero is why you hate the MCU and then you make up all this bullshit because he's a "murderer" but WE including YOU as the audience who see's the whole picture and KNOWS that Bucky was infact mind controlled, enslaved, tourtured and experimented on for 70+ years, WE KNOW he didn't CHOOSE to kill the Starts, WE KNOW he wasn't in control of his actions, WE KNOW he is NOT responsible, so why does Bucky being considered a hero irk you so much and why are you so adamant that he is the one to be held accountable?
And your he should go to trial thing is bullshit because it is make crystal clear IN CW that Bucky will NOT receive a fair trial, the team sent after him were given orders to shoot on sight, Ross scoffed at the idea of Bucky having a lawyer also, both of these are actually things seen and shown in the movie, Bucky wasn't going to be given a fair shake even in the scene with Tony & Cap when Bucky has been caught his fate is not bound by any sort of fair process, he is hung out as a bargaining chip to get Cap to sign the accords, Cap signs he goes to a US location if not he goes to Wakanda, and before you attempt to claim the shoot on sight thing is just a saying or some other idiocy keep in mind the chopper fired on him and T'Challa on top of a rooftop without once identifying themselves or demanding they turn themselves in.
You just bitch about the MCU like I said because for whatever reason you dislike the movies but you are too fucking stupid to understand why, so why don't you just STOP WATCHING THEM?
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Post by Caesium137 on Oct 4, 2019 8:37:52 GMT
Well that's not really the same. Winter Soldier killed an innocent woman. Superman killed a man who was already responsible for taking many lives and almost took out an innocent family. And youre forgetting Winter Soldier was under the influence of some psychological sequence. Sure but he didnt have to kill Zod, thats not the Superman way He was clearly conflicted at the time when he killed Zod. Superman (and Batman) have killed villains before so I don't know what you mean by the 'Superman way'.
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Post by Caesium137 on Oct 4, 2019 8:39:23 GMT
I don't understand this obsession over heroes killing bad guys as somehow its a negative. To people who say Superman/Batman shouldn't kill...get over it.
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Post by dazz on Oct 4, 2019 10:02:40 GMT
I don't understand this obsession over heroes killing bad guys as somehow its a negative. To people who say Superman/Batman shouldn't kill...get over it. It's not that it's a negative as a whole but Superman & Batman have very much had these more cemented rules of they don't kill, doing so often marks the breaking point for both, Batmen & Supermen who have killed often go down much darker paths, because killing is a limit they place on themselves, for different reasons but a limit none the less.
It's lines the movies cross though because unlike the comics there is no need not to cross them because the real reason they don't is simply because if they killed their villains they will quickly run out of them, this is why comics & TV shows don't kill the villains so willy nilly, but the movies however do, which is a complaint in the MCU that they killed off every interesting villain they have had.
But there is a thing about killing villains for certain characters should be a big deal, like Batman & Superman it's such a defining trait for both that outside of the early comics before this got made a thing that the act of killing is a catalyst for darker what if's or AU versions of themselves, Superman killing Lex or Joker have been the defining moments in 2 stories I know of where Superman becomes a dictator using the JL or a portion of it to assert an iron grip on the world, pretty much every AU version of Batman that kills is a full blown psychotic villain also.
The trope that was put in place to ensure ongoing rogues galleries for the heroes to face was integrated into the core of their personalities to the point most people today see it as doing the opposite of that as betraying the characters, just because the films don't have the same reoccurring villain necessity doesn't mean they should just ignore these crucial aspects of the characters long term characterisation, not without sufficient explanation or pay off atleast you know?
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 4, 2019 10:05:31 GMT
you say Bucky being considered a hero is why you hate the MCU and then you make up all this bullshit because he's a "murderer" but WE including YOU as the audience who see's the whole picture and KNOWS that Bucky was infact mind controlled, enslaved, tourtured and experimented on for 70+ years, WE KNOW he didn't CHOOSE to kill the Starts, WE KNOW he wasn't in control of his actions, WE KNOW he is NOT responsible, so why does Bucky being considered a hero irk you so much and why are you so adamant that he is the one to be held accountable? Because true heroes own up to their actions and accept responsibility for their actions and don't run away like cowards. An innocent, injured, and defenseless woman was killed by Bucky. You claim that Bucky's not guilty. So if he's not guilty, then he should've turned himself in to the authorities so he can be cleared. Instead, he fled, which demonstrates guilty behavior. And even the courts have ruled that when someone flees or tries to flee, the jury can take that as a sign of guilt. If Bucky wasn't guilty, then he shouldn't have fled. If you're driving your car at night in the rain and you're under the speed limit and a pedestrian tries to jaywalk and cross on a red light and you accidentally hit them and kill them, well it was a tragic accident but only an accident and you haven't committed any crime yet. But if you decided to flee from the scene of the accident, then you've just committed a crime. Bucky fled and hid from the authorities for years after he choked an innocent, injured, and defenseless woman to death. Like Tom "Shady" Brady (who got caught cheating and refused to own up to his actions), Bucky chose to not own up to his actions. True heroes don't do that shit. True heroes own up to their actions and accept responsibility for their actions.your he should go to trial thing is bullshit because it is make crystal clear IN CW that Bucky will NOT receive a fair trial, the team sent after him were given orders to shoot on sight Actually, your "shoot on sight" argument is BS. Because if there was a "shoot on sight" order, then they would've just shot Bucky instead of arresting Bucky. The fact that they arrested Bucky when they could've just shot him debunks your entire "shoot on sight" argument.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 4, 2019 10:08:23 GMT
I don't understand this obsession over heroes killing bad guys as somehow its a negative. It's no a negative when a bad guy is killing or threatening to kill innocent people. The negative is killing innocent, injured, and defenseless civilians like Bucky did when he choked Maria Stark to death and then fled and refused to surrender himself to the authorities. True heroes don't do that shit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 10:17:14 GMT
DC-Fan youre a hillbilly, foaming-at-the-mouth clown because you see only red when it comes to the mcu. Whats worse is that you pretend you dont and try and find thin, ridiculous reasons to throw shade at the mcu at every possible chance. Strange how you dont do this for the x-men, well maybe not yet (there is the mcu x-men). Come out of the closet already and say you like the mcu or stop watching the films
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Post by dazz on Oct 4, 2019 12:48:05 GMT
you say Bucky being considered a hero is why you hate the MCU and then you make up all this bullshit because he's a "murderer" but WE including YOU as the audience who see's the whole picture and KNOWS that Bucky was infact mind controlled, enslaved, tourtured and experimented on for 70+ years, WE KNOW he didn't CHOOSE to kill the Starts, WE KNOW he wasn't in control of his actions, WE KNOW he is NOT responsible, so why does Bucky being considered a hero irk you so much and why are you so adamant that he is the one to be held accountable? Because true heroes own up to their actions and accept responsibility for their actions and don't run away like cowards. An innocent, injured, and defenseless woman was killed by Bucky. You claim that Bucky's not guilty. So if he's not guilty, then he should've turned himself in to the authorities so he can be cleared. Instead, he fled, which demonstrates guilty behavior. And even the courts have ruled that when someone flees or tries to flee, the jury can take that as a sign of guilt. If Bucky wasn't guilty, then he shouldn't have fled. If you're driving your car at night in the rain and you're under the speed limit and a pedestrian tries to jaywalk and cross on a red light and you accidentally hit them and kill them, well it was a tragic accident but only an accident and you haven't committed any crime yet. But if you decided to flee from the scene of the accident, then you've just committed a crime. Bucky fled and hid from the authorities for years after he choked an innocent, injured, and defenseless woman to death. Like Tom "Shady" Brady (who got caught cheating and refused to own up to his actions), Bucky chose to not own up to his actions. True heroes don't do that shit. True heroes own up to their actions and accept responsibility for their actions.your he should go to trial thing is bullshit because it is make crystal clear IN CW that Bucky will NOT receive a fair trial, the team sent after him were given orders to shoot on sight Actually, your "shoot on sight" argument is BS. Because if there was a "shoot on sight" order, then they would've just shot Bucky instead of arresting Bucky. The fact that they arrested Bucky when they could've just shot him debunks your entire "shoot on sight" argument. Again cutting out the parts where the bullshit you try and speak has already been addressed because you are too fucking dumb to counter my point.
HOW do we KNOW Bucky KNOWINGLY hide from authorities for killing the Starks? He had his fucking memory erased OVER & OVER & OVER AGAIN you knuckle dragging inbred, we actually SEE IT HAPPENING IN TWS which takes place decades AFTER the Starks death. how do we know Bucky remembers this? He may recall it if the events are triggered in his memories by external factors such as Zemo questioning him.
Also WHY would he hand himself in, he was a prisoner for 70 years by Hydra who had infested all layers of government and law enforcement across the globe for decades, Bucky wasn't in contact with Steve to know Hydra was wiped out, but even so why would he trust the government who had allowed him to be held prisoner for so long and allowed Hydra to infect their ranks so completely for so long to not be still corrupt and untrustworthy to the point he could put his fate into their hands?
And no the shoot on sight argument is not bullshit it is fucking stated in the movie, it's also shown in the movie, the why they didn't kill him when they captured him was because it was in full public view with Cap, Falcon, War Machine & T'Challa all present and suited up, it's why they attacked Bucky inside his home moments after he returned home and not say tranq his butt 50 times when he was walking up to the flats, they didn't want him captured they wanted him taken out, hence trying to kill him and T'Challa ontop of the roof without giving any warnings or orders they just opened up fire with a machine gun on some random guy who they hadn't even identified, they would have killed him in his place which is obvious as not a single one of them came in with non lethal weapons, no bean bag rounds, taser rounds or nothing, they also didn't attempt a non-confrontation means of subduing him, they were clearly in position and waiting on him why not drill a hole from the floor above or below and try to use some odourless gas to knock him out? because they had orders to shoot on sight because no one wanted the truth about Bucky to get out, they just wanted him dead so they could sweep it all away.
And again why wouldn't Bucky have had some sort of sub conscious programming to prevent him from turning himself in as a secondary precaution if he ever broke from their full control? even if he could recall what he had done which we do not know that he infact does, EVERYTHING you bitch about comes down to one thing, intent, he wasn't fleeing, he wasn't hiding from owning up for "his" crimes, he didn't "murder" the Starks or anyone else because they all require him to knowingly intend to do so, that's why there are different layers of criminal charges for causing the death of someone, accidental death, manslaughter, murder and such, the intent of your actions defines which you fall into, if you had no intent what so ever because you were not in control of your actions and were being mind controlled you cannot be a murderer, if Bucky didn't know the things he had done in the past he is not fleeing the punishment for those actions, try to get that through your thick empty skull you fuckwitted hairy knuckled troglodyte.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 4, 2019 16:30:05 GMT
Spider-Man: Far From Home Confirmed The World Views Bucky As A HeroOnly in MCU would a guy who choked an injured and defenseless woman to death and then refused to turn himself in and fled from the authorities endangering the lives of many civilians as well as law enforcement officers be considered a hero. MCU just doesn't understand how a true hero is supposed to conduct themselves. MCU Bucky, Spider-Man, and Captain America are Far From Heroes. It's because you're a troll. Trust me, you don't have to sell yourself. We all know.
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Post by poutinep on Oct 4, 2019 16:39:06 GMT
yeah...it's almost like everyone here except for you is an idiot... Well, I'm not the one who thinks that a guy who choked an injured and defenseless woman to death is a hero so clearly it's those who think that Bucky is a hero who are the idiots. A brainwashed guy. You might as well condemn Hope Shlottman for killing her parents in Jessica Jones due to being mind-raped by Kilgrave. You're a boring troll. get a life.
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Post by sostie on Oct 4, 2019 17:21:42 GMT
DC-Fan hates America's military. Bucky sacrificed himself helping free the Allies from the threat of the Nazi Hun
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 17:47:04 GMT
DC-Fan hates America's military. Bucky sacrificed himself helping free the Allies from the threat of the Nazi Hun Brilliant! Dcfan is a Nazi-lover
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Post by damngumby on Oct 4, 2019 21:38:24 GMT
like I said many, many times before (and which you and many MCU fans still don't seem to be able to understand) You keep regurgitating the same failed argument, champ. Of course the results will be the same. Even a child will eventually recognize when they've lost. Why can't you? You have made it quite clear that you have difficulty with the concept of a super villain becoming a super hero. If you were under the age of 12, when one's world view is still limited to black/white good/bad, that might be understandable. MCU super heroes are not perfect. That is why they are so popular. That is a major reason the MCU has vastly surpassed DC in every facet of the game. Deal with it.
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Post by Wakanda on Oct 5, 2019 9:15:17 GMT
Spider-Man: Far From Home Confirmed The World Views Bucky As A HeroOnly in MCU would a guy who choked an injured and defenseless woman to death and then refused to turn himself in and fled from the authorities endangering the lives of many civilians as well as law enforcement officers be considered a hero. MCU just doesn't understand how a true hero is supposed to conduct themselves. MCU Bucky, Spider-Man, and Captain America are Far From Heroes. My friend. You dont need to explain your hatred for the MCU. You are a DC-Fan. In fact you are the DC-Fan. It is a given that when you are a DC-Fan you have to hate the MCU and everything else Marvel. Just because of that red logo with the white letters. That is enough. I applaud you for your crusade and trust you will continue on your quest. Because that is what grown ups do. You will teach us kids the truth of this world. Marvel is evil and must be destroyed. You have my full support on this quest and I will watch you destroy this evil with a smile on my face. And I will sing your praise and adore you into so you will become devine. A God to all us pop culture fans. Your messages on v2 will be our bible and code to live by. I want to be with you. I wish I could be you. You are everything a man or woman wants to be. Hail DC-Fan
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Post by scabab on Oct 5, 2019 10:07:32 GMT
My friend. You dont need to explain your hatred for the MCU. You are a DC-Fan. In fact you are the DC-Fan. It is a given that when you are a DC-Fan you have to hate the MCU and everything else Marvel. Just because of that red logo with the white letters. That is enough. I applaud you for your crusade and trust you will continue on your quest. Because that is what grown ups do. You will teach us kids the truth of this world. Marvel is evil and must be destroyed. You have my full support on this quest and I will watch you destroy this evil with a smile on my face. And I will sing your praise and adore you into so you will become devine. A God to all us pop culture fans. Your messages on v2 will be our bible and code to live by. I want to be with you. I wish I could be you. You are everything a man or woman wants to be. Hail DC-Fan Apparently DC Fan doesn't stand for DC Comics, it's actually Dallas Cowboys. He's a Dallas Cowboys fan. Or so that is what he told me when I made that assumption. It's not that he's a fan of DC so hates everything Marvel, he just hates the MCU specifically because I think he does like the Spider-Man movies. Not sure about X-Men.
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Post by hobowar on Oct 5, 2019 10:19:44 GMT
I don't understand this obsession over heroes killing bad guys as somehow its a negative. To people who say Superman/Batman shouldn't kill...get over it. If they kill as a first resort, what seperates them from the "bad guys" apart from money and super powers?
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Post by Caesium137 on Oct 5, 2019 10:58:19 GMT
I don't understand this obsession over heroes killing bad guys as somehow its a negative. To people who say Superman/Batman shouldn't kill...get over it. If they kill as a first resort, what seperates them from the "bad guys" apart from money and super powers? If they kill as a first resort then they are a vigilante anti-hero like Deadpool or Punisher. I dont think Batman or Superman have ever killed people in that way, its always been a last resort. The warehouse scene in BvS is brutal but necessary.
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Post by dazz on Oct 5, 2019 13:14:51 GMT
My friend. You dont need to explain your hatred for the MCU. You are a DC-Fan. In fact you are the DC-Fan. It is a given that when you are a DC-Fan you have to hate the MCU and everything else Marvel. Just because of that red logo with the white letters. That is enough. I applaud you for your crusade and trust you will continue on your quest. Because that is what grown ups do. You will teach us kids the truth of this world. Marvel is evil and must be destroyed. You have my full support on this quest and I will watch you destroy this evil with a smile on my face. And I will sing your praise and adore you into so you will become devine. A God to all us pop culture fans. Your messages on v2 will be our bible and code to live by. I want to be with you. I wish I could be you. You are everything a man or woman wants to be. Hail DC-Fan Apparently DC Fan doesn't stand for DC Comics, it's actually Dallas Cowboys. He's a Dallas Cowboys fan. Or so that is what he told me when I made that assumption. It's not that he's a fan of DC so hates everything Marvel, he just hates the MCU specifically because I think he does like the Spider-Man movies. Not sure about X-Men. Nah the names just an abbreviation of a description of the looney, DC really mean well lets say the words rhyme with Thumb Hunt, Fan clearly just stands for fanatic, which really that name suits him, DC-Fan sounds more normal but fits his low IQ because a true description would be better suited in reverse as Fan-DC given the real meaning of his name.
Btw Scabs were you the one who deleted my comment about doofus being a member of the swastika club?
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