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Post by Schwarzwald Magnus on Oct 6, 2019 3:49:57 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Oct 6, 2019 4:03:34 GMT
Good news. Until the bombers show up.
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Post by Schwarzwald Magnus on Oct 6, 2019 12:39:31 GMT
The United Kingdom never should have relinquished Hong Kong to Beijing. Some sort of agreement could have been made to extend its lease. I like that HK is standing on their own feet. They carry Western values.
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Post by vegalyra on Oct 6, 2019 15:05:55 GMT
I hope they can make it happen, but Beijing is going to do something desperate before too long. I just hope the world doesn't sit idly by like they did at Tiananmen. If not a military response, immediate sanctions on all Chinese corporations and the dissolution of all joint agreements, as well as being kicked out of the WTO.
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Post by loofapotato on Oct 6, 2019 15:07:44 GMT
The United Kingdom never should have relinquished Hong Kong to Beijing. Some sort of agreement could have been made to extend its lease. One of the reasons why HK was given up were do in part with China's increasingly threatening pressure to closing down fresh water access. HK and all of the New Territories get their fresh water directly from China. Building and operating desalination plants including tranporting fresh water to every island would have been very cost prohibitive if China acted on their threat after the 99 year lease had expired.
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Post by Xcalatë on Oct 6, 2019 17:26:07 GMT
I think it's only a matter of time until China lose patience and invades Hong Kong.
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Post by JHA Durant on Oct 7, 2019 1:22:45 GMT
Hope this works for them!
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 7, 2019 8:48:05 GMT
One of the reasons why HK was given up were do in part with China's increasingly threatening pressure to closing down fresh water access. HK and all of the New Territories get their fresh water directly from China. Building and operating desalination plants including tranporting fresh water to every island would have been very cost prohibitive if China acted on their threat after the 99 year lease had expired. That's why I said there should have been a negotiated settlement and an extension on the lease. I wonder if anyone in the UK government ever thought of this and proposed it at a meeting.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Oct 7, 2019 14:28:02 GMT
I think it's only a matter of time until China lose patience and invades Hong Kong.
Exactly. There is no way in hell China is going to let Hong Kong go. Simply not gonna happen.
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Post by loofapotato on Oct 7, 2019 17:59:18 GMT
One of the reasons why HK was given up were do in part with China's increasingly threatening pressure to closing down fresh water access. HK and all of the New Territories get their fresh water directly from China. Building and operating desalination plants including tranporting fresh water to every island would have been very cost prohibitive if China acted on their threat after the 99 year lease had expired. That's why I said there should have been a negotiated settlement and an extension on the lease. How? China was holding the gun to the UK's head. Any more extensive and widened aggreement would've been reneged like what China is doing right now installing puppets into HK's gov't and eroding the 2 gov't system.
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Post by loofapotato on Oct 7, 2019 18:04:31 GMT
China is allowing the protests to continue because they are playing the long game. They are willing to allow HK to spite themselves economically. Eventually the protests will fizz out because there is right now ZERO INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE and ZERO AMERICAN SUPPORT or leadership on the matter. Only 28 more years for full Chinese control.
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Post by lordquesterjones on Oct 7, 2019 19:16:58 GMT
The United Kingdom never should have relinquished Hong Kong to Beijing. Some sort of agreement could have been made to extend its lease. Yeah. As I've previously stated; all the former colonies we relinquish control of eventually turn to shyte.
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Post by lordquesterjones on Oct 7, 2019 19:19:15 GMT
That's why I said there should have been a negotiated settlement and an extension on the lease. I wonder if anyone in the UK government ever thought of this and proposed it at a meeting. I'll say one thing about our Government: There's a lot of clever people working behind the scenes, and I'm pretty sure that most eventualities have, or are, being considered and discussed.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Oct 7, 2019 19:34:19 GMT
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Post by Power Ranger on Oct 7, 2019 19:43:21 GMT
Good luck with that.
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 7, 2019 21:34:34 GMT
I wonder if anyone in the UK government ever thought of this and proposed it at a meeting. Maybe you can enlighten us. But of course this is not a place where we exchange ideas and our knowledge on topics. [eyes] You don't know why I posted this here instead of googling? Because not everything can be found on Google? I think the problem is that China wanted Hong Kong more than we did and in the end that bit of land was still rightfully theirs.
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 7, 2019 21:36:20 GMT
I wonder if anyone in the UK government ever thought of this and proposed it at a meeting. I'll say one thing about our Government: There's a lot of clever people working behind the scenes, and I'm pretty sure that most eventualities have, or are, being considered and discussed. I wonder what will be the next to go. Northern Ireland or Gibraltar?
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 8, 2019 7:32:48 GMT
Because not everything can be found on Google? I think the problem is that China wanted Hong Kong more than we did and in the end that bit of land was still rightfully theirs.That argument might hold water if China was a democracy and there weren't millions of Chinese imprisoned in "re-education camps". But it's an oppressive oligarchy. The people in Hong Kong have built themselves a parliamentary democracy as part of the British empire. And the success and wealth of Hong Kong today is not attributable to any investment from Beijing, but from Britain and the West. Still their land though.
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 8, 2019 12:52:55 GMT
No it isn't. It hasn't been ruled by China in over 100 years. I'd say it's the land of the people who live there. Let them decide their future and I guarantee the majority don't want to be part of China. Using your logic England would belong to Italy. If they can provide the signed papers I guess they can have it. We could do with some new roads.
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 12, 2019 10:09:49 GMT
If they can provide the signed papers I guess they can have it. We could do with some new roads. Rebuild Hadrian's Wall but build in a few pizza parlors! Mind you, did we take control of the British Isles following a war that that started after Italy objected to us illegally importing drugs into their country?
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