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Post by Isapop on Oct 10, 2019 0:57:04 GMT
And if the Church Of Satan wanted a regular spot in this rotation, would you be OK with that, in the name of fairness? Sure, about as much as a criminal lifestyle as a career course, would deserve a spot in college/university programmes. I'm sorry, but I don't understand your answer. Could you put it in plain unambiguous terms for simple folk like me?
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Post by clusium on Oct 10, 2019 2:32:46 GMT
Sure, about as much as a criminal lifestyle as a career course, would deserve a spot in college/university programmes. I'm sorry, but I don't understand your answer. Could you put it in plain unambiguous terms for simple folk like me? We go to post secondary school to train for careers, do we not. At post secondary schools (both college & university levels), there are a wide, wide variety of career choices. If satanism should be a religious choice in the public spectrum, then so should criminal activities be in the public spectrum, in the education industry.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 10, 2019 2:44:41 GMT
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your answer. Could you put it in plain unambiguous terms for simple folk like me? We go to post secondary school to train for careers, do we not. At post secondary schools (both college & university levels), there are a wide, wide variety of career choices. If satanism should be a religious choice in the public spectrum, then so should criminal activities be in the public spectrum, in the education industry. To be fair he didn't say Satanism, he said Church of Satan (which is Laveyan Satanism). Most of them aren't actual literal Satanists (they're generally atheists), it's really more a philosophical movement than a religious one. The basic philosophy behind them is actually quite Ayn Randian/libertarian (stay out of my business and I'll stay out of yours). Now as a leftist/progressive I don't really agree with that philosophy, but Laveyans aren't really the lawless lowlife degenerates you're probably thinking them to be.
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Post by clusium on Oct 10, 2019 3:04:45 GMT
We go to post secondary school to train for careers, do we not. At post secondary schools (both college & university levels), there are a wide, wide variety of career choices. If satanism should be a religious choice in the public spectrum, then so should criminal activities be in the public spectrum, in the education industry. To be fair he didn't say Satanism, he said Church of Satan (which is Laveyan Satanism). Most of them aren't actual literal Satanists (they're generally atheists), it's really more a philosophical movement than a religious one. The basic philosophy behind them is actually quite Ayn Randian/libertarian (stay out of my business and I'll stay out of yours). Now as a leftist/progressive I don't really agree with that philosophy, but Laveyans aren't really the lawless lowlife degenerates you're probably thinking them to be. I don't even care what they are, or what they believe.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 10, 2019 3:07:43 GMT
To be fair he didn't say Satanism, he said Church of Satan (which is Laveyan Satanism). Most of them aren't actual literal Satanists (they're generally atheists), it's really more a philosophical movement than a religious one. The basic philosophy behind them is actually quite Ayn Randian/libertarian (stay out of my business and I'll stay out of yours). Now as a leftist/progressive I don't really agree with that philosophy, but Laveyans aren't really the lawless lowlife degenerates you're probably thinking them to be.I don't even care what they are, or what they believe. You don't care but you wanna just go ahead and compare them to criminals? Oh ok.
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Post by clusium on Oct 10, 2019 3:14:37 GMT
I don't even care what they are, or what they believe. You don't care but you wanna just go ahead and compare them to criminals? Oh ok. That's right.
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Post by clusium on Oct 10, 2019 3:27:34 GMT
That's right! Just like the criminal activity within the Christian\Catholic religion. Yup.
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Post by faustus5 on Oct 10, 2019 3:29:26 GMT
It’s extremely irritating not to mention disingenuous the way you libs discredit these type of stories because they’re reported in “conservative” sources. I'm discrediting the story because it reeks of paranoid lies and bullshit. That's pretty much what your entire view of the world is constructed of.
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Post by fatpaul on Oct 10, 2019 6:47:02 GMT
Cody™, you seem to like opinion pieces about kids. You forward one now and you've done so many times in the past. Are you a fucking paedo? Grabbing any news story about kids written by jaffa paedos such as yourself? Fucking Paedo scum! See what I did there? I took an innocuous event (your lame-arsed agenda click-baiting) and twisted it how I wanted it to be perceived. A.K.A fake news. I have no moral qualms about generating fake news because I'm not some mindless gobshite with an agenda and can sniff out bullshit a mile away but it does amaze me how anyone can succumb to such nonsense. But then again you have admitted that you don't even run a critique on anything you forwarded and this is your problem, not your pathetic attempt of conjuring imaginary enemies such as liberal left boogeymen. Do I come across as some liberal lefty boogeyman..... ...you fucking paedo?
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Post by mslo79 on Oct 10, 2019 8:04:44 GMT
The following pretty much sums up Islam...
it should have no place in civilized societies like the USA etc which is largely based around Christianity. but since the godless left is so messed up nowadays they reject the truth for just about anything else.
The Herald Erjen Exactly! ; they (basically many of those in positions of power) hate the truth so pretty much anything that leads one away from the truth they don't have a problem with. but if one is following the truth, they get all hostile towards it etc. basically shows you who's for God and who's for satan. but it's like what's said in the bible... "If the world hates you, understand that it hated Me first. If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. Remember the word that I spoke to you: ‘No servant is greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will persecute you as well; if they kept My word, they will keep yours as well." - John 15:18-20 or like I have posted before... "If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hated. My reason for doing this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh. If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world. Look for the Church that is hated by the world as Christ was hated by the world. Look for the Church that is accused of being behind the times, as our Lord was accused of being ignorant and never having learned. Look for the Church which men sneer at as socially inferior, as they sneered at Our Lord because He came from Nazareth. Look for the Church which is accused of having a devil, as Our Lord was accused of being possessed by Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils. Look for the Church which, in seasons of bigotry, men say must be destroyed in the name of God as men crucified Christ and thought they had done a service to God. Look for the Church which the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because He called Himself the Truth. Look for the Church which is rejected by the world as Our Lord was rejected by men. Look for the Church which amid the confusions of conflicting opinions, its members love as they love Christ, and respect its Voice as the very voice of its Founder, and the suspicion will grow, that if the Church is unpopular with the spirit of the world, then it is unworldly, and if it is unworldly it is other worldly. since it is other-worldly, it is infinitely loved and infinitely hated as was Christ Himself. But only that which is Divine can be infinitely hated and infinitely loved. Therefore the Church is Divine." - Fulton J Sheen (1895-1979) but anyways... the left(at least those in power) is pretty much anti-Christian nowadays as they are okay with Islam but rebel against Christianity. that pretty much tells one all they really need to know. but since many on the left go with the flow of the world (which is often contrary to Jesus Christ) they won't see this stuff. p.s. Christians are the most persecuted worldwide right now. which is not surprising as the more disordered the world becomes it's natural they will attack Christianity since it's the truth and those who like their sin/disorder will begin to hate the truth after a while etc. you can see as society becomes more disordered the more they hate Christianity as the USA has been Christian for a very long time now and as society becomes more messed up you see more and more people trying to remove it from society etc even though that's obviously a bad idea as it's proven good here for a long time now.
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Post by fatpaul on Oct 10, 2019 8:42:39 GMT
Hey mslo79, can you humour me for a minute? Can you go outside and take your face for a shite, then come back in and give your arse a chance? But then again it's probably not entirely your fault given that you're a mushroom, kept in the dark and fed shite! But yeah, wrap it up in a lovely pink bow and call it Da Trooth!Does the fact that some individual random dude thousands of miles away, with a mind like a gutter (but looking at the stars) busting your balls, tickle your persecution-complex boner for you? I'm betting it does. May I suggest you give out your obligatory paraphrased bumper-sticker quote to me? That should show me, eh?
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Post by goz on Oct 10, 2019 8:48:11 GMT
The following pretty much sums up Islam...
it should have no place in civilized societies like the USA etc which is largely based around Christianity. but since the godless left is so messed up nowadays they reject the truth for just about anything else.
The Herald Erjen Exactly! ; they (basically many of those in positions of power) hate the truth so pretty much anything that leads one away from the truth they don't have a problem with. but if one is following the truth, they get all hostile towards it etc. basically shows you who's for God and who's for satan. but it's like what's said in the bible... "If the world hates you, understand that it hated Me first. If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. Remember the word that I spoke to you: ‘No servant is greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will persecute you as well; if they kept My word, they will keep yours as well." - John 15:18-20 or like I have posted before... "If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hated. My reason for doing this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh. If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world. Look for the Church that is hated by the world as Christ was hated by the world. Look for the Church that is accused of being behind the times, as our Lord was accused of being ignorant and never having learned. Look for the Church which men sneer at as socially inferior, as they sneered at Our Lord because He came from Nazareth. Look for the Church which is accused of having a devil, as Our Lord was accused of being possessed by Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils. Look for the Church which, in seasons of bigotry, men say must be destroyed in the name of God as men crucified Christ and thought they had done a service to God. Look for the Church which the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because He called Himself the Truth. Look for the Church which is rejected by the world as Our Lord was rejected by men. Look for the Church which amid the confusions of conflicting opinions, its members love as they love Christ, and respect its Voice as the very voice of its Founder, and the suspicion will grow, that if the Church is unpopular with the spirit of the world, then it is unworldly, and if it is unworldly it is other worldly. since it is other-worldly, it is infinitely loved and infinitely hated as was Christ Himself. But only that which is Divine can be infinitely hated and infinitely loved. Therefore the Church is Divine." - Fulton J Sheen (1895-1979) but anyways... the left(at least those in power) is pretty much anti-Christian nowadays as they are okay with Islam but rebel against Christianity. that pretty much tells one all they really need to know. but since many on the left go with the flow of the world (which is often contrary to Jesus Christ) they won't see this stuff. p.s. Christians are the most persecuted worldwide right now. which is not surprising as the more disordered the world becomes it's natural they will attack Christianity since it's the truth and those who like their sin/disorder will begin to hate the truth after a while etc. you can see as society becomes more disordered the more they hate Christianity as the USA has been Christian for a very long time now and as society becomes more messed up you see more and more people trying to remove it from society etc even though that's obviously a bad idea as it's proven good here for a long time now. All religions are false. That is the truth.
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Post by The Lost One on Oct 10, 2019 9:04:26 GMT
The basic philosophy behind them is actually quite Ayn Randian/libertarian (stay out of my business and I'll stay out of yours). I think I'd actually prefer them to be genuine Satanists
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Post by Cody™ on Oct 10, 2019 9:26:51 GMT
I know plenty about it trust me. Then you should agree with me that people should be educated about islam, along with other major religions, right? I have no problem with people being educated about Islam, or any other religion, provided it’s being represented accurately and not the whitewashed version as seems to be the case when it comes to Islamic history and the sira of Muhammad. Pupils are not being taught facts about how Islam was spread by the sword via forced conversions, rape and pillaging. How the prophet had a 6 year old wife. How he married a Christian woman on the same day he had her entire immediate family(which included her husband) executed. They’re being brainwashed into thinking Islam is this peaceful religion when it is anything but. My issue in this case is how a Christian girl is practically being forced to verbally recite an Islamic creed which completely violates and undermines her faith and infringes on her constitutional right to religious freedom.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 10:07:52 GMT
Then you should agree with me that people should be educated about islam, along with other major religions, right? I have no problem with people being educated about Islam, or any other religion, provided it’s being represented accurately and not the whitewashed version as seems to be the case when it comes to Islamic history and the sira of Muhammad. Pupils are not being taught facts about how Islam was spread by the sword via forced conversions, rape and pillaging. How the prophet had a 6 year old wife. How he married a Christian woman on the same day he had her entire immediate family(which included her husband) executed. They’re being brainwashed into thinking Islam is this peaceful religion when it is anything but. So how many school syllabuses have you looked at, exactly? Since that's almost certainly not happening, no big deal.
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Post by Morgana on Oct 10, 2019 10:14:53 GMT
It’s not about indoctrination. It’s about not bowing to a religion/god that is inherently antichrist to the core. [it doesn’t matter if it’s anti-Christ. A discussion on Islam is never meant to make Christians feel better about their own beliefs. If the content that the OP has posted is correct then it doesn't seem like much of a discussion to me. Saying that Allah is the one true God is part of the Shahada: how a person becomes a Muslim. To say that Muslims have more faith than Christians, if not in a discussion, is wrong. If that was reversed and they said that Christians have more faith than Muslims, you can bet there would be a huge outcry in the press.
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Post by Cody™ on Oct 10, 2019 10:34:37 GMT
I have no problem with people being educated about Islam, or any other religion, provided it’s being represented accurately and not the whitewashed version as seems to be the case when it comes to Islamic history and the sira of Muhammad. Pupils are not being taught facts about how Islam was spread by the sword via forced conversions, rape and pillaging. How the prophet had a 6 year old wife. How he married a Christian woman on the same day he had her entire immediate family(which included her husband) executed. They’re being brainwashed into thinking Islam is this peaceful religion when it is anything but. So how many school syllabuses have you looked at, exactly? Since that's almost certainly not happening, no big deal. Well it was either verbally recite the Shahada or get an automatic fail.
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Post by Cody™ on Oct 10, 2019 10:35:37 GMT
[it doesn’t matter if it’s anti-Christ. A discussion on Islam is never meant to make Christians feel better about their own beliefs. If the content that the OP has posted is correct then it doesn't seem like much of a discussion to me. Saying that Allah is the one true God is part of the Shahada: how a person becomes a Muslim. To say that Muslims have more faith than Christians, if not in a discussion, is wrong. If that was reversed and they said that Christians have more faith than Muslims, you can bet there would be a huge outcry in the press. Saying that Allah is the one true God violates Christianity.
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Post by progressiveelement on Oct 10, 2019 10:37:44 GMT
Not if you cross your fingers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 10:47:27 GMT
So how many school syllabuses have you looked at, exactly? Since that's almost certainly not happening, no big deal. Well it was either verbally recite the Shahada or get an automatic fail. So none, then. Figures.
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