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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 24, 2019 17:48:18 GMT
Endgame
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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 24, 2019 17:51:11 GMT
which marvel time travel hunting film does the film general fans prefer?
for me I went with dofp because it was more mature and did not look like a video games cgi fest.
this looks too kiddie for me, like a video game. scorsese is right. I see the theme park feel with mcu. DOFP is more grounded
"or me I went with dofp because it was more mature and did not look like a video games cgi fest." Did you fall asleep during the intro? it looks like a scene from a Mass Effect game:
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Post by ck100 on Oct 24, 2019 17:51:13 GMT
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Post by kleinreturns on Oct 24, 2019 18:49:32 GMT
I didn't care for Days of Future Past, so Endgame. ^^^This.
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Post by Marv on Oct 24, 2019 19:38:31 GMT
I haven’t watched either more than once...so I’d have to give em both a rewatch to say for sure. I was far more excited for Endgame going in tho.
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Post by miike80 on Oct 24, 2019 19:44:38 GMT
Endgame,easily
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 24, 2019 20:05:36 GMT
I prefer X-Men: Days of Future Past. The time travel aspect feels more elegant and doesn't require bulky exposition or have a heavy dependence on the story. I enjoyed Endgame but one element I disliked was how they handled time travel. Too much emphasis goes into explaining and theorizing the mechanics of time jumping which takes up screentime. The best movies which adopt time travel keep it simple. In Terminator 1 and 2 for example, all you need to know is that terminators can travel back and forth in time and happens as shown. The rest of the movie is then solely focused on developing character and story progression without having to reference timetravel every 20 minutes (which is why Genysis sucks). As Endgame is 3 hours, there are too many instances throughout the movie where they keep bringing up time travel and the problems and solutions that go with it. I understand that many say it's a time heist movie so it should be expected but I was hoping for something more personal and intimate, which is where imo X-Men: Days of Future Past excels. DOTF doesn’t require bulky exposition because t doesn’t feel the need to explain anything. It’s a narrative mess knitted together by cool scenes that usually don’t make sense and some decent performance. The time travel component was godawful.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 24, 2019 20:10:37 GMT
I prefer X-Men: Days of Future Past. The time travel aspect feels more elegant and doesn't require bulky exposition or have a heavy dependence on the story. I enjoyed Endgame but one element I disliked was how they handled time travel. Too much emphasis goes into explaining and theorizing the mechanics of time jumping which takes up screentime. The best movies which adopt time travel keep it simple. In Terminator 1 and 2 for example, all you need to know is that terminators can travel back and forth in time and happens as shown. The rest of the movie is then solely focused on developing character and story progression without having to reference timetravel every 20 minutes (which is why Genysis sucks). As Endgame is 3 hours, there are too many instances throughout the movie where they keep bringing up time travel and the problems and solutions that go with it. I understand that many say it's a time heist movie so it should be expected but I was hoping for something more personal and intimate, which is where imo X-Men: Days of Future Past excels. DOTF doesn’t require bulky exposition because t doesn’t feel the need to explain anything. It’s a narrative mess knitted together by cool scenes that usually don’t make sense and some decent performance. The time travel component was godawful. "The time travel component was godawful." That was one of the problems I had with the film. They could have just a time machine or something, having Wolverine's "consciousness" somehow go back in time was just really goofy, contrived idea.
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Post by Caesium137 on Oct 24, 2019 20:32:13 GMT
DOTF doesn’t require bulky exposition because t doesn’t feel the need to explain anything. It’s a narrative mess knitted together by cool scenes that usually don’t make sense and some decent performance. The time travel component was godawful. I've not seen it for a while but I disagree. I thought Singer converged the timelines well enough. I remember the critics and fans celebrating how Singer retconned X3 outta existence with the clever ending.
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Post by Caesium137 on Oct 24, 2019 20:33:21 GMT
"The time travel component was godawful." That was one of the problems I had with the film. They could have just a time machine or something, having Wolverine's "consciousness" somehow go back in time was just really goofy, contrived idea. Wolverine doesn't age so isn't that the perfect model to base your time travel off?
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Post by Xcalatë on Oct 24, 2019 20:53:28 GMT
Endgame.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 3:24:46 GMT
Personally, Avengers: Endgame. Not only do I prefer it, but I did not like Days of Future Past.
It's not a bad film. In fact, it's a pretty good one, I've been hot and cold on it and I've been cruel to it in the past, but it's a good film. I don't like it because I don't care for its adaptation of the source material. I think the 2 episodes of the animated series from the 90's did a better job with the story.
I also don't like it for what it did for the franchise. As a standalone movie, it does more than it does for a franchise that had grown stale. It had been revitalized against the odds with new crew, new cast and a new perspective with X-Men: First Class, and then reverted back to what made it stale in the first place. Is X-Men: First Class good? Perhaps, but more importantly, it was fresh and different. It was a step forward, and Days of Future Past went two steps backwards bringing back all the old characters, all the old actors, and even the old director. It really showed in X-Men: Apocalypse.
In my opinion. To each their own.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 25, 2019 6:19:35 GMT
which marvel time travel hunting film does the film general fans prefer?
for me I went with dofp because it was more mature and did not look like a video games cgi fest.
this looks too kiddie for me, like a video game. scorsese is right. I see the theme park feel with mcu. DOFP is more grounded
"or me I went with dofp because it was more mature and did not look like a video games cgi fest." Did you fall asleep during the intro? it looks like a scene from a Mass Effect game: yes. we are not against cgi. you need cgi in movies especially comics of fantasy movies. just use it well and use more practical effects to give it more realism. we are against the abuse of it and the over usage of it that your movies becomes a video game. xmen series are good examples. all their bad movies is when the movie has too much action in them or too many massive cgi fest fight. X3, Apocalypse. the cgi in DOFP is used the way it should. to support a story or major plot point.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 25, 2019 6:22:00 GMT
Personally, Avengers: Endgame. Not only do I prefer it, but I did not like Days of Future Past.
It's not a bad film. In fact, it's a pretty good one, I've been hot and cold on it and I've been cruel to it in the past, but it's a good film. I don't like it because I don't care for its adaptation of the source material. I think the 2 episodes of the animated series from the 90's did a better job with the story.
I also don't like it for what it did for the franchise. As a standalone movie, it does more than it does for a franchise that had grown stale. It had been revitalized against the odds with new crew, new cast and a new perspective with X-Men: First Class, and then reverted back to what made it stale in the first place. Is X-Men: First Class good? Perhaps, but more importantly, it was fresh and different. It was a step forward, and Days of Future Past went two steps backwards bringing back all the old characters, all the old actors, and even the old director. It really showed in X-Men: Apocalypse.
In my opinion. To each their own.
MCU fans prefer endgame, real fans of cinema go with DOFP.
MCU fans are still in all opinions. in the mcu world but cgi and formulaic story telling is just opinions, this will have never flown IN 1998-2008.
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Post by gljbradley on Oct 25, 2019 6:25:57 GMT
Personally, Avengers: Endgame. Not only do I prefer it, but I did not like Days of Future Past.
It's not a bad film. In fact, it's a pretty good one, I've been hot and cold on it and I've been cruel to it in the past, but it's a good film. I don't like it because I don't care for its adaptation of the source material. I think the 2 episodes of the animated series from the 90's did a better job with the story.
I also don't like it for what it did for the franchise. As a standalone movie, it does more than it does for a franchise that had grown stale. It had been revitalized against the odds with new crew, new cast and a new perspective with X-Men: First Class, and then reverted back to what made it stale in the first place. Is X-Men: First Class good? Perhaps, but more importantly, it was fresh and different. It was a step forward, and Days of Future Past went two steps backwards bringing back all the old characters, all the old actors, and even the old director. It really showed in X-Men: Apocalypse.
In my opinion. To each their own.
MCU fans prefer endgame, real fans of cinema go with DOFP.
MCU fans are still in all opinions. in the mcu world but cgi and formulaic story telling is just opinions, this will have never flown IN 1998-2008.
I partially agree.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 5:18:15 GMT
DOFP had plenty of CGI and felt no different than the theme park films that Martin Scorsese describes the MCU as. I'd rank both around the same. Both really good but not the best of their franchises. No it didn't. DOFP was far more grounded. the cgi was kept to minimum and did not go on for long. also when there was an action scenes there was story telling like magneto's speech. you felt the tension, drama and stakes. the cgi were practical effects meaning it looked less than theme parks. they were gritter too not fun to look at like endgame. .practical effects offers more realism. more importantly DOFP had a strong message of racism, politics, prejudice, heavy substance abuse issues and complex characters. DOFP is a drama with some cgi. its more like Hugo than endgame.
Ironically the director of DOFP once said everything scorsese said in year 2000, reason he made his xmen movies so different.
DOFP is not an MCU movie, no way Disney will allow that.
Whatever pal. I still think they're about the same. My opinion. You've got no right to call me wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 5:19:43 GMT
Personally, Avengers: Endgame. Not only do I prefer it, but I did not like Days of Future Past.
It's not a bad film. In fact, it's a pretty good one, I've been hot and cold on it and I've been cruel to it in the past, but it's a good film. I don't like it because I don't care for its adaptation of the source material. I think the 2 episodes of the animated series from the 90's did a better job with the story.
I also don't like it for what it did for the franchise. As a standalone movie, it does more than it does for a franchise that had grown stale. It had been revitalized against the odds with new crew, new cast and a new perspective with X-Men: First Class, and then reverted back to what made it stale in the first place. Is X-Men: First Class good? Perhaps, but more importantly, it was fresh and different. It was a step forward, and Days of Future Past went two steps backwards bringing back all the old characters, all the old actors, and even the old director. It really showed in X-Men: Apocalypse.
In my opinion. To each their own.
MCU fans prefer endgame, real fans of cinema go with DOFP.
MCU fans are still in all opinions. in the mcu world but cgi and formulaic story telling is just opinions, this will have never flown IN 1998-2008.
I like all forms of cinema buddy including MCU. Also MCU films would've been praised in 1998-2008 aswell.
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Post by Vits on Oct 30, 2019 11:13:34 GMT
ENDGAME - 8/10 DAYS OF FUTURE PAST - 9/10
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Post by sostie on Oct 30, 2019 12:15:15 GMT
Just in case you missed it, everyone who preferred Endgame, according to the OP you are not real fans of cinema.
I'm sure this is based on his study of the craft and being a learned cineast/cinephile, and not because he has a hatred for all things MCU, or bacause he thinks Scorsese doesn't like the films he doesn't like, therefore he is as well versed as Scorsese.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Oct 30, 2019 13:18:29 GMT
So let's see...I guess all the Scorsese & Coppola movies (and while I don't own all of their work, I own quite a bit), all the Bogie movies, the works of Hitchcock, Tarantino, Spielberg, Donner, Carpenter, Wes Anderson, Landis, and yes even THE DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY, the Classic Universal Horror from the 30s-50s, all the film noir of the 40s, damn near every one of Keira Knightley's movies (which other than a certain trilogy about Pirates ain't exactly blockbuster popcorn stuff), and films from many other actors/directors I admire spanning various genres that I have in my home library all mean nothing, and I'm not a fan of real cinema because I prefer Endgame. Have I got that right, spunky? You're the biggest fool on this board, and that's saying something because it boasts some real imbeciles. I envision you sitting alone in a dark room, drooling uncontrollably while sitting in a wet diaper with thoughts of the MCU filling your head constantly. Strange how your existence is consumed by the very thing you claim to despise.
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