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Post by thenolan on Oct 22, 2019 4:16:10 GMT
He has lunched another fresh attack on Marvel movies. he thinks it is unfortunate the young people today thinks mcu and comic movies are cinema.
This guy is not backing down. where were this comments from 1998-2008?
I guess they were not necessary.
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Post by blockbusted on Oct 22, 2019 4:17:56 GMT
He has lunched another fresh attack on Marvel movies. he thinks it is unfortunate the young people today thinks mcu and comic movies are cinema.
This guy is not backing down. where were this comments from 1998-2008?
I guess they were not necessary.
That’s because superhero films weren’t really a thing back then.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 22, 2019 4:26:13 GMT
He has lunched another fresh attack on Marvel movies. he thinks it is unfortunate the young people today thinks mcu and comic movies are cinema.
This guy is not backing down. where were this comments from 1998-2008?
I guess they were not necessary.
That’s because superhero films weren’t really a thing back then. they were a thing.
Blade Blade 2 X-men
X-Men 2 Spiderman Spiderman 2 Batman Begins TDK V for Vendetta Sin City Watchmen Iron Man 1
Gee, I noticed none of these movies feel like Disney theme parks even iron man 1 did not look like a full on Disney theme flick.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 22, 2019 4:26:48 GMT
This thread is more about the minds of young people. Now I would say I don't agree with scorsese here because he does say, young people, so kids. MCU movies are more for kids. I think kids are entitled to enjoy what is made for them. when they get older they can move onto the adult aspects of the genre they like.
So to me Scorsese is not entirely right here.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 22, 2019 4:38:58 GMT
That’s because superhero films weren’t really a thing back then. they were a thing.
Blade Blade 2 X-men
X-Men 2 Spiderman Spiderman 2 Batman Begins TDK V for Vendetta Sin City Watchmen Iron Man 1
Gee, I noticed none of these movies feel like Disney theme parks even iron man 1 did not look like a full on Disney theme flick.
That's because none of those films could match the massive success of the MCU franchise. IM1 had just started the ball rolling at that point.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 22, 2019 4:54:16 GMT
they were a thing.
Blade Blade 2 X-men
X-Men 2 Spiderman Spiderman 2 Batman Begins TDK V for Vendetta Sin City Watchmen Iron Man 1
Gee, I noticed none of these movies feel like Disney theme parks even iron man 1 did not look like a full on Disney theme flick.
That's because none of those films could match the massive success of the MCU franchise. IM1 had just started the ball rolling at that point. theme park kiddie driven Disney successful comic movies. that is what Disney was going for anyway but they did not need to destroy the genre though
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 5:10:44 GMT
That's because none of those films could match the massive success of the MCU franchise. IM1 had just started the ball rolling at that point. theme park kiddie driven Disney successful comic movies. that is what Disney was going for anyway but they did not need to destroy the genre though They saved the genre idiot. They were successful and these movies are for all ages.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 5:14:38 GMT
Read the article buddy he just expressed his opinion. Quit trying to spin these click bait articles into your ridiculous opinions.
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Post by dazz on Oct 22, 2019 6:16:25 GMT
This thread is more about the minds of young people. Now I would say I don't agree with scorsese here because he does say, young people, so kids. MCU movies are more for kids. I think kids are entitled to enjoy what is made for them. when they get older they can move onto the adult aspects of the genre they like. So to me Scorsese is not entirely right here. Not right about what? What he actually says regarding young people is this.
So he's not saying they shouldn't be allowed anyway you doofus, I personally believe here whilst he is still trying to make excuses as to why he isn't getting a full theatrical roll out for his film as being the fault of the cinema's and franchise movies rather then his own inability to keep his movie budget reasonably for the studios, but that's another issue, Scorsese isn't saying anything about not letting anyone have their movies they love as they love them, though for such a great storyteller he is inept at getting his point across I believe in this instance, he is saying the theatres should be making space for the likes of his movies as well as the superhero, franchise blockbuster types, so that kids don't grow up just thinking that's what movies are, thing is it's kind of daft because what kids go to watch the types of movies he considers cinema anyway? what child is going to want to watch The Irishman in the theatres but cannot because of it having limited run?
And again your reading comprehension is atrocious, he's specifically calling out superhero films in general and franchise movies, which makes sense given he's moaning about these franchise blockbuster movies eating up most of the theatre space, which considering they tend to fill about one screen in 80% of the US's theatres per release for the first month of release makes sense, a hell of a lot more than claiming that's the case with just the MCU who at best put out just 3 movies per year.
Try reading the articles before you attempt to interpret them in future dopey.
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Post by blockbusted on Oct 22, 2019 6:20:37 GMT
That’s because superhero films weren’t really a thing back then. they were a thing.
Blade Blade 2 X-men
X-Men 2 Spiderman Spiderman 2 Batman Begins TDK V for Vendetta Sin City Watchmen Iron Man 1
Gee, I noticed none of these movies feel like Disney theme parks even iron man 1 did not look like a full on Disney theme flick.
First off, Blade and Blade 2 weren't exactly considered as masterpieces even back then. Second, why add Sin City and V for Vendetta even though they're not superhero films? Third, why add Watchmen, which came out in 2009?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 22, 2019 13:40:15 GMT
That's because none of those films could match the massive success of the MCU franchise. IM1 had just started the ball rolling at that point. theme park kiddie driven Disney successful comic movies. that is what Disney was going for anyway but they did not need to destroy the genre though No, Batman & Robin tried to do that.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 22, 2019 13:54:30 GMT
theme park kiddie driven Disney successful comic movies. that is what Disney was going for anyway but they did not need to destroy the genre though No, Batman & Robin tried to do that. it did and failed. mcu has succeeded with it because Disney brainwashed you people.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 22, 2019 14:03:29 GMT
No, Batman & Robin tried to do that. it did and failed. mcu has succeeded with it because Disney brainwashed you people. So cranky. I'm sorry Nolan botched the dismount with The Dark Knight Rises, but that's no reason to have a stroke over the MCU. They're great, fun movies. They did what no other comic book franchise has done. Knocked it out of the park for over 10 years and over 20 movies. It's beautiful. And you actually got to experience it.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 22, 2019 15:13:45 GMT
That's because none of those films could match the massive success of the MCU franchise. IM1 had just started the ball rolling at that point. theme park kiddie driven Disney successful comic movies. that is what Disney was going for anyway but they did not need to destroy the genre though Name-calling is usually one of the first signs someone makes when they're butthurt but can't form a logical comeback.
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Post by dazz on Oct 22, 2019 15:38:07 GMT
That's because none of those films could match the massive success of the MCU franchise. IM1 had just started the ball rolling at that point. theme park kiddie driven Disney successful comic movies. that is what Disney was going for anyway but they did not need to destroy the genre though Ok so outside of the MCU what other "kiddie" driven movies revolve around death, sacrifice, betrayal, violence, politics and abuse? 3 if not 4 of which are present in every MCU film.
You seem to mistake been child appropriate as is the case of being PG-13 as being "kiddie" driven, and how did they destroy the genre exactly? in the midst of the MCU's rise we got inarguably the best films in the genre's history, why? because the MCU made everyone realise hey wait a minute you mean we can do more than 1 of these every few years at a good quality? X-Men were a once every few years property until the MCU kicked into high gear then we suddenly got multiple movies a year including imo the best cbm of all time in Logan, pre-MCU explosion we got 5 X-Men films over 11 years, post MCU explosion we got 7 over 6, with DC prior to the MCU blow up we got 21 films over 34 years, after the MCU hit huge we have got 8 over 7 years, with Sony we got 4 films over a decade, and since we have had 5 films in 6 years, including widely considered the best Spider-Man movie to date with Spider-Verse.
See a pattern emerging? every major comicbook movie producing studio upper their game once Marvel Studios hit it out the park with Avengers, the genre isn't dead it's thriving more so than it ever had before hand, hell it is a genre now, it used to just be a sub genre of action films, now cbm's are their own genre with sub-genres of their own.
I mean seriously dude you couldn't talk more bollocks even if you swallowed a bag of Korean meatballs.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 22, 2019 16:11:27 GMT
I myself enjoy having a fresh attack on Marvel movies for lunch too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 16:25:25 GMT
I myself enjoy having a fresh attack on Marvel movies for lunch too. With a sprinkle of delusion for additional flavor.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 16:26:30 GMT
No, Batman & Robin tried to do that. it did and failed. mcu has succeeded with it because Disney brainwashed you people. Disney didn't brainwash anyone. Heck for me the best CBM is still The Dark Knight and that's the only CBM I would rate 10/10.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 22, 2019 17:33:30 GMT
they were a thing.
Blade Blade 2 X-men
X-Men 2 Spiderman Spiderman 2 Batman Begins TDK V for Vendetta Sin City Watchmen Iron Man 1
Gee, I noticed none of these movies feel like Disney theme parks even iron man 1 did not look like a full on Disney theme flick.
First off, Blade and Blade 2 weren't exactly considered as masterpieces even back then. Second, why add Sin City and V for Vendetta even though they're not superhero films? Third, why add Watchmen, which came out in 2009? Funny he don't list movies like Daredevil, Elektra, the F4s, Catwoman, Jonah Hex, X3, X-men Origins, and a bunch of other movies that were bad.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 22, 2019 17:37:39 GMT
it did and failed. mcu has succeeded with it because Disney brainwashed you people. Disney didn't brainwash anyone. Heck for me the best CBM is still The Dark Knight and that's the only CBM I would rate 10/10. Disney must have done a good job brainwashing everyone because The Avengers was their 1st MCU movie and that did amazingly.
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