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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 15:23:56 GMT
MCU has made movies just as good as most of the comic book films from that era. Also based on your comments I'm sure you're the on who's full of shit and know nothing about cinema. MCU ,I believe make good movies for kids and an audience who don't want to think. its just that, that is bad when you compare it to 1998-2008 films.
Well it's a good thing it's only what you believe. I don't think we could stand having someone else with beliefs as ridiculous as yours.
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Post by dazz on Oct 23, 2019 15:30:39 GMT
What do trolls have left, but individuals crapping on the genre? Even though some try to say the genre is ruined you couldn't say that looking at the numbers. The MCU specifically and Comic Book movies in general are the most popular, most money making, and get the largest press. The MCU in particular is well loved by audience and critics a like. The only thing the trolls have left in their quiver are bringing up individuals who have a problem with the MCU or Genre. They can buck the stats and say that the genre is ruined but that just makes them look insane. Well they can go after the "kiddie" or "mature" criticism, but again the stats and real world experience makes them look insane. Their last bastion is to find a movie maker who's opinion they agree with and present it like it's a smoking gun. "Look at this I'm not wrong, these movies aren't good, popular, or critically praised because (insert person here) agrees with me!" MCU fans calling main scorsese a troll is the core definition of ignorance
MCU movies are mostly popular to a brainduck crowd who knows nothing about cinema.
Watch the movies from 1998-2008 if you want a comic movie that does deserve the press, thank the Lord they got the praise too that MCU can only dream of. back then comic movies were deep and thought provoking.
Yes it would be IF that is what they were saying, reread it you illiterate prat, he said individuals crapping on marvel is the last hope that trolls have to hang on to, as in stupid, ignorant morons such as yourself latching onto any criticism someone like Scorsese may lay down on the MCU, something reiterated at the end of his post not just at the start, learn to read properly you fucking dumb cunt.
Brainduck? Main Scorsese? and you are calling people who enjoy MCU movies stupid? Pot meet Kettle.
Oh yes because Blade Trinity, X-Men The Last Stand, Spidey 3, Elektra, Fantastic Four 1 & 2, Ghost Rider, Catwoman, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Bulletproof Monk, MIB 2 and Virus were so thought provoking, that though being BAH GOD WHAT A PILE OF SHIT!!
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Post by politicidal on Oct 23, 2019 17:08:26 GMT
Read the article buddy he just expressed his opinion. Quit trying to spin these click bait articles into your ridiculous opinions. But then he’s got nothing to live for.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 23, 2019 20:04:13 GMT
I'm worried too. For MCU fans. No, you're not. Don't lie.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Oct 23, 2019 21:04:37 GMT
I'm worried too. For MCU fans. No, you're not. Don't lie. Yes, I'm. Very worried, actually.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 23, 2019 21:23:08 GMT
No, you're not. Don't lie. Yes, I'm. Very worried, actually. Liar, liar, pants on fire.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 23, 2019 21:27:15 GMT
He means there is less consumer choice for people now. A MCU movie fills up like 10 screens in a cinema complex--which means if there are other movies they will not get the cinema space. So less artistic variety. But I also suspect the reason he makes these comments now also happens to be because he had to go to Netflix to get his latest movie funded. If Disney made it, I wonder if he would be complaining.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Oct 23, 2019 21:47:59 GMT
Yes, I'm. Very worried, actually. Liar, liar, pants on fire. Don't say those words. You can awake some weird demon.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 24, 2019 1:55:21 GMT
SOMEBODY, PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 24, 2019 1:57:53 GMT
What do trolls have left, but individuals crapping on the genre? Even though some try to say the genre is ruined you couldn't say that looking at the numbers. The MCU specifically and Comic Book movies in general are the most popular, most money making, and get the largest press. The MCU in particular is well loved by audience and critics a like. The only thing the trolls have left in their quiver are bringing up individuals who have a problem with the MCU or Genre. They can buck the stats and say that the genre is ruined but that just makes them look insane. Well they can go after the "kiddie" or "mature" criticism, but again the stats and real world experience makes them look insane. Their last bastion is to find a movie maker who's opinion they agree with and present it like it's a smoking gun. "Look at this I'm not wrong, these movies aren't good, popular, or critically praised because (insert person here) agrees with me!" MCU fans calling main scorsese a troll is the core definition of ignorance
MCU movies are mostly popular to a brainduck crowd who knows nothing about cinema.
they make money because...hello Disney.
they get the largest press....hello Disney.
This is beyond ridiculous all what you are doing is proving MCU is utter trash and these young generation are full of shit.
Watch the movies from 1998-2008 if you want a comic movie that does deserve the press, thank the Lord they got the praise too that MCU can only dream of. back then comic movies were deep and thought provoking.
I'm and other fans aren't calling Scorsese a troll we are calling you a troll for using Scorsese to push your rabid obsession with trying to down play the MCU. He has a right to his opinion. You have a right to your opinion, but you can't defend your opinion on it's own merit. You have to use other's opinion to try to degradate other's opinion. Younger generation??? Motherfucker I was born in 1977. It's done before, but do I have to list out the not so small amount of movies that Disney has made that has bombed in the last decade? Being made by disney doesn't guarantee money. Press doesn't guarantee people going to see it. If Press equaled box office Batman v Superman wouldn't have fell off a cliff it's second weekend. Press might get the initial people in the door. It continuing to make money at a decent clip is based off of Word of Mouth. Some of the movies in that time period does deserve the press. Most didn't. Spawn The Crow Salvation Witchblade Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger IV Hellboy Son of the Mask The Crow Wicked Prayer Sky High 300 Zoom Underdog El Muerto Jumper Hancock Helboy 2 The Spirit Steel Catwoman Batman Begins Superman Returns The Dark Knight Blade Xmen Blade 2 Spiderman DAredevil X2 Hulk The Punisher Spiderman 2 Blade Trinity Elktra Fantastic 4 X3 Ghost Rider Spiderman 3 Rise of the Silver Surfer Ironman The Incredible Hulk Punisher Warzone In that decade I found 40 Superhero/Comic Book Movies and I would say what 4-5 Great 5 more good and the rest blah. You fondly remember the good and great movies and conveniently forget the rest is telling. If you are doing it actively then it's just another trick to troll people. If it's subconscious it's telling of the type of person you are also.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 24, 2019 2:13:43 GMT
MCU fans calling main scorsese a troll is the core definition of ignorance
MCU movies are mostly popular to a brainduck crowd who knows nothing about cinema.
Watch the movies from 1998-2008 if you want a comic movie that does deserve the press, thank the Lord they got the praise too that MCU can only dream of. back then comic movies were deep and thought provoking.
Yes it would be IF that is what they were saying, reread it you illiterate prat, he said individuals crapping on marvel is the last hope that trolls have to hang on to, as in stupid, ignorant morons such as yourself latching onto any criticism someone like Scorsese may lay down on the MCU, something reiterated at the end of his post not just at the start, learn to read properly you fucking dumb cunt.
Brainduck? Main Scorsese? and you are calling people who enjoy MCU movies stupid? Pot meet Kettle.
Oh yes because Blade Trinity, X-Men The Last Stand, Spidey 3, Elektra, Fantastic Four 1 & 2, Ghost Rider, Catwoman, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Bulletproof Monk, MIB 2 and Virus were so thought provoking, that though being BAH GOD WHAT A PILE OF SHIT!!
Damn, I went with my old English Teacher's advice of repeating the point 3 different ways to hammer home the main idea and he still didn't get it.
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Post by dazz on Oct 24, 2019 2:32:47 GMT
Yes it would be IF that is what they were saying, reread it you illiterate prat, he said individuals crapping on marvel is the last hope that trolls have to hang on to, as in stupid, ignorant morons such as yourself latching onto any criticism someone like Scorsese may lay down on the MCU, something reiterated at the end of his post not just at the start, learn to read properly you fucking dumb cunt.
Brainduck? Main Scorsese? and you are calling people who enjoy MCU movies stupid? Pot meet Kettle.
Oh yes because Blade Trinity, X-Men The Last Stand, Spidey 3, Elektra, Fantastic Four 1 & 2, Ghost Rider, Catwoman, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Bulletproof Monk, MIB 2 and Virus were so thought provoking, that though being BAH GOD WHAT A PILE OF SHIT!!
Damn, I went with my old English Teacher's advice of repeating the point 3 different ways to hammer home the main idea and he still didn't get it. Mate he wouldn't get the point if you shoved a spear up his arse, he's just that dumb.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 24, 2019 7:35:38 GMT
MCU fans calling main scorsese a troll is the core definition of ignorance
MCU movies are mostly popular to a brainduck crowd who knows nothing about cinema.
they make money because...hello Disney.
they get the largest press....hello Disney.
This is beyond ridiculous all what you are doing is proving MCU is utter trash and these young generation are full of shit.
Watch the movies from 1998-2008 if you want a comic movie that does deserve the press, thank the Lord they got the praise too that MCU can only dream of. back then comic movies were deep and thought provoking.
I'm and other fans aren't calling Scorsese a troll we are calling you a troll for using Scorsese to push your rabid obsession with trying to down play the MCU. He has a right to his opinion. You have a right to your opinion, but you can't defend your opinion on it's own merit. You have to use other's opinion to try to degradate other's opinion. Younger generation??? Motherfucker I was born in 1977. It's done before, but do I have to list out the not so small amount of movies that Disney has made that has bombed in the last decade? Being made by disney doesn't guarantee money. Press doesn't guarantee people going to see it. If Press equaled box office Batman v Superman wouldn't have fell off a cliff it's second weekend. Press might get the initial people in the door. It continuing to make money at a decent clip is based off of Word of Mouth. Some of the movies in that time period does deserve the press. Most didn't. Spawn The Crow Salvation Witchblade Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger IV Hellboy Son of the Mask The Crow Wicked Prayer Sky High 300 Zoom Underdog El Muerto Jumper Hancock Helboy 2 The Spirit Steel Catwoman Batman Begins Superman Returns The Dark Knight Blade Xmen Blade 2 Spiderman DAredevil X2 Hulk The Punisher Spiderman 2 Blade Trinity Elktra Fantastic 4 X3 Ghost Rider Spiderman 3 Rise of the Silver Surfer Ironman The Incredible Hulk Punisher Warzone In that decade I found 40 Superhero/Comic Book Movies and I would say what 4-5 Great 5 more good and the rest blah. You fondly remember the good and great movies and conveniently forget the rest is telling. If you are doing it actively then it's just another trick to troll people. If it's subconscious it's telling of the type of person you are also. Am not a troll. I am mostly with scorsese and have backed up my opinions with merits. one merit would be mcu movies look like video games and are too childish. those are merited reasons.
You don't make thor an ass clown.
Also drop the opinion nonsense. Ha, some of you mcu fans are a real piece of work. scorsese is all about opinions but you mcu fans worship this brainless critics praising your mcu movies when they know these movies are artistic crap.
you found 40 movies and only about 4-5 are great? I can count 8 like X2, X1, Blade, Blade 2, Spiderman 1, spiderman 2, tdk, bb from marvel and DC alone that shits on your mcu movies were not one is great.
what are mcu fans standard for great? Endgame is childish and pathetic to many xmen and dc fans because of greats like dofp and flash point? I would not want to hear of mcu fans definition of great as they think Disney theme parks comic films that have destroyed the superhero genre are the greatest.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 24, 2019 8:48:20 GMT
I'm and other fans aren't calling Scorsese a troll we are calling you a troll for using Scorsese to push your rabid obsession with trying to down play the MCU. He has a right to his opinion. You have a right to your opinion, but you can't defend your opinion on it's own merit. You have to use other's opinion to try to degradate other's opinion. Younger generation??? Motherfucker I was born in 1977. It's done before, but do I have to list out the not so small amount of movies that Disney has made that has bombed in the last decade? Being made by disney doesn't guarantee money. Press doesn't guarantee people going to see it. If Press equaled box office Batman v Superman wouldn't have fell off a cliff it's second weekend. Press might get the initial people in the door. It continuing to make money at a decent clip is based off of Word of Mouth. Some of the movies in that time period does deserve the press. Most didn't. Spawn The Crow Salvation Witchblade Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger IV Hellboy Son of the Mask The Crow Wicked Prayer Sky High 300 Zoom Underdog El Muerto Jumper Hancock Helboy 2 The Spirit Steel Catwoman Batman Begins Superman Returns The Dark Knight Blade Xmen Blade 2 Spiderman DAredevil X2 Hulk The Punisher Spiderman 2 Blade Trinity Elktra Fantastic 4 X3 Ghost Rider Spiderman 3 Rise of the Silver Surfer Ironman The Incredible Hulk Punisher Warzone In that decade I found 40 Superhero/Comic Book Movies and I would say what 4-5 Great 5 more good and the rest blah. You fondly remember the good and great movies and conveniently forget the rest is telling. If you are doing it actively then it's just another trick to troll people. If it's subconscious it's telling of the type of person you are also. Am not a troll. I am mostly with scorsese and have backed up my opinions with merits. one merit would be mcu movies look like video games and are too childish. those are merited reasons.
You don't make thor an ass clown.
Also drop the opinion nonsense. Ha, some of you mcu fans are a real piece of work. scorsese is all about opinions but you mcu fans worship this brainless critics praising your mcu movies when they know these movies are artistic crap.
you found 40 movies and only about 4-5 are great? I can count 8 like X2, X1, Blade, Blade 2, Spiderman 1, spiderman 2, tdk, bb from marvel and DC alone that shits on your mcu movies were not one is great.
what are mcu fans standard for great? Endgame is childish and pathetic to many xmen and dc fans because of greats like dofp and flash point? I would not want to hear of mcu fans definition of great as they think Disney theme parks comic films that have destroyed the superhero genre are the greatest.
Critiquing the cgi saying it looks like a video game is explaining your opinion, but how are they childish? Stating something is childish isn't critiquing? Is it the humor, because I can tell you Cops, Soldiers, Doctors, Morticians, Suicidal Mental Health patients number 1 defense mechanism is to quip and to make jokes. And making Thor a clown as you state, rings personally true to me. I've been completely bereft. Hell I've attempted suicide 4 times in my life. The last time got me 2 months in a psych ward. Yes it was a sight gag, but the best humor is sprinkled with reality. Also playing the melancholy off of the humor made each hit harder. If that's not your cup of tea that's groovy, but just know your opinion is not shared by all. Fat Thor was divisive I won't say it isn't, but to me the depression and humor at the same time felt earned and needed. Thor character ark took him from the Mightiest of Heroes to the rock bottom. He was stripped of everything. Even visually. Even the humor at his expense had a purpose to strip the character of even the pride of his looks. It was the perfect representation of rock bottom. Now the character and the actor has tons of different places to go from hear to rebuild himself. That's just my opinion. Search my posting history and see what I say about critics. Nobodies opinion matters but your own. Nobodies not even if God came down Herself looked you straight in the face and said that The Avengers is the best movie ever made. And God being correct is the basis for all existence to sustain itself. You know what would happen? Existence would cease to exist because there is no such think as Objective Truth/Opinion when it comes to art. Your opinion means the exact same thing as everyone else. The only time I bring up critics is when people bring up critical acclaim. Summers8 would get bent out of shape because of it. When he would bring up critical acclaim I would point out that if you cared about such things then Movie A is rated X, but he and a lot of haters of the MCU would trash what ever site rating I would bring up. Saying that the site was biased when the fucking site didn't make the critical anaylsis they just aggregated it. He only wanted critics that agreed with him to count. Just for the record guess what Awards mean jack and shit too. They are just aggregated opinions in award form. Even less so people are campaigned for their votes actively not some passive access allowance that some critics get. Studio people active try to persuade members of the Academy, the foreign press, etc. They mean less than critical opinions. and yes I would consider like 5 great and 4 or 5 good. See that's how opinions work. (any given day some may move from good to great or from good to decent depending on mood or the last time I viewed them) Great Batman Begins The Dark Knight X2 Spiderman 2 Ironman Good Hellboy Blade Xmen Spiderman Decent 300 Hellboy 2 Blade 2 The Punisher Meh Spawn Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger IV Sky High El Muerto Hancock The Spirit Superman Returns DAredevil Hulk Blade Trinity The Incredible Hulk Horrible The Crow Salvation Witchblade Zoom Underdog Jumper Elktra Fantastic 4 X3 Ghost Rider Rise of the Silver Surfer Punisher Warzone Beyond Horrible The Crow Wicked Prayer Son of the Mask Steel Catwoman Spiderman 3 Now I am just stating my opinion, I'm not backing each opinion up at this time because we are talking 40 movies, but I have no illusions. What I'm stating is opinion. My opinion. I don't need to bring in Spielberg, Lucas, Scorcese, Hitchcock, or Tarintino.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 15:10:28 GMT
I'm and other fans aren't calling Scorsese a troll we are calling you a troll for using Scorsese to push your rabid obsession with trying to down play the MCU. He has a right to his opinion. You have a right to your opinion, but you can't defend your opinion on it's own merit. You have to use other's opinion to try to degradate other's opinion. Younger generation??? Motherfucker I was born in 1977. It's done before, but do I have to list out the not so small amount of movies that Disney has made that has bombed in the last decade? Being made by disney doesn't guarantee money. Press doesn't guarantee people going to see it. If Press equaled box office Batman v Superman wouldn't have fell off a cliff it's second weekend. Press might get the initial people in the door. It continuing to make money at a decent clip is based off of Word of Mouth. Some of the movies in that time period does deserve the press. Most didn't. Spawn The Crow Salvation Witchblade Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger IV Hellboy Son of the Mask The Crow Wicked Prayer Sky High 300 Zoom Underdog El Muerto Jumper Hancock Helboy 2 The Spirit Steel Catwoman Batman Begins Superman Returns The Dark Knight Blade Xmen Blade 2 Spiderman DAredevil X2 Hulk The Punisher Spiderman 2 Blade Trinity Elktra Fantastic 4 X3 Ghost Rider Spiderman 3 Rise of the Silver Surfer Ironman The Incredible Hulk Punisher Warzone In that decade I found 40 Superhero/Comic Book Movies and I would say what 4-5 Great 5 more good and the rest blah. You fondly remember the good and great movies and conveniently forget the rest is telling. If you are doing it actively then it's just another trick to troll people. If it's subconscious it's telling of the type of person you are also. Am not a troll. I am mostly with scorsese and have backed up my opinions with merits. one merit would be mcu movies look like video games and are too childish. those are merited reasons.
You don't make thor an ass clown.
Also drop the opinion nonsense. Ha, some of you mcu fans are a real piece of work. scorsese is all about opinions but you mcu fans worship this brainless critics praising your mcu movies when they know these movies are artistic crap.
you found 40 movies and only about 4-5 are great? I can count 8 like X2, X1, Blade, Blade 2, Spiderman 1, spiderman 2, tdk, bb from marvel and DC alone that shits on your mcu movies were not one is great.
what are mcu fans standard for great? Endgame is childish and pathetic to many xmen and dc fans because of greats like dofp and flash point? I would not want to hear of mcu fans definition of great as they think Disney theme parks comic films that have destroyed the superhero genre are the greatest.
Wow all that and you completely ignore all of Vassago's points and go in your usual rhetoric of calling MCU childish and dumb. You are a special kind of stupid and biased.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Oct 24, 2019 20:09:56 GMT
Martin Scorsese is one of the greatest filmmakers in history, but we all know that he's salty because he has to beg for funding now while CBMs are making billions of dollars.
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Post by merh on Oct 26, 2019 17:26:42 GMT
He has lunched another fresh attack on Marvel movies. he thinks it is unfortunate the young people today thinks mcu and comic movies are cinema.
This guy is not backing down. where were this comments from 1998-2008?
I guess they were not necessary.
I know it's a typo & I do too many, but Scorsese lunching a fresh attack is such a funny image. He is upset he's not the big thing he once was. He is a dinosaur that can't evolve. Doesnt mean he's less talented, but that he cannot adapt to the new way Hollywood operates. This isn't because of Superhero films. It's where Blockbuster has brought us. Home video created the idea of "I can watch this at home for less than the price of a movie ticket" & HBO created "I'll wait for it to hit tv in less than a year." Netflix created "I pay this channel to watch whatever I want. Stream movies, so why go to a theater for the average movie that will be on Netflix? I don't have to deal with the crying baby in the row behind me, the child beside me asking daddy "why did he do that?", the couple on the other side fighting or getting busy, or the oerson in front of me on his phone so the light distracts from the film?" Something I also blame on Blockbuster. The home market broke people. They got used to takking watching videos so they do it in the theaters. What's the difference? However, faced with $15 movie tickets, people pick & choose the films they pay to see. Why the bitching about superheroes? There are more horror films than in the past. What used to straight to video seems to swing for a couple weeks in the theater so they are also "ruining" modern audiences.
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Post by merh on Oct 26, 2019 17:31:29 GMT
Scorsese is awesome but he would shut up when the Disney goons stops trying to take him down. Obviously this guy is very irritated with mcu movies. MCU fans have you ever seen Hugo? one of the few movies Scorsese did need CGI. it was awesome. Great cinematography, Great editing, awesome practical effects wonders. it did not look like a game and the main characters were kids. I think that is a disgrace to the MCU because the main characters in MCU are adults but they look more animated than Hugo characters. I am not kidding, its for real. This is more cinema. Endgame is more theme park Oh, you mean a film I have owned on blu-ray for several years now? It's actually one of his more watchable films. Most are more of a slog. I watch films to relax. Unwind. Not dense stuff Scorcese makes. I have to be in the mood to watch something like that , after a day of dealing with convicted felons telling me why they can't do what the judge ordered them to do a year ago, no. I lean fantasy/horror. Mythology. Not glorifications of Italian mobsters.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 27, 2019 0:56:19 GMT
I've noticed I've changed my viewing habits with movies over the last decade or so. I used to go to the movies 2 to 3 times a month even if there wasn't something I was specifically wanting to see. I/we would decide when we got there. I don't do that anymore. I have to really want to see a film to get me to go out. With streaming, directv, and dvd's playing on a 64" HD Tv, with 5.1 surround sound in my living room I can wait for most movies.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 27, 2019 7:29:24 GMT
There is a difference between bad movies in a genre and a series that has ruined a genre.
X3 for example is bad movie in the genre but many directors have bad movies too. MCU is ruining a genre. there is a difference. a big one.
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