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Post by dazz on Oct 27, 2019 8:15:19 GMT
There is a difference between bad movies in a genre and a series that has ruined a genre. X3 for example is bad movie in the genre but many directors have bad movies too. MCU is ruining a genre. there is a difference. a big one. How is it ruining a genre when the success of the MCU by and large is what has kept most studios making more cbm's even when their last ones failed?
20 years ago flops the likes of BVS, TASM2 or Justice League would have caused studios to pack up shop and leave cbm's in the dust, but the MCU keeps showing their is life and money to be made in the genre, it has repeatedly elevated the heights in which these films can reach which in turn has encouraged more and more movies to be made by the various studios, hell more niche comic properties have received interest due to the popularity of the genre the MCU has brought, what almost ruined the genre was when we only got one movie a year and if that bombed all the studios shit their pants and backed away.
You don't like the MCU everyone is painfully aware of that, but you disliking the movies does not mean they are ruining the genre, as pointed out repeatedly to you the genre has found itself booming since the MCU's inception, a larger % are hits since it's creation than were before it's creation, and there are twice as many films in the 10 years after it's creation than the 10 years prior.
So get of your misguided soapbox and quit your whining.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 27, 2019 14:29:19 GMT
Now he's backtracking. Probably scared Feige will send Silvermane and the Maggia after him. "The tentpole films, the big comic book films, they're theme park movies - as well done as many of them are, at all levels. It's a different cinema form or a new art form entirely. We're hoping there are theaters that show the films that are not that. And that if they're not going to show it that filmmakers still have an opportunity with streaming - it changes the experience, but otherwise, in two to three years now, it's not being done. A good filmmaker comes in from Italy or France comes in, the film has to be a [franchise] or they won't do it anymore."movieweb.com/marvel-mcu-comments-martin-scorsese-clarification/
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 27, 2019 17:37:04 GMT
What is this buzz word "theme park movie"? What does that even mean?
Indiana Jones, Jaws, the Universal Monsters, King Kong, Jurassic Park, Star Wars. These and countless others have all been the inspiration for theme park attractions for years. Does that mean there is something wrong with thee movies?
From the context, it seems that "theme park movie" is just another name for adventure movie.
I also don't know what he is so afraid of. All he has to do is look at box office mojo or any other movie tracking site to see that all types of movies are being widely released in large numbers and all the large tentpole films still make up a relatively small percentage of total films released.
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Post by dazz on Oct 27, 2019 20:53:14 GMT
What is this buzz word "theme park movie"? What does that even mean? Indiana Jones, Jaws, the Universal Monsters, King Kong, Jurassic Park, Star Wars. These and countless others have all been the inspiration for theme park attractions for years. Does that mean there is something wrong with thee movies? From the context, it seems that "theme park movie" is just another name for adventure movie. I also don't know what he is so afraid of. All he has to do is look at box office mojo or any other movie tracking site to see that all types of movies are being widely released in large numbers and all the large tentpole films still make up a relatively small percentage of total films released.He's afraid of admitting the truth that the reason The Irishman wasn't a studio movie was because of him being ridiculous, he's claimed the tentpole films have made such movies undesirable, completely ignoring the fact that it was going to be a $150m studio movie until his budget began ballooning before the movie even started filming, so then the international distributors pulled funding which caused the domestic distributors to do so as well leaving him without funding, and that Netflix offered him the most money which included outbidding several studios that would give him a theatrical release, Scorsese doesn't want to admit he spent himself out of a studio release and he took the streaming money.
It's the ignorant idea he and many others have that streaming is a lesser venture than studio movies, when it's like no you dumb old shit streaming means less restrictions and more eyeballs, more people will likely see The Irishman in the first week of release than many of his other movies were ever seen in theatrical releases.
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Post by thenolan on Oct 27, 2019 21:52:42 GMT
What is this buzz word "theme park movie"? What does that even mean? Indiana Jones, Jaws, the Universal Monsters, King Kong, Jurassic Park, Star Wars. These and countless others have all been the inspiration for theme park attractions for years. Does that mean there is something wrong with thee movies? From the context, it seems that "theme park movie" is just another name for adventure movie. I also don't know what he is so afraid of. All he has to do is look at box office mojo or any other movie tracking site to see that all types of movies are being widely released in large numbers and all the large tentpole films still make up a relatively small percentage of total films released. theme parks.
fun colours jokes not taking things seriously
that is what it means. one of disney's most important goals is to keep their theme parks like Disney land and Disney world going. MCU movies are good advertising tools for that.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 28, 2019 0:27:06 GMT
So Jaws isn't serious and Iron Mans death wasn't taken seriously. Only an idiot could believe that. Btw theme parks have attractions that inspire many different emotions and many of them require as much skill and creativity as making movies.
But Scorsese before he back tracked only wanted movies that felt like funerals rather than theme parks.
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Post by dazz on Oct 28, 2019 0:30:39 GMT
What is this buzz word "theme park movie"? What does that even mean? Indiana Jones, Jaws, the Universal Monsters, King Kong, Jurassic Park, Star Wars. These and countless others have all been the inspiration for theme park attractions for years. Does that mean there is something wrong with thee movies? From the context, it seems that "theme park movie" is just another name for adventure movie. I also don't know what he is so afraid of. All he has to do is look at box office mojo or any other movie tracking site to see that all types of movies are being widely released in large numbers and all the large tentpole films still make up a relatively small percentage of total films released. theme parks.
fun colours jokes not taking things seriously
that is what it means. one of disney's most important goals is to keep their theme parks like Disney land and Disney world going. MCU movies are good advertising tools for that.
Except he isn't just talking about MCU movies, how can you not get that through your pea brain? Scorsese has claimed these "theme park" movies take up too much of the landscape of film, that the abundance of such films make movies like his unable to get theatrical releases, but the MCU produces all of 3 films a year at best, Disney has got a slate of what 8 or 9 movies this year? hardly boxing anyone out, Scorsese is referring to all these big tentpole franchise blockbusters, which include the likes Fox, Sony & WB aka Spidey, X-Men & DC, all of which have varying tones to them.
You have no actual clue what he is talking about because you do not listen, you take snippets and you wrap them around your own narrative because you are a 1 note dingbat, if you shut your gob and opened your ears for once you would get this stuff, or if you know pulled you head out of your arse for a moment.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 28, 2019 13:05:09 GMT
There is a difference between bad movies in a genre and a series that has ruined a genre. X3 for example is bad movie in the genre but many directors have bad movies too. MCU is ruining a genre. there is a difference. a big one. Stop lying.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Oct 28, 2019 13:46:23 GMT
But he really likes the view he has.
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