MCU should make an R rated movie

Who are the ones saying R Rated movies based on comic books can't work? I've never heard that before with discussion of the Joker movie, most debates I've ran into talk about the need for an origin story when the character is usually presented as absolute and not having any definitive for a backstory.

Watchmen actually flopped at the box office. Just saying...

I definitely think it’s Deadpool that proved an R rated comic movie can work. That’s why Logan is so awesome and probably why Joker is even a thing.

But yeah it’d be cool if MCU made something like Joker. They treaded those waters with their Netflix shows so why not in the movies?

I think the tone is more important than including any elements that would make it an R-rating  - gore, swearing, smoking, explicit torture or taking drugs.

Bourne & later Bond films managed without R-Ratings.

Personally I'd be more pissed off if he wasn't British (which he probably won't be again) than any rating I take no notice of and would probaby not be the same in the country I am in.

His stories were not especially gory in Tomb Of Dracula and in some of the team titles.  The gore only really took of post movie

There are plenty of reasons why it doesn't have to be r-rated (I don't mind either way)...more than why it should.

As I said....I don't care if it's R-Rated or not, but I'm not going to insist it should be, and assume before they have even announced a director let alone start filming, that it needs to be.

Why it makes sense not to be R-Rated - to appeal to a wider audience, to allow a wider audience, franchise continuity and yes "selling toys".

The whole Joker did so Blade could as well argument makes no sense.  Blade will be part of a series, a franchise.  Joker is removed from any other DC franchise or series, and it's likely that it will remain that way - it's a story about a man who dresses as a clown and then loses it...as far as I know The Joker was never a clown of any sort before he turned to crime, there was never a character called Fleck...it's a "Joker" film in name only with Wayne and Gotham thrown in.  It's isolated from the DC universe.  Blade will not be isolated from the MCU unless there are plans not yet released.

But it's just a valid argument as one that says it should be r-rated  because the later books are more violent....books influenced by the earlier film which ignored much of the characters comic history - Blade didn't actually have any powers, other than bite immunity,  until after the film was released


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The origins of the Joker from Wikipedia: 

Batman: The Killing Joke (1988) built on the Joker's 1951 origin story, portraying him as a failed comedian pressured into committing crime as the Red Hood to support his pregnant wife. Batman's interference causes him to leap into a chemical vat, which disfigures him. This, combined with the trauma of his wife's earlier accidental death, causes him to go insane and become the Joker.[25] However, the Joker says that this story may not be true, as he prefers his past to be "multiple choice".[67] In this graphic novel, the Joker shoots and paralyzes Barbara Gordon and tortures her father, Commissioner James Gordon, to prove that it only takes one bad day to drive a normal man insane.[53] After Batman rescues Gordon and subdues the Joker, he offers to rehabilitate his old foe and end their rivalry. Although the Joker refuses, he shows his appreciation by sharing a joke with Batman.[68] Following the character's maiming of Barbara, she became a more important character in the DC Universe: Oracle, a data gatherer and superhero informant, who has her revenge in Birds of Prey by shattering the Joker's teeth and destroying his smile.[53]

But yeah, all of these characters are open to alternative tellings. That’s been the tradition of comics from the beginning. There are multiple versions of the Joker just as there are multiple versions of Batman. The latest in bookstores is where Joker is an antihero fighting the corrupt billionaire Bruce Wayne. 

I d respect your Argument more if you had legit Concerns. I brought Joker up because it puts all these concerns to rest. Joker got a wider audience with an r rating which you guys think is impossible. Toys shouldn't be a concern,Todd Phillips himself said he had to fight for a r rating with those concerns which paid off in the end. An r rated movie could make a billion in the future if that's a concernm Blade should be in a new canon if they aren't gonna give him or any of the mature characters r ratings in the current

It's possible for it to work without an R rating. It might have to rely more on story and characters though. Nixing some of the blood/gore and cursing. (And the MPAA has always been more hung up on Sex/Nudity, then cursing, and finally violence and gore. Which always spoke volumes about their Puritanical Mindset to me. Sex and Boobies are BAD!!!!) Adding those to a story has always been used as a cheap way by lesser stories to evoke emotion and add to the "cool" factor. A way to turbo charge the story and characters past any blemishes. If nudity/cursing/violence is used in service of the story then all is good. If it's used to prop the the story up it is a cynical party trick used by movie makers. So yeah it could work without an R rating, but it puts more pressure on the Writers, Directors, and Actors to make it work.