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Post by lordquesterjones on Dec 2, 2019 22:07:36 GMT
Not exactly, but that's pretty much the ending, if I remember it correctly. Not 'All A Dream', but it didn't really happen scenario. It was a 'did really happen' scenario, though. The survivors used their powers to erase their memories of the events that occurred. Go read the Wikipedia article and refresh your memory. Hmmmmmm. So a sort of 'It Was All A Dream' scenario then!? That's just sloppy writing. That's how used to end my stories I had to write when I was at school. Couldn't think of a proper ending; it was all a dream.
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Post by jackspicer on Dec 2, 2019 22:09:40 GMT
It was a 'did really happen' scenario, though. The survivors used their powers to erase their memories of the events that occurred. Go read the Wikipedia article and refresh your memory. Hmmmmmm. So a sort of 'It Was All A Dream' scenario then!? That's just sloppy writing. That's how used to end my stories I had to write when I was at school. Couldn't think of a proper ending; it was all a dream. I don't know how you're getting the equation that Choosing to Forget Events = All a Dream , but OK. Enjoy being wrong.
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Post by lordquesterjones on Dec 2, 2019 22:14:21 GMT
Hmmmmmm. So a sort of 'It Was All A Dream' scenario then!? That's just sloppy writing. That's how used to end my stories I had to write when I was at school. Couldn't think of a proper ending; it was all a dream. I don't know how you're getting the equation that Choosing to Forget Events = All a Dream , but OK. Enjoy being wrong. Fair enough. It wasn't the best sci-fi book I've ever read, but it wasn't the worst either.
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Post by spiderwort on Dec 19, 2019 1:14:30 GMT
I've wanted for decades to do an adaption of Faulkner's novella, "The Bear." But Faulkner doesn't adapt easily, and I think it would be a very hard sell. Same with Sherwood Anderson's "Winesburg, Ohio," though it might, with care, make a terrific limited series. But, again, the adaptation would be hard. Here's one that I think would make a good film that wouldn't be hard to adapt, though: "The Voyage of the Narwhal" by Andrea Barrett, the story of a ship that sets sail for the Arctic in the mid-nineteenth century to look for a crew that disappeared a decade before. It would probably cost a lot to make, but it would be good one to see. And this one: "Strait is the Gate," by Andre Gide. I'm surprised it's never been done. And another that I'm surprised hasn't already been done: "A Burnt-Out Case" by Graham Greene. Also, I'd like to see an adaptation of W. H. Hudson's "Green Mansions" that does the wonderful novel justice. The 1959 adaptation is an abject failure, in my opinion. Finally, "Stillwater," by William Weld (yes, that William Weld), a wonderful story about small towns in western Massachusetts being destroyed in the 1930s in order to build the Quabbin reservoir. Reminiscent of Kazan's WILD RIVER in some ways, but with different kinds of subplots. I think it could make a very interesting film.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 1, 2020 16:45:46 GMT
Don’t think I’ve mentioned this yet, but I’ve long had an idea for adapting three Ellery Queen mystery-novels ( Halfway House, Ten Days’ Wonder, and Cat of Many Tails, and those three for a specific reason) into a movie trilogy. The reason (major spoiler for Ten Days’ Wonder, not really for the others): The first movie would be a fun mystery movie, like Death on the Nile or the recent Knives Out, no real meaning or subtext other than just telling a good story and setting up Ellery, the brilliant detective character, as seemingly infallible.
Thus the second one, in which Ellery fails miserably: not only does he get the identity of the killer wrong, but also his erroneous deductions (set up by the real murderer) cause the wrongly-accused murderer’s suicide. This, I think, would be a major surprise for the audience and also indicate the difficulty of knowing anything for certain, an intriguing theme that undercuts the very point of classical mysteries, the search for absolute truth.
It doesn’t end there, though: Cat of Many Tails shows Ellery utterly broken after Wonder’s failure, refusing to investigate any kind of case but getting roped into his father’s investigation of a serial killer case. This movie would split the difference between the first and second one, arguing that whether or not there is an absolute truth, we do have to behave as if there is one.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 5, 2020 0:34:48 GMT
I'd love a documentary/found footage style version of World War Z.
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Post by Morgana on Apr 6, 2020 12:24:56 GMT
I would love to see a TV series, or film adaptation of a few of Mary Renault's novels.
Such as these two which are a wonderful realization of the myths of Theseus: The Bull From the Sea The King Must Die
And the Alexander the Great trilogy: Fire From Heaven The Persian Boy Funeral Games
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Post by Zos on Apr 6, 2020 15:40:02 GMT
Someone should adapt Sphere by Michael Crichton into a movie that's actually good. I didn't see the movie, but I was disappointed to learn that a movie had been made of the book, and it sucked. Maybe some Garth Nix stuff (young adult fantasy) could work as anime. Might be an idea to actually watch it yourself. Judging things based on what others think can lead to missing out on quite a few things.
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Post by Zos on Apr 6, 2020 15:44:34 GMT
Blood Meridian really needs to be filmed.
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Post by mmexis on Apr 8, 2020 1:33:45 GMT
I would say Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel. But I think we're all living it now....
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Post by jackspicer on Apr 8, 2020 6:18:14 GMT
Someone should adapt Sphere by Michael Crichton into a movie that's actually good. I didn't see the movie, but I was disappointed to learn that a movie had been made of the book, and it sucked. Maybe some Garth Nix stuff (young adult fantasy) could work as anime. Might be an idea to actually watch it yourself. Judging things based on what others think can lead to missing out on quite a few things. Yeah, but we have a limited amount of time on this earth. I can't justify spending time on a film rated 6.1 on IMDb when there are many films rated 8.0+ that I haven't seen.
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Post by Nalkarj on May 6, 2020 14:07:52 GMT
I wonder if adapting George Bernard Shaw’s The Apple Cart as an operetta would work. It’s an entertaining play, a comedy about a figurehead king who’s far more democratic than his supposedly democratically-elected ministers, who actually rule the country. While all that seems prime material for an operetta, and the satire somewhat recalls W.S. Gilbert, there isn’t much stage-action; the characters largely stand and give monologues—amusing, witty monologues, but monologues just the same—about politics.
Getting rid of the monologues, borrowing only some of Shaw’s best lines, and using the play’s plot for operetta would probably work, I think… There’s a history of that: Oscar Straus’ The Chocolate Soldier is based on Shaw’s Arms and the Man, but with none of Shaw’s dialogue used (by his demand). And, of course, musicalizing Shaw is nothing new (My Fair Lady).
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Post by theravenking on May 6, 2020 22:46:37 GMT
Don’t think I’ve mentioned this yet, but I’ve long had an idea for adapting three Ellery Queen mystery-novels ( Halfway House, Ten Days’ Wonder, and Cat of Many Tails, and those three for a specific reason) into a movie trilogy. The reason (major spoiler for Ten Days’ Wonder, not really for the others): The first movie would be a fun mystery movie, like Death on the Nile or the recent Knives Out, no real meaning or subtext other than just telling a good story and setting up Ellery, the brilliant detective character, as seemingly infallible.
Thus the second one, in which Ellery fails miserably: not only does he get the identity of the killer wrong, but also his erroneous deductions (set up by the real murderer) cause the wrongly-accused murderer’s suicide. This, I think, would be a major surprise for the audience and also indicate the difficulty of knowing anything for certain, an intriguing theme that undercuts the very point of classical mysteries, the search for absolute truth.
It doesn’t end there, though: Cat of Many Tails shows Ellery utterly broken after Wonder’s failure, refusing to investigate any kind of case but getting roped into his father’s investigation of a serial killer case. This movie would split the difference between the first and second one, arguing that whether or not there is an absolute truth, we do have to behave as if there is one. Out of this three I've only read Ten Day's Wonder. I do have a copy of Halfway House, but have somehow never gotten along to reading it.
I wonder, have you seen Claude Chabrol's version of Ten Day's Wonder (1971)? Chabrol was very impressed by the book, and even called it the best mystery he had ever read, because according to him it is one of the few cases where the solution is more interesting than the crime itself.
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Post by theravenking on May 6, 2020 22:51:26 GMT
Blood Meridian really needs to be filmed. I don't think any film-maker could do it justice. Although I think Ridley Scott who was once attached could've made a visually enthralling version. James Franco has expressed interest too. I was really impressed by The Disaster Artist, but I'm not sure he would be the right person for this.
McCarthy himself seems to favour John Hillcoat who has already adapted The Road.
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Post by Nalkarj on May 7, 2020 3:00:20 GMT
Don’t think I’ve mentioned this yet, but I’ve long had an idea for adapting three Ellery Queen mystery-novels ( Halfway House, Ten Days’ Wonder, and Cat of Many Tails, and those three for a specific reason) into a movie trilogy. The reason (major spoiler for Ten Days’ Wonder, not really for the others): The first movie would be a fun mystery movie, like Death on the Nile or the recent Knives Out, no real meaning or subtext other than just telling a good story and setting up Ellery, the brilliant detective character, as seemingly infallible.
Thus the second one, in which Ellery fails miserably: not only does he get the identity of the killer wrong, but also his erroneous deductions (set up by the real murderer) cause the wrongly-accused murderer’s suicide. This, I think, would be a major surprise for the audience and also indicate the difficulty of knowing anything for certain, an intriguing theme that undercuts the very point of classical mysteries, the search for absolute truth.
It doesn’t end there, though: Cat of Many Tails shows Ellery utterly broken after Wonder’s failure, refusing to investigate any kind of case but getting roped into his father’s investigation of a serial killer case. This movie would split the difference between the first and second one, arguing that whether or not there is an absolute truth, we do have to behave as if there is one. Out of this three I've only read Ten Day's Wonder. I do have a copy of Halfway House, but have somehow never gotten along to reading it.
I wonder, have you seen Claude Chabrol's version of Ten Day's Wonder (1971)? Chabrol was very impressed by the book, and even called it the best mystery he had ever read, because according to him it is one of the few cases where the solution is more interesting than the crime itself.
I haven’t seen it, actually, though I know it has Welles (apt casting) and Perkins (less apt). I like Chabrol, so there’s no reason I shouldn’t seek out the movie, but maybe it’s just that I’m afraid it won’t live up to the movie in my head… Can see what CC means by the solution’s being more interesting than the mystery, with all that musing on the justice of God. I’m not sure the writing quality quite lives up to the enormous metaphorical weightiness of the musings, but it’s nonetheless interesting that EQ goes there (though he/they had touched on the subject before, particularly with Drury Lane, and would return to it with the Dannay-plotted but ghostwritten Player on the Other Side and And on the Eighth Day). Cautiously recommending Halfway House… It’s better written than the early books, and the cluing’s more complex than, say, The Origin of Evil, which only really has one clue to its culprit. I didn’t guess the killer. That said, I’m kind of wary about rereading EQ now, after being so disappointed with The Four of Hearts and The Origin of Evil.
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Post by Zos on May 7, 2020 10:00:51 GMT
Blood Meridian really needs to be filmed. I don't think any film-maker could do it justice. Although I think Ridley Scott who was once attached could've made a visually enthralling version. James Franco has expressed interest too. I was really impressed by The Disaster Artist, but I'm not sure he would be the right person for this.
McCarthy himself seems to favour John Hillcoat who has already adapted The Road.
Who could play the Judge, that's the real question. In his prime I think daniel benzali could have given it a go. Hillcoat would be a good choice and also get you a great Nick Cave/Warren Ellis soundtrack.
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Post by amyghost on May 7, 2020 14:04:03 GMT
Some good adaptations of Flannery O'Connor, short stories and the two novels. I'll give John Huston's version of Wise Blood a thumbs up, though it still fell short for me in some ways. The Violent Bear It Away cries out for screen treatment, provided someone could successfully capture the extraordinarily surreal tone satisfactorily.
The only short story of hers I've seen was the version of The Displaced Person that ran on PBS years back. Good, though I felt it sentimentalized the source material a bit. There's a truly bad Fifties tv adaptation of The Life You Save May Be Your Own, starring, of all people, Gene Kelly; so awful that O'Connor despised it and commented on it briefly but hilariously in a couple of her letters.
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Post by theravenking on May 7, 2020 15:12:49 GMT
Out of this three I've only read Ten Day's Wonder. I do have a copy of Halfway House, but have somehow never gotten along to reading it.
I wonder, have you seen Claude Chabrol's version of Ten Day's Wonder (1971)? Chabrol was very impressed by the book, and even called it the best mystery he had ever read, because according to him it is one of the few cases where the solution is more interesting than the crime itself.
I haven’t seen it, actually, though I know it has Welles (apt casting) and Perkins (less apt). I like Chabrol, so there’s no reason I shouldn’t seek out the movie, but maybe it’s just that I’m afraid it won’t live up to the movie in my head… Can see what CC means by the solution’s being more interesting than the mystery, with all that musing on the justice of God. I’m not sure the writing quality quite lives up to the enormous metaphorical weightiness of the musings, but it’s nonetheless interesting that EQ goes there (though he/they had touched on the subject before, particularly with Drury Lane, and would return to it with the Dannay-plotted but ghostwritten Player on the Other Side and And on the Eighth Day). Cautiously recommending Halfway House… It’s better written than the early books, and the cluing’s more complex than, say, The Origin of Evil, which only really has one clue to its culprit. I didn’t guess the killer. That said, I’m kind of wary about rereading EQ now, after being so disappointed with The Four of Hearts and The Origin of Evil. Middling reviews have put me off from watching Ten Day's Wonder so far.
I tried reading the early Queens recently, The Roman Hat Mystery and The French Powder Mystery, but they are incredibly tough to get through.
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Post by Nalkarj on May 7, 2020 15:28:19 GMT
Middling reviews have put me off from watching Ten Day's Wonder so far.
I tried reading the early Queens recently, The Roman Hat Mystery and The French Powder Mystery, but they are incredibly tough to get through.
Very much so! I like the complex train of clues in French Powder, but the writing’s awful. Roman Hat is almost entirely awful. Greek Coffin used to be many mystery fans’ favorite Queen, and the four solutions are impressive, but I found it even harder to read than French Powder. The only two of the early books I actually liked, in fact, were Siamese Twin and Spanish Cape—and in both I guessed the solution early on. Alas.
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Post by Nalkarj on May 12, 2020 3:42:29 GMT
Not sure it would work, but I’m somewhat surprised no one’s tried musicalizing Somewhere in Time.
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