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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 16, 2019 23:30:31 GMT
Yes, I know that Sony already made a Venom movie, but that was a PG-13 superhero film that was made as part of a franchise. It’s a completely different beast from something like Joker. If you could pick one Marvel villain to have a standalone R-rated character study, who would it be?
For me, I think the answer would come down to either Dr. Doom or Magneto. Those two are generally held up as Marvel’s best villains, and they actually do have backstories that work without any superhero counterpart to work off of.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 23:51:28 GMT
I don't know. Of those two, I would have to say Doctor Doom because there's no undoing Magneto's origin story from the X-Men movie series. It is what it is, it's been done.
Doctor Doom I could see. I wish I knew more about him, but at surface level I would say he's a guy who surrounds himself with opulence and power because he's lived under someone else' boot before and he's never going back. The more he develops his power, the more territory he conquers and the more political headway he makes is all in pursuit of never being under someone's boot. Even his expression, his voice, everything he puts into him image says I'm too powerful to live under a boot, I'll make the world live under mine if that's what it takes.
Among all things that make Joker so powerful is the fact he's just a man. No mutations, no super strength or powers. He's just a dude. His pursuit of power and descent into madness has to reflect a true powerlessness to fight back any other way. His power isn't completely unlike Batman's. He employs fear. Joker's character is an avatar for everything that could go wrong at any time.
They did a really good job with Wilson Fisk in the Daredevil series.
I dunno. I'm all ears for suggestions too.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Nov 17, 2019 0:20:22 GMT
We already got Magneto in the FOX X-Men movies. A very grown up, mature, deep and intense depiction.
Doctor Doom is the only other mature supervillain and the only one suitable for a Joker-type movie.
Electro, Thanos, Vuture, Ultron... great action figures.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 17, 2019 1:02:14 GMT
Doom would be great.
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Post by hobowar on Nov 17, 2019 4:58:00 GMT
Not sure, but Joker, Venom and Suicide Squad have taught me to ignore these types of movies.
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Post by Archelaus on Nov 17, 2019 5:04:02 GMT
Dr. Doom
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Post by maxwellperfect on Nov 17, 2019 6:17:16 GMT
Norman Osbourne would be the only one that could work in this kind of movie.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Nov 18, 2019 0:30:46 GMT
Not sure, but Venom has taught me to ignore these types of movies. Just fixed that for you.
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Post by thenewnexus on Nov 18, 2019 14:04:32 GMT
Carnage Elektra(During Her Assassin Storyline) Dr Doom Magneto Kingpin
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Post by politicidal on Nov 18, 2019 18:02:30 GMT
Osborne isn't a bad choice. Honesty, Mystique can be interesting.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 18, 2019 20:36:39 GMT
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 18, 2019 21:19:49 GMT
Doctor Doom but it's hard to picture him driving around in a cab and seeing a social worker.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Nov 24, 2019 17:35:26 GMT
They pretty much already did it with Kingpin on the Daredevil TV show.
Maybe Doc Ock, Kraven, or the Mandarin. Probably a much better version of Jigsaw than we saw on The Punisher TV show.
But I'm going to throw this out there... J. Jonah Jameson.
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Post by merh on Nov 24, 2019 22:48:46 GMT
Loki's getting a series.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 26, 2019 21:35:23 GMT
Dr Doom was the best choice. MCU would never let Hawley makes his Dr Doom movie.
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Post by blockbusted on Nov 26, 2019 23:19:45 GMT
Dr Doom was the best choice. MCU would never let Hawley makes his Dr Doom movie. Based on the fact that Hawley's first feature film turned out to be an utter embarrassment, I don't think that's a bad decision.
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Post by scabab on Nov 29, 2019 21:00:33 GMT
Doctor Doom could make for a good movie. It'd be a good choice to do if they ever wanted to make him a big bad.
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Post by James on Nov 29, 2019 21:13:18 GMT
Magneto would be awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 4:02:29 GMT
None, Joker was shit
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 3, 2019 22:48:56 GMT
Stilt Man!
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