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Post by mattgarth on Dec 2, 2019 23:25:34 GMT
Oh -- then YOU'RE the only GG Player who doesn't get TCM!
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 2, 2019 23:30:42 GMT
Watching King of Kings now. The silent was superior
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 3, 2019 1:09:38 GMT
Now the Silent Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ. i don't think it's better than the 1959 but, damn, the Chariot Race is impressive. But I love the Silents and might be biased. I wonder if William Wyler didn't have help from some involved in the 1924 version. There had to be people still alive who worked on it.
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Post by claudius on Dec 3, 2019 1:29:28 GMT
Both Wyler and. Manager J J Cohn were involved in both versions. I think May McAvoy the original Esther is among the extras (as a hobby, not out of necessity).
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 3, 2019 1:31:07 GMT
Now the Silent Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ. i don't think it's better than the 1959 but, damn, the Chariot Race is impressive. But I love the Silents and might be biased. I wonder if William Wyler didn't have help from some involved in the 1924 version. There had to be people still alive who worked on it.Indeed, and one of them was Wyler himself (as an AD on the sequence). For my money, the first has it all over the '59 for that scene. I've always found it far more visceral, immediate and harrowing.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 3, 2019 1:40:08 GMT
vs. Charleston Cheston … guess who gets my vote Here he is with Francis X. Bushman FXB was on a Perry Mason and still recognizable !
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 3, 2019 1:53:40 GMT
FXB was on a Perry Mason and still recognizable ! He sure was; three of them, in fact (and a Burns and Allen in which he played himself). And we finally got to hear that marvelous speaking voice. Can't imagine why he wasn't bigger in talkies.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 3, 2019 2:00:06 GMT
Doghouse6 I need to look up more about FXB.. must have seen him in other things thru the years, a bitto trivia re 1925 Ben-Hur … they had one of the chariots on display at the Montreal World's Fair in the US pavilion .. it was where you could see it from the escalator... I kept going up and down to see the chariot... Not sure why it caught my fancy but THERE it was .. real and in person ! MOM just sat and waited for me to get over it !
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 3, 2019 2:07:10 GMT
Doghouse6 I need to look up more about FXB.. must have seen him in other things thru the years, a bitto trivia re 1925 Ben-Hur … they had one of the chariots on display at the Montreal World's Fair in the US pavilion .. it was where you could see it from the escalator... I kept going up and down to see the chariot... Not sure why it caught my fancy but THERE it was .. real and in person ! MOM just sat and waited for me to get over it ! Oh, I can understand. That's something I'd very much like to see. Amazing even one survived!
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 3, 2019 2:23:55 GMT
Doghouse6 I need to look up more about FXB.. must have seen him in other things thru the years, a bitto trivia re 1925 Ben-Hur … they had one of the chariots on display at the Montreal World's Fair in the US pavilion .. it was where you could see it from the escalator... I kept going up and down to see the chariot... Not sure why it caught my fancy but THERE it was .. real and in person ! MOM just sat and waited for me to get over it ! Oh, I can understand. That's something I'd very much like to see. Amazing even one survived! I think about that sometimes when I watching a Silent. "All the people are gone, all the crew and probably all the props. Costumes, furniture vehicles, all gone. The Silents to me are almost like ghosts. Yeah many movies too, but Ghosts shouldn't talk.
FX did a lot of TV. Dobie Gillis, Ozzie and Harriet. His pentultime role was in Batman, where the Riddler was stealing priceless Silent films.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 3, 2019 2:52:39 GMT
TheGoodMan19 WILL for sure watch for that one … not a regular Batman viewer but shall keep an eye out for it !
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 3, 2019 4:01:00 GMT
TheGoodMan19 WILL for sure watch for that one … not a regular Batman viewer but shall keep an eye out for it ! Episodes are Death in Slow Motion and The riddler's False Notion. Only Batman I loved was the 60's campy Bat. Frank Gorshin was brilliant as the Riddler
Then there was Julie Newmar. Oy
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 3, 2019 4:27:32 GMT
TheGoodMan19 Frank Gorshin = another one of my favs … serious or funny or doing impressions ! I like the TV Batman in small doses .. used to try to be home for the two night episodes back in the day. Missed a lot of them it seems. That salute they gave Adam West when he died by shining the Bat signal was super nice !
I just had to take a look at where we were … remakes on TCM .. ah, yes, I remember now ! off the track again .. sorry marshamae !
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 3, 2019 14:25:33 GMT
Oh, I can understand. That's something I'd very much like to see. Amazing even one survived! I think about that sometimes when I watching a Silent. "All the people are gone, all the crew and probably all the props. Costumes, furniture vehicles, all gone. The Silents to me are almost like ghosts. Yeah many movies too, but Ghosts shouldn't talk.
I think about things like that too, but in a more general sense. Whenever I'd walk onto a sound stage, I'd think of all the "places" that had existed there before, and how briefly. The Gale farm, Munchkinland and the Emerald City, for example, would all have ceased to exist - struck to make way for other sets for other films - long before audiences ever saw them onscreen in The Wizard Of Oz. Even when brand new, such images were already "ghosts." Sets on any Los Angeles area stages were a fitting microcosmic analogy for the ever-changing, tear-down-happy town surrounding them.
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Post by teleadm on Dec 3, 2019 19:04:32 GMT
FXB in Sabrina 1954 FXB as Chief Clive Anderson in Dick Tracy 1937 15-parter
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 3, 2019 19:40:34 GMT
FXB in Sabrina 1954 FXB as Chief Clive Anderson in Dick Tracy 1937 15-parter There's so much written about the downfall of the Silent stars. Accents, Emil Jannings, Pola Negri, Morals, Clara Bow, Louise Brooks, Ramon Novarro. But there was no reason Bushman shouldn't have continued to be a movie star. Other than money.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 3, 2019 19:48:25 GMT
as many times as I Have seen Sabrina I never realized that was FX … thanks teleadm ! cool stuff : Was the first film actor to be called "King of the Movies." That label would, in later decades, be affixed to Clark Gable, where it still remains. He donated land to Sid Grauman, on which now sits Mann's (formerly Grauman's) Chinese Theatre in Hollywood, California. Although the nickname "King of the Movies" was eventually given to Clark Gable, it is engraved on Bushman's headstone in Los Angeles. Even more coolness His last feature (1966) a role in The Ghost in the Invisible Bikini
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Post by mattgarth on Dec 3, 2019 20:18:24 GMT
FXB appeared as himself in the 1951 film HOLLYWOOD STORY, that fictionally dealt with the (still to this day) unsolved murder of silent picture era director William Desmond Taylor.
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Post by london777 on Dec 4, 2019 0:47:45 GMT
FXB appeared as himself in the 1951 film HOLLYWOOD STORY, that fictionally dealt with the (still to this day) unsolved murder of silent picture era director William Desmond Taylor. Intrigued by this post, I found the film on YouTube with a decent print (if you ignore the Portuguese sub-titles). Not bad at all. One of William Castle's better directorial efforts in the days before he turned to horror+gimmicks. The weakest scene is when a number of old silent stars are introduced as themselves (Betty Blythe, William Farnum, Helen Gibson and Bushman) . The gaucheness of this made me admire Billy Wilder's way of doing the same (the previous year) all the more. This thread was about remakes (before the hijack) and the Taylor murder could now make a good neo-noir.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 4, 2019 1:01:54 GMT
As a former employee of "Big Blue" there was always an in-joke among the techies; IBM used to manufacture a mainframe called the IBM 9000 series. HAL9000 follows the alphabetic H/I, A/B and lastly L/M. Nice coincidence. and bravomailer and mattgarth I found this : Incrementing each letter of "HAL" gives you "IBM". Writer Arthur C. Clarke claimed this was unintentional, and if he had noticed ahead of time, he would have changed it. HAL stands for Heuristic Algorithmic Computer. IBM product placements appear in the movie as well, including the computer panels in the spaceplane that docks with the space station, the forearm control panel on Dave's spacesuit, and the portable viewscreens on which Dave and Frank watch "The World Tonight". More 2001 Trivia hereOnce upon a time there was some speculation on the other board as to whether or not 2001 could / should be remade .. no definitive decision was ever reached.
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