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Post by Cody™ on Dec 6, 2019 13:02:36 GMT
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Post by Lugh on Dec 6, 2019 13:06:48 GMT
OK?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 6, 2019 13:12:58 GMT
Yeah and many Christians tend to be from first world nations and rich families that allow them get more involved in academia, science, politics, etc compared to Hindus and Muslims. You do understand correlation vs causation, right? Was there a point you were trying to make?
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Post by clusium on Dec 6, 2019 13:18:00 GMT
Yeah and many Christians tend to be from first world nations and rich families that allow them get more involved in academia, science, politics, etc compared to Hindus and Muslims. You do understand correlation vs causation, right? Was there a point you were trying to make? There are a great many rich Hindus & Muslims too, as well as atheists (many of which are also from first world nations).
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Post by Catman on Dec 6, 2019 13:18:54 GMT
And curiously, none of them were raccoons.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 6, 2019 13:19:39 GMT
Yeah and many Christians tend to be from first world nations and rich families that allow them get more involved in academia, science, politics, etc compared to Hindus and Muslims. You do understand correlation vs causation, right? Was there a point you were trying to make? There are a great many rich Hindus & Muslims too, as well as atheists (many of which are also from first world nations). Yes, but overall numbers it's probably safe to assume there's more wealthy Christians than there are wealthy Hindus and Muslims.
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Post by Cody™ on Dec 6, 2019 13:34:11 GMT
Yeah and many Christians tend to be from first world nations and rich families that allow them get more involved in academia, science, politics, etc compared to Hindus and Muslims. You do understand correlation vs causation, right? Was there a point you were trying to make? Well the likes of China, Japan, Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Brunei and Singapore are all rich advanced countries. Muslims and Buddhists together still make up under 2% of winners. Also are you saying the people of those countries have less opportunities to get involved in politics?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 6, 2019 13:51:13 GMT
Yeah and many Christians tend to be from first world nations and rich families that allow them get more involved in academia, science, politics, etc compared to Hindus and Muslims. You do understand correlation vs causation, right? Was there a point you were trying to make? Well the likes of China, Japan, Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Brunei and Singapore are all rich advanced countries. Muslims and Buddhists together still make up under 2% of winners. Also are you saying the people of those countries have less opportunities to get involved in politics? China, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Singapore, and Qatar have a lot of wealth inequality (some obscenely rich people, a lot of poor people), so yes I would say that. And again, the overall number of wealthy Christians is probably still gonna be higher than wealthy Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists, Hindus, etc so it's rather moot if they have the same opportunity anyways. It should also be noted that for the longest time, the Nobel Peace Prizes were mostly given to people from predeominantly white nations, so of course it's gonna mostly be Christians. If you look at Nobel Peace Prize winners since 2000, the Christian winners drop quite a bit compared to the earlier years.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 6, 2019 14:15:22 GMT
And which of these scientists used their religious belief to achieve their scientific breakthroughs and how did they do that?
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Post by clusium on Dec 6, 2019 16:28:06 GMT
And curiously, none of them were raccoons. Think PETA should launch a protest on their (the raccoons) behalf.
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Post by clusium on Dec 6, 2019 16:32:04 GMT
There are a great many rich Hindus & Muslims too, as well as atheists (many of which are also from first world nations). Yes, but overall numbers it's probably safe to assume there's more wealthy Christians than there are wealthy Hindus and Muslims. Why....?  As Cody already noted, China (Buddhist & Confucianist), Kuwait (Muslim), Japan (Shinto & Buddhist), etc., are all very rich countries. I visited Kuwait 10 years ago myself, & saw how rich the country was.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 6, 2019 16:34:46 GMT
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Post by clusium on Dec 6, 2019 16:39:06 GMT
Tell that to St. Mother Teresa of Kolkata. Also, although he never won one, Gandhi was very religious, & frankly, I'm surprised he didn't win one.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 6, 2019 16:42:02 GMT
Tell that to St. Mother Teresa of Kolkata. Also, although he never won one, Gandhi was very religious, & frankly, I'm surprised he didn't win one. You do know what unlikely means right?
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Post by politicidal on Dec 6, 2019 16:45:31 GMT
So what, "fuck you to the Hindus and Muslims too then?
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Post by clusium on Dec 6, 2019 16:48:32 GMT
Tell that to St. Mother Teresa of Kolkata. Also, although he never won one, Gandhi was very religious, & frankly, I'm surprised he didn't win one. You do know what unlikely means right? Yeah.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 6, 2019 17:04:07 GMT
Yes, but overall numbers it's probably safe to assume there's more wealthy Christians than there are wealthy Hindus and Muslims. Why....? As Cody already noted, China (Buddhist & Confucianist), Kuwait (Muslim), Japan (Shinto & Buddhist), etc., are all very rich countries. I visited Kuwait 10 years ago myself, & saw how rich the country was. "Why....?"
Because first world countries tend to have Christianity as the largest religion and have less wealth inequality. Just because a country has a lot of wealth says nothing about how that wealth is distributed. Imagine a small poor town with 1000 people, the vast majority make about $20000-$30000 per year but one of the residents happens to be a multi billionaire. If you divived it all up per capita on paper everyone would be a "millionaire", even though that's clearly not accurate. You could argue the town has a lot "wealth" from the GDP per capita but obviously the wealth is narrowly concentrated in small percentage of the town. That's not a good reflection of how the general population is doing. Besides, I looked up religion and wealth on Wikipedia and they more or less backed up my claim:
According to a study from 2015, Christians hold the largest amount of wealth (55% of the total world wealth), followed by Muslims (5.8%), Hindus (3.3%), and Jews (1.1%). According to the same study it was found that adherents under the classification Irreligion or other religions hold about 34.8% of the total global wealth.[3]
"I visited Kuwait 10 years ago myself, & saw how rich the country was."
You probably went to the tourist part of Kuwait which is generally the nice part. That's not really a good way to get an idea of how a country is doing.
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Post by gadreel on Dec 6, 2019 19:57:02 GMT
Tell that to St. Mother Teresa of Kolkata. Also, although he never won one, Gandhi was very religious, & frankly, I'm surprised he didn't win one. What? One anecdote proves Nobel prize winners are Christian, and someone who never won a nobel prize but was religious also supports that nobel prize winners are Christian/religious. How was that even a post you thought would make sense?
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Post by clusium on Dec 6, 2019 19:58:07 GMT
Why....? As Cody already noted, China (Buddhist & Confucianist), Kuwait (Muslim), Japan (Shinto & Buddhist), etc., are all very rich countries. I visited Kuwait 10 years ago myself, & saw how rich the country was. "Why....?"
Because first world countries tend to have Christianity as the largest religion and have less wealth inequality. Just because a country has a lot of wealth says nothing about how that wealth is distributed. Imagine a small poor town with 1000 people, the vast majority make about $20000-$30000 per year but one of the residents happens to be a multi billionaire. If you divived it all up per capita on paper everyone would be a "millionaire", even though that's clearly not accurate. You could argue the town has a lot "wealth" from the GDP per capita but obviously the wealth is narrowly concentrated in small percentage of the town. That's not a good reflection of how the general population is doing. Besides, I looked up religion and wealth on Wikipedia and they more or less backed up my claim:
According to a study from 2015, Christians hold the largest amount of wealth (55% of the total world wealth), followed by Muslims (5.8%), Hindus (3.3%), and Jews (1.1%). According to the same study it was found that adherents under the classification Irreligion or other religions hold about 34.8% of the total global wealth.[3]
"I visited Kuwait 10 years ago myself, & saw how rich the country was."
You probably went to the tourist part of Kuwait which is generally the nice part. That's not really a good way to get an idea of how a country is doing.
First world countries have more & more people from non-christian nations emigrating in, & are very successful. When I went to Kuwait, I was staying with my brother's family (my brother works for the Canadian Government, & was stationed there at that time). Kuwait has oil (Persian Gulf War, anyone....?). There are a lot of very rich people in Kuwait.
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Post by clusium on Dec 6, 2019 19:59:11 GMT
Tell that to St. Mother Teresa of Kolkata. Also, although he never won one, Gandhi was very religious, & frankly, I'm surprised he didn't win one. What? One anecdote proves Nobel prize winners are Christian, and someone who never won a nobel prize but was religious also supports that nobel prize winners are Christian/religious. How was that even a post you thought would make sense? I was citing one example of a religious person receiving the Prize. Admittedly, in my post, Gandhi did not make the cut, even though I believe he should have.
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