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Post by Nora on Dec 10, 2019 0:41:53 GMT
" I have so much admiration for actors. It looks so effortless when it’s done right....." EXACTLY !! Most of us generally don't pay much attention to an actor or actress who is doing a decent job of acting, since that's what's expected......it's when it's bad, or REALLY bad that it tends to stand out like a sore thumb, and quickly becomes something very hard NOT to focus on.....  SAVE FERRIS Yep. Every time it doesn’t scream bad it’s already a. Great achievement and funnily enough then people don’t maybe even notice the artistry behind it. |
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Post by Nora on Dec 10, 2019 0:47:37 GMT
Acting (well) may be difficult compared to some "mindless" jobs, but there are much harder, certainly more admirable or draining jobs out there. Also anyone acting as a career, I imagine is at least enjoying it, no one's slogging away at an acting career because they couldn't make it as a labourer. I would try it if given the option. As far as what drives someone to do it, I think Sandman answered that. I think there is a Plenty Much less demanding jobs. For example those that don’t include public scrutiny. Or don’t require long hours of often close to unbearable conditions. Too hot too cold too long... all of that. Recreating and often also reliving traumatizing situations in front of other people. Sounds horrific. Brining vulnerability to the set and showing it to other people- that’s hard. Not to mention showing parts of your body to the world. I think it’s a job most see as glamorous without seeing the boring yet exhausting long hours of repetition and searching and beating your soul. And all the rejection oh so much rejection each actor has faced in their lives. And only the top 1% makes it. The rest is working two jobs, gives up or gets paid just ok money maybe for a decade or two before progressing anywhere. And they still do it. Respect. That’s real passion. Imagine being told no or you suck the first 1-2 decades of your professional life and getting paid shit or nothing for it. Would you really still do it? |
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Post by Nora on Dec 10, 2019 0:48:53 GMT
We all love movies and TV shows, but making them isn't easy - long hours (average 12-14 for a film, 15-16 for an hour-long TV show), periods of waiting around in a trailer while lights, cameras, sets, etc. are set up, having to do a scene more than once to shoot coverage, etc. Exactly. And much more than once. 10-12 times easy •. And exactly the same way each time or you are fucking up things for everybody. And all of this while a crowd of other people is staring at you hoping you don’t fuck you so they can wrap up and go home... |
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Post by Nora on Dec 10, 2019 0:50:02 GMT
Having done some back in the day, hell yeah. It's great. It can be tough work, but there's no high like feeling the audience react to your performance. I agree with the last part. It does give you a high like nothing else. But all of the other crap that goes hand to hand with it I am not sure it would be worth it for me to do long term. |
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Post by moonchild on Dec 10, 2019 0:52:55 GMT
I have so much admiration for actors. It looks so effortless when it’s done right but there is so much the person needs to invest in it. I honestly don’t know how they manage, especially doing dramas or emotionally very charged roles. The last three days I was watching someone perform such a vulnerable role, that I honestly don’t know how they go home and go to sleep without taking some pills or downing a few shots, after bringing such raw emotions onto the set, including real tears and all. I don’t know what exactly it is that drives someone to do this for a living I know I wouldn’t be able to do it but have the utmost admiration for those that do. If you had the talent and the option do you think you would choose to be an actor for a living? Never in a million years. I have too much anxiety and I don't see how they can memorize all that dialogue
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Post by movielover on Dec 10, 2019 1:00:04 GMT
Hell yeah
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Dec 10, 2019 1:39:28 GMT
GUESS who the first one to vote "HELL NO" was?!
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Post by Sandman on Dec 10, 2019 1:52:16 GMT
And much more than once. 10-12 times easy •. And exactly the same way each time or you are fucking up things for everybody. And all of this while a crowd of other people is staring at you hoping you don’t fuck you so they can wrap up and go home.That reminds me of the short "Its Me Sugar" starring Gemma Arterton as Marilyn Monroe. A recounting of the making of 'Some Like It Hot' starring Marilyn Monroe and directed by Billy Wilder - now regarded as one of the great comedies in the history of cinema. During filming, Marilyn was required to knock on a hotel room door and say the line: 'It's me. Sugar.' With Wilder; her co-stars, Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon, and her husband, Arthur Miller, looking on, Marilyn finally nails the line - e...after 47 takes.Very funny. You should check it out. 
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Post by Geddy on Dec 10, 2019 1:55:07 GMT
A hard job? Tell that to a coal miner.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Dec 10, 2019 2:00:17 GMT
A hard job? Tell that to a coal miner.
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Post by Geddy on Dec 10, 2019 2:11:02 GMT
A hard job? Tell that to a coal miner. Indeed. Acting is NOT a hard job. |
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Post by Nora on Dec 10, 2019 2:26:32 GMT
Tell THAT to a brain surgeon. Indeed. Acting is NOT a hard job. that just means you probably have not done it as a job and dont know how hard it is.... brain surgery is relying mostly on machines these days and its not even the most difficult area of medicine. coal mining must be very challenging physically yes. but so is acting. each in a different way but both very physically demandig. |
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Post by Sarge on Dec 10, 2019 2:26:59 GMT
A hard job? Tell that to a coal miner. Tell that to a rocket scientist. |
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Dec 10, 2019 2:43:57 GMT
Tell THAT to a brain surgeon.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Dec 10, 2019 4:48:46 GMT
Acting (well) may be difficult compared to some "mindless" jobs, but there are much harder, certainly more admirable or draining jobs out there. Also anyone acting as a career, I imagine is at least enjoying it, no one's slogging away at an acting career because they couldn't make it as a labourer. I would try it if given the option. As far as what drives someone to do it, I think Sandman answered that. I think there is a Plenty Much less demanding jobs. For example those that don’t include public scrutiny. Or don’t require long hours of often close to unbearable conditions. Too hot too cold too long... all of that. Recreating and often also reliving traumatizing situations in front of other people. Sounds horrific. Brining vulnerability to the set and showing it to other people- that’s hard. Not to mention showing parts of your body to the world. I think it’s a job most see as glamorous without seeing the boring yet exhausting long hours of repetition and searching and beating your soul. And all the rejection oh so much rejection each actor has faced in their lives. And only the top 1% makes it. The rest is working two jobs, gives up or gets paid just ok money maybe for a decade or two before progressing anywhere. And they still do it. Respect. That’s real passion. Imagine being told no or you suck the first 1-2 decades of your professional life and getting paid shit or nothing for it. Would you really still do it? The point is no one has to be an actor. No one is becoming an actor to support themselves or their family. As far as I’m concerned anyone getting paid to do something creative, that they love is in a privileged position. If they didn’t enjoy it, they wouldn’t be doing it. The struggle to get there is another thing, but again, if it’s that difficult and horrible, go and get a “real” job.
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Post by Nora on Dec 10, 2019 5:43:32 GMT
Tell that to a rocket scientist. machines do most of the surgeries these days. its not that complicated anymore. heart surgeons have it harder. |
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Post by Nora on Dec 10, 2019 5:45:21 GMT
I think there is a Plenty Much less demanding jobs. For example those that don’t include public scrutiny. Or don’t require long hours of often close to unbearable conditions. Too hot too cold too long... all of that. Recreating and often also reliving traumatizing situations in front of other people. Sounds horrific. Brining vulnerability to the set and showing it to other people- that’s hard. Not to mention showing parts of your body to the world. I think it’s a job most see as glamorous without seeing the boring yet exhausting long hours of repetition and searching and beating your soul. And all the rejection oh so much rejection each actor has faced in their lives. And only the top 1% makes it. The rest is working two jobs, gives up or gets paid just ok money maybe for a decade or two before progressing anywhere. And they still do it. Respect. That’s real passion. Imagine being told no or you suck the first 1-2 decades of your professional life and getting paid shit or nothing for it. Would you really still do it? The point is no one has to be an actor. No one is becoming an actor to support themselves or their family. As far as I’m concerned anyone getting paid to do something creative, that they love is in a privileged position. If they didn’t enjoy it, they wouldn’t be doing it. The struggle to get there is another thing, but again, if it’s that difficult and horrible, go and get a “real” job. no one has to be anything. peo chose what they become based on what they would like to and are able to do. its a real job. and a lot of those that want it xant keep it because how hard it is. |
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Dec 10, 2019 5:48:48 GMT
Brain surgery is HARDER than rocket science since you're dealing with someone's BRAIN. You have to be a LOT MORE careful.
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Post by Nora on Dec 10, 2019 6:14:47 GMT
Machines do most of the surgeries these days. It's not that complicated anymore. Heart surgeons have it harder. yes. That’s why they use robots who don’t make those mistakes for a lot of the procedures. Before robots? Sure. Also some of the “mistakes” are recoverable from and some of those surgeries you keep the patient awake to talk to you to ensure you are not cutting in the wrong place and from what I hear that’s quite helpful. After heart Spinal surgery are perhaps the trickiest. I hear from my doctor friends, including the brain surgeon (who also does the spinal ones). This is not to say these jobs are not demanding. Certainly are. Or there isn’t a lot of pressure. There certainly is. And Sure the risks are higher than for actors. Life’s vs bad reviews is of course incomparable. Butt the success odds at becoming a working surgeon vs working actor are really Really in favor of surgeons. |
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Post by poelzig on Dec 10, 2019 7:25:12 GMT
I was waiting for Nora to "subtly" inform everyone she is a licensed physician in Europe but never practiced medicine because she could save more lives with her various theatrical skills. I'm a bit disappointed she didn't go that route and opted instead for numerous "friends" who conveniently happen to be surgeons to prove her acting is harder than being a surgeon theory. Resisting creating the usual painfully obvious fictions is a step in a healthier direction at least and I applaud nora for it.
If you think acting is a hard job though you have led a very sheltered life and have no concept of what actual work is like on any level. Physical or mental.
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