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Post by politicidal on Dec 16, 2019 0:46:33 GMT
It looks great!
The latest poster looks nice.
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Post by Nora on Dec 17, 2019 19:39:10 GMT
loving it, very excited about this, looks great so far.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 17, 2019 19:41:29 GMT
loving it, very excited about this, looks great so far. Right?
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Post by Nora on Dec 17, 2019 21:21:10 GMT
loving it, very excited about this, looks great so far. Right? right. i would love if McGillis had a cameo there and understand she doesnt but other than that it looks Really solid.
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 18, 2019 14:44:32 GMT
Not a fan of the original but those flight scenes... They look great.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 18, 2019 18:59:20 GMT
Not a fan of the original but those flight scenes... They look great. Yeah, I credit them for actually flying real planes.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 18, 2019 22:19:52 GMT
I'm still on the fence.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 9, 2020 9:58:35 GMT
Doesn't look too shabby, but if Top Gun - 86', which is now derided as one of the most subversive gayest films to ever come out of Hollywood, I wonder what approach they are going to take here. Will they butch it up perhaps!? Jennifer Connelly looks like she has been regulated to the peripheral gf\partner role and to ensure that Maverick doesn't like to ride too much rear tail with the Iceman. I am not familiar with this critique; is it a serious one or a form of lampooning? For while I was much too young to have seen Top Gun upon its original release, I have viewed it three times in the theater over the last four years. In May 2016, while much of the audience clapped, I considered the film cringe-worthy and "lousy." Viewing it again in July 2018 and August 2019, my feelings proved paradoxical—I could not decide whether I considered Top Gun "lousy" or "mediocre" and thus settled for a "mediocre/lousy" assessment, which ostensibly makes no sense: how can a film be both "mediocre" and "lousy" at the same time? It should be one or the other. But while the dramatic quality and stylistic nature of Top Gun strike me as scarcely better than a Baywatch-style TV soap opera—it is heavy-handed, telegraphed, and overbearing, as one might expect from the late director Tony Scott—the film also has this conviction and confidence about it, as if the filmmakers thought that they were making the best movie since Gone with the Wind. The result is that there is a strangely compelling and alluring vibe to Top Gun, even though part of me feels dirty and nearly nauseous just thinking about it. And, of course, the production values are top-notch, which helps the movie. Top Gun constitutes a very curious cinematic experience, which is ironic given the banal approach to its material, material that could have been quite sobering and serious in a less commercial context.
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Post by kevin on Jan 13, 2020 11:54:14 GMT
I'm not a fan of the original, but this looks pretty good tbh. Not sure what the plot is about, but Tom Cruise seems to age like wine. The older he gets, the better the project he's attached to are. It's been 2 years and I'm still completely amazed by M:I - Fallout.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 17, 2020 5:46:05 GMT
I am not familiar with this critique; is it a serious one or a form of lampooning? For while I was much too young to have seen Top Gun upon its original release, I have viewed it three times in the theater over the last four years. In May 2016, while much of the audience clapped, I considered the film cringe-worthy and "lousy." Viewing it again in July 2018 and August 2019, my feelings proved paradoxical—I could not decide whether I considered Top Gun "lousy" or "mediocre" and thus settled for a "mediocre/lousy" assessment, which ostensibly makes no sense: how can a film be both "mediocre" and "lousy" at the same time? It should be one or the other. But while the dramatic quality and stylistic nature of Top Gun strike me as scarcely better than a Baywatch-style TV soap opera—it is heavy-handed, telegraphed, and overbearing, as one might expect from the late director Tony Scott—the film also has this conviction and confidence about it, as if the filmmakers thought that they were making the best movie since Gone with the Wind. The result is that there is a strangely compelling and alluring vibe to Top Gun, even though part of me feels dirty and nearly nauseous just thinking about it. And, of course, the production values are top-notch, which helps the movie. Top Gun constitutes a very curious cinematic experience, which is ironic given the banal approach to its material, which could have been quite sobering and serious in a less commercial context. John Carpenter turned down directing it due to what he saw as homoeroticism in the script. Whether or not this could be attributed to some sort of homophobia from Carpenter, or if just an honest and innocuous comment for something he didn't feel would work well for the film, whatever it has been accused of, it can't be denied that film is saturated with male bonding and sexuality imagery. The film is not afraid to showcase these highly intelligent and ego image possessed individuals as fine beautiful specimens of men. It is also very steeped in the mid 80's shallow gloss of superficiality and commercial pop-culture crassness of the era. This in a way though has also given the film a certain charm and I have warmed to it over the years. I see it as kinda quaint now. I thought it was one boring piece of tripe when I first saw it. It does have a bland and transparent approach to its material, but it connected with both male and female audiences at the time. Many males would have wanted to be these guys and females would have wanted to have been with them.
Quentin Tarantino co-wrote this dialog with Roger Avery in a film he starred in called Sleep With Me in the early 90's. Here is his take on Top Gun if you are not familiar with it. Tarantino plays Sid:
Top Gun definitely promotes and glorifies the male body. I am not sure if a gay subtext was director Tony Scott's goal or if it stemmed from what you adeptly call "the mid 80's shallow gloss of superficiality and commercial pop-culture crassness of the era," plus Scott's heavy-handed directorial approach in general. My guess is that the gay subtext is unintentional on the part of the director and certainly the producers (it is perhaps intentional on the part of one or more of the writers). However, what amplifies some of the paradoxes at play is the 1980s trend—in film and society—toward more muscular male physiques and a desire to show them off, as epitomized by Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger (a steroid user for years). Turning the male torso into a fetish was not new to Hollywood, but in the past, doing so proved largely confined to period pieces, especially sword-and-sandal epics or other biblical extravaganzas. Moreover, the newer stars of the eighties sometimes took matters to a greater extreme regardless—with chemical enhancement in Schwarzenegger's case. I mentioned the Sergio Leone Westerns of the 1960s in the other thread where we were discussing male sexuality in film; Clint Eastwood never appears without a shirt in his three Westerns with Leone, reflecting the total absence of love scenes and, more broadly, the different imperatives and interests of Leone, an Italian filmmaker working outside of Hollywood (and without a cent of Hollywood capital for the first two movies, A Fistful of Dollars and For a Few Dollars More).
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 17, 2020 5:47:49 GMT
I'm not a fan of the original, but this looks pretty good tbh. Not sure what the plot is about, but Tom Cruise seems to age like wine. The older he gets, the better the project he's attached to are. It's been 2 years and I'm still completely amazed by M:I - Fallout. Did you see American Made? I thought that it constituted a "very good" film, one of the best of 2017, and Cruise proved perfect for the part.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 18, 2020 3:55:38 GMT
I'm not a fan of the original, but this looks pretty good tbh. Not sure what the plot is about, but Tom Cruise seems to age like wine. The older he gets, the better the project he's attached to are. It's been 2 years and I'm still completely amazed by M:I - Fallout. Did you see American Made? I thought that it constituted a "very good" film, one of the best of 2017, and Cruise proved perfect for the part. I loved American Made. The humor was mixed in perfectly with the drama/thriller elements. One of the most entertaining movies to release recently.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 9, 2022 16:47:19 GMT
Hey, remember when this was supposed to come out like a year ago?
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