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Post by hi224 on Jan 5, 2020 18:56:53 GMT
Probably had good and well meaning intentions but damn did the recklessness of his actions have bad side effects.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 5, 2020 19:55:16 GMT
Probably had good and well meaning intentions but damn did the recklessness of his actions have bad side effects. He was insane. He greatly influenced the South's thinking. By 1860, all slaveowners and sympathizers believe everyone in the North was a John Brown.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 5, 2020 20:10:38 GMT
Probably had good and well meaning intentions but damn did the recklessness of his actions have bad side effects. He was insane. He greatly influenced the South's thinking. By 1860, all slaveowners and sympathizers believe everyone in the North was a John Brown.
I really wish Penn instead of Hawke was doing the biopic as well.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 5, 2020 20:17:45 GMT
He was insane. He greatly influenced the South's thinking. By 1860, all slaveowners and sympathizers believe everyone in the North was a John Brown.
I really wish Penn instead of Hawke was doing the biopic as well. Haven't heard about a movie. I've said for years that Brown would make a hell of a movie.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 5, 2020 20:19:43 GMT
I really wish Penn instead of Hawke was doing the biopic as well. Haven't heard about a movie. I've said for years that Brown would make a hell of a movie.
Apparently HBO has commissioned a mini-series starring Ethan Hawke as Brown.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 5, 2020 21:19:26 GMT
Probably had good and well meaning intentions but damn did the recklessness of his actions have bad side effects. Well said.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 6, 2020 18:55:57 GMT
Haven't heard about a movie. I've said for years that Brown would make a hell of a movie.
Apparently HBO has commissioned a mini-series starring Ethan Hawke as Brown. Hopefully it will be better than Catherine the Great. OK but sill opulent fluff
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Post by llanwydd on Jan 7, 2020 6:02:52 GMT
I really wish Penn instead of Hawke was doing the biopic as well. Haven't heard about a movie. I've said for years that Brown would make a hell of a movie.
John Brown has been depicted on screen in The Santa Fe Trail starring Errol Flynn and Ronald Reagan. Raymond Massey played Brown.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 7, 2020 17:06:02 GMT
He was insane. He greatly influenced the South's thinking. By 1860, all slaveowners and sympathizers believe everyone in the North was a John Brown.
Brown actually did what a good revolutionary does: he ignited the war which finally ended slavery. Without Brown and a delayed Civil War, how many more millions of people would have been born into slavery? He pushed the issue and sacrificed himself in the effort. That was a conflagration just waiting to be ignited. Don't forget Pottawatomie. Those five people butchered move the slaves no closer to freedom. And Harper's Ferry was a pipe dream that made the slave's lot in Virginia worse. He was a man in the most noble cause in American history but he could have used better methods. Like Wendell Phillips, William Garrerson Frederick Douglass,
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 7, 2020 17:09:46 GMT
Haven't heard about a movie. I've said for years that Brown would make a hell of a movie.
John Brown has been depicted on screen in The Santa Fe Trail starring Errol Flynn and Ronald Reagan. Raymond Massey played Brown. Ever seen it? Errol Flynn had fun, Reagan wasn't dismal, which is about as good as it got for him and Massey was very good. The movie was about as historically accurate as a Bugs Bunny cartoon
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Post by llanwydd on Jan 7, 2020 17:31:07 GMT
John Brown has been depicted on screen in The Santa Fe Trail starring Errol Flynn and Ronald Reagan. Raymond Massey played Brown. Ever seen it? Errol Flynn had fun, Reagan wasn't dismal, which is about as good as it got for him and Massey was very good. The movie was about as historically accurate as a Bugs Bunny cartoon I saw part of it. And everything you said about it is true. One of the best performances I ever saw by Raymond Massey, but not historically accurate and about as believable as a Bugs Bunny cartoon as well. Ronald Reagan as Custer?
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 7, 2020 19:17:44 GMT
"John Brown's body's lying all moldy in the grave."
I know there was a song.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 8, 2020 17:40:56 GMT
Haven't heard about a movie. I've said for years that Brown would make a hell of a movie.
Apparently HBO has commissioned a mini-series starring Ethan Hawke as Brown. Tarantino was trying to make a movie for a while I heard. Probably said "screw it" and made Django instead.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 8, 2020 20:03:24 GMT
Apparently HBO has commissioned a mini-series starring Ethan Hawke as Brown. Tarantino was trying to make a movie for a while I heard. Probably said "screw it" and made Django instead. Would have been similar to Once Upon a Time of Hollywood being a movie about Manson
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Post by oftrollorigins on Jan 9, 2020 5:28:33 GMT
Probably had good and well meaning intentions but damn did the recklessness of his actions have bad side effects. He was insane. He greatly influenced the South's thinking. By 1860, all slaveowners and sympathizers believe everyone in the North was a John Brown.
He was insane?! On what evidence?
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Post by oftrollorigins on Jan 9, 2020 5:29:59 GMT
He was insane. He greatly influenced the South's thinking. By 1860, all slaveowners and sympathizers believe everyone in the North was a John Brown.
Brown actually did what a good revolutionary does: he ignited the war which finally ended slavery. Without Brown and a delayed Civil War, how many more millions of people would have been born into slavery? He pushed the issue and sacrificed himself in the effort. That was a conflagration just waiting to be ignited. “John Brown’s Body” was a popular tune amongst Union soldiers during the war. He was and is an icon.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 9, 2020 8:15:32 GMT
He was insane. He greatly influenced the South's thinking. By 1860, all slaveowners and sympathizers believe everyone in the North was a John Brown.
He was insane?! On what evidence? I am not sure about being insane, but the Harper's Ferry fiasco definitely didn't help at all.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 9, 2020 16:00:30 GMT
He was insane. He greatly influenced the South's thinking. By 1860, all slaveowners and sympathizers believe everyone in the North was a John Brown.
He was insane?! On what evidence? Harper's Ferry wasn't Brown's only "notable" achievement.
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