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Post by hi224 on Feb 9, 2020 7:40:27 GMT
someone in my class told me they were happy he died like what the fuck. Which one? Irwin.
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Post by mslo79 on Feb 9, 2020 9:07:58 GMT
gameboyI know why you would say that given my general religious talk around here and you would probably not affiliate a conservative with rap music (although I never really took my religion all that seriously until late 2012 basically as I was pretty much like many others prior to that point to where I was largely 'Catholic' in name only as I did not pray and rarely went to Mass etc. so basically... I had a basic belief in God but that was about as far as it went (which is not cutting it, but prior to my accident I just did not really 'get it' and did not get the importance of prayer etc). but a accident brought me back into the Catholic church and I began to take it a bit more seriously now ). but I used to listen to nothing but gangster rap from about 1992-1993 through about 2004 as no other music did anything for me at that time til my mid-20's I finally started liking other music which before that happened I never thought I would likely anything else besides rap. basically from my teens through mid-20's it was nothing but gangster rap. like Snoop Dogg/Bone Thugs-n-Harmony and especially Master P's record company No-Limit Records which I think peaked in 1998 etc. basically I started on 'Dr. Dre - The Chronic (1992)' with the 'Dre Day' song which I remember first noticing on MTV etc which is basically the first song that got me into music in general and then 'Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle (1993)' with the 'What's my name' song which I still have the original recording on tape that I taped off the radio on Oct 22nd 1993. I was 14 years old at that time. I obviously don't use that tape given I got the CD etc back-in-the-day but I keep it purely for nostalgia sake.
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Post by theauxphou on Feb 9, 2020 9:42:35 GMT
Rik Mayall, mid-2014 Kobe, two weeks ago – still can’t believe he died.
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Post by mslo79 on Feb 10, 2020 1:26:54 GMT
gameboyYeah, like I would assume a lot of the stuff I like now, my teenage to early 20's self would be surprised I like. but then again, like I was saying, my teenage-to-early 20's self liked nothing but gangster rap as no other music did anything for me emotionally back in those days and music in general is all about ones emotional response to it. but nowadays... I don't really listen to rap anymore as when I do once in a while it's almost always something from the 1990's and partially for nostalgia sake. That's what you seriously think? Hell, no. that kind of crap is for teenage females (or thereabouts) basically. I am surprised you don't know this as a typical male is not going to like that kind of music as I think it really goes without saying as it's the type a typical male made fun of, especially back-in-the-day around the time it was new.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 10, 2020 4:07:10 GMT
Hell, no. that kind of crap is for teenage females (or thereabouts) basically. I am surprised you don't know this as a typical male is not going to like that kind of music as I think it really goes without saying as it's the type a typical male made fun of, especially back-in-the-day around the time it was new. Who cares about who music is "for?" I like music if it's good music, and every genre has its good and bad, including pop. Anyone caring about what "typical males" make fun of is a snowflake.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 10, 2020 4:12:44 GMT
gameboy Yeah, like I would assume a lot of the stuff I like now, my teenage to early 20's self would be surprised I like. but then again, like I was saying, my teenage-to-early 20's self liked nothing but gangster rap as no other music did anything for me emotionally back in those days and music in general is all about ones emotional response to it. but nowadays... I don't really listen to rap anymore as when I do once in a while it's almost always something from the 1990's and partially for nostalgia sake. That's what you seriously think? Hell, no. that kind of crap is for teenage females (or thereabouts) basically. I am surprised you don't know this as a typical male is not going to like that kind of music as I think it really goes without saying as it's the type a typical male made fun of, especially back-in-the-day around the time it was new. I've always liked a range of music styles. But most my favorite artists are punk and alternative. I was never a big Hip Hop fan. I always thought it sad that talking replaced singing in r&b. Tupac was one of the better artists though. But I'm also waiting for Hip Hop to finally die. It's old and worn out. It's time for something new to emerge. I will admit I did like the Spice Girls though. I thought it was fun act. Hip-hop and R&B are completely different genres, so I don't see how talking replaced singing. We've had plenty of great singers and R&B artists since the dawn of hip-hop. As for hip-hop dying out, rock lasted a good 60 years before its decline. Rap has only been around 40. It may still have some steam left. Not that I'm not excited about the next thing anyway; right now it seems trap and other forms of electronic music are dominating both rap and pop. I find it sad that the use of real instruments seems to be dying out.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 10, 2020 4:52:21 GMT
Hip-hop and R&B are completely different genres, so I don't see how talking replaced singing. We've had plenty of great singers and R&B artists since the dawn of hip-hop. As for hip-hop dying out, rock lasted a good 60 years before its decline. Rap has only been around 40. It may still have some steam left. Not that I'm not excited about the next thing anyway; right now it seems trap and other forms of electronic music are dominating both rap and pop. I find it sad that the use of real instruments seems to be dying out. It's debatable whether Hip Hop is not just a type of R&B. But lets not kid ourselves. They are both the product of the African-American community. Artists who do Hip Hop would most likely have done classic R&B if there was no Hip Hop. So they are in competition in the sense that talent is being drawn from one to the other. Rock is also a much larger movement than a particular genre like Hip Hop. Rock consists of many and varied genres. I don't see how rap is a "type" of R&B; the traditions of both genres are entirely different. I'm even skeptical of claims that hip-hop has any roots in other genres. It seems to me one of the very few musical styles to arise almost completely originally and spontaneously with very little influence from its predecessors. Absolutely both are products of the African-American community, but so was rock music originally. Perhaps hip-hop drew many would've-been R&B performers, but I think that's a pretty silly argument; like saying metal replaced rock or rock replaced jazz or even that R&B replaced jazz; there are still rock and jazz musicians out there. I think it's debatable whether rock is "larger" than hip-hop. It would depend on how we're defining each (rock, especially, can be really broad or quite narrow; is heavy metal "rock?"). I'd argue that hip-hop has arguably been a larger overall force in music since about 1990, while rock dominated before then.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 10, 2020 6:17:47 GMT
The first celebrity death I can remember making me sad was
don't laugh
Gene Siskel
because I watched the show every week and his illness was not hidden from the show so one could see him back form surgery and obviously having some difficulties and then later Ebert announced his death so it was one of the most personal celebrity deaths.
And more recently,
don't laugh again
when the first guy who played Godzilla died. I was surprised to actually find myself shedding tears. Oh damn it's happening again. I think it must be a case of "the child is the father of the man" since Godzilla was such a big part of childhood that it triggers an involuntary psychological emotion hearkening back to adolescence.
I think as one gets older, the loss of things or familiar faces even in media will resonate--the changing of the seasons...but something that goes all the way back to childhood would impact the most at least subconsciously.
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Post by mslo79 on Feb 10, 2020 6:39:34 GMT
gameboyYeah, I am sure when it comes to the rap genre, he's easily going to be one of the very top people who are remembered. or another way to put it... I think one could argue 2-Pac is in the running for #1 spot for rap music which not many could claim that. Yeah, I am sure it pretty much is. but I stopped following it pretty much in the early 2000's as the 1990's was the clear cut peak for gangster rap overall. just speaking for myself... I think it's overall height for me was 1998 as a good portion of the stuff No-Limit Records put out was solid (although in terms of a last album that stood out for me back in the day... 'Krayzie Bone - Thug Mentality 1999 (1999)' (who's my favorite rapper from the group 'Bone Thugs-n-Harmony')) as after that point they took a hit as when I listen to stuff from No-Limit nearly all of the solid stuff is from 1998 and older. although I would guesstimate on a more mainstream level, as far as the 1990's goes, probably around the mid-1990's it peaked with 2-Pac etc. Eva YojimboIt's not really that, it's just the way it is. that stuff(Spice Girls/Backstreet Boys (and the like)) sucks. period. I was just saying that 'typical male' stuff because it pretty much went without saying guys just don't like that boyband stuff. because while opinions vary on what music is good and what's not, I can't see many guys liking boybands and the like straight up.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 10, 2020 6:54:00 GMT
Eva Yojimbo It's not really that, it's just the way it is. that stuff(Spice Girls/Backstreet Boys (and the like)) sucks. period. I was just saying that 'typical male' stuff because it pretty much went without saying guys just don't like that boyband stuff. because while opinions vary on what music is good and what's not, I can't see many guys liking boybands and the like straight up. Most major pop stars consistently work with the best songwriters and producers in the world. So the best songwriters/producers "suck. period?" I think not. The reason most dislike them have nothing to do with the music and everything to do with silly ideologies, like a desire to be cool. Backstreet Boys had some damn good songs, especially the ones written by Max Martin. I Want It That Way is about as good as pop music gets. Spice Girls were fun. I remember liking them when I was like 12 but, tbh, I don't remember anything they did besides Wannabe.
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Post by Sarge on Feb 11, 2020 8:34:37 GMT
When Elvis died, mom and dad were both very sad, mom cried for days and we listened to his music nonstop. I experienced a lot of family death in my youth and adult life so I am kind of numb to deaths of people I don't know personally. I will be sad when William Shatner dies because he loomed large in television during most of my life and Star Trek was a huge part of my childhood but it's not like I'll cry over him or send flowers or anything like that. Musicians usually die from their own doing so it don't feel too sad for them.
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Post by Morgana on Feb 11, 2020 9:32:37 GMT
I was sad when Princess Diana died.
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Post by leroybrown2 on Feb 11, 2020 9:40:10 GMT
John Wayne, I knew he was very ill just by seeing him at the Oscars. But he was John Wayne he's not supposed to die, the Duke don't die. I was hoping the myth would be real that time, then reality set in. I actually cried.
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Post by Sarge on Feb 11, 2020 21:38:58 GMT
I was sad when Princess Diana died. We know people who had memorial services, dressed in black, crying, like a family member died. That one in particular puzzled me since I'm American. Apparently there are still Tories among us.
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Post by Morgana on Feb 12, 2020 11:41:47 GMT
I was sad when Princess Diana died. We know people who had memorial services, dressed in black, crying, like a family member died. That one in particular puzzled me since I'm American. Apparently there are still Tories among us. I think a lot of people all over the world liked and admired her. She was, as she said, 'the people's princess.'
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Feb 13, 2020 13:05:54 GMT
I remember my dad's younger brother went into his room for days on end, playing Beatles records when John Lennon was murdered. I was just a kid and this is when I learned about The Beatles.
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Post by spoonyrumble on Feb 14, 2020 1:20:39 GMT
Jimmy Saville
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