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Post by RiP, IMDb on Apr 16, 2020 1:13:34 GMT
DIE Another Day! (2002)!!
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Post by darksidebeadle on Apr 16, 2020 1:14:23 GMT
The worst and most ridiculous, what an embarrassment
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Apr 16, 2020 1:15:25 GMT
The worst and most ridiculous, what an embarrassment I HAVEN'T gotten to that one YET!
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Post by movielover on Apr 16, 2020 1:16:30 GMT
The worst and most ridiculous, what an embarrassment I HAVEN'T gotten to that one YET!
Why do you hide the results to people who haven't voted?
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 16, 2020 1:18:30 GMT
Meh, though I am tempted to give it a sympathy yay.
Mild yay for the first half, meh for the second half.
Though I do like how OTT and insanely tacky the second half is, but there is still way too many bad choices made. Crappy villains and crappy Bond girls, but has one of Pierce Brosnan's best performances and a lot of cool sets and very fun action scenes. The chase scene with the space laser is insane and I like the theme song and the invisible car.
I have a very specific taste in camp/cheese or whatever you want to call it and a lot of this movie fits nicely into that category.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Apr 16, 2020 1:19:51 GMT
I HAVEN'T gotten to that one YET!
Why do you hide the results to people who haven't voted? Just the way I like to do it. One can see the results by voting and IF they DON'T want their vote then they UNVOTE.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Apr 16, 2020 1:20:32 GMT
I HAVEN'T gotten to that one YET!
Why do you hide the results to people who haven't voted? You can vote then unvote if you want to see not showing votes makes to so people will not be swayed by what they see
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Post by jcush on Apr 16, 2020 1:21:35 GMT
Meh Mild yay for the first half, meh for the second half. Though I do like how OTT and insanely tacky the second half is, but there is still way too many bad choices made. Crappy villains and crappy Bond girls, but has one of Pierce Brosnan's best performances and a lot of cool sets and very fun action scenes. The chase scene with the space laser is insane and I am not going to like, I like the theme song and the invisible car. I have a very specific taste in camp/cheese or whatever you want to call it and a lot of this movie fits nicely into that category. I hate that song
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 16, 2020 1:22:04 GMT
Meh Mild yay for the first half, meh for the second half. Though I do like how OTT and insanely tacky the second half is, but there is still way too many bad choices made. Crappy villains and crappy Bond girls, but has one of Pierce Brosnan's best performances and a lot of cool sets and very fun action scenes. The chase scene with the space laser is insane and I am not going to like, I like the theme song and the invisible car. I have a very specific taste in camp/cheese or whatever you want to call it and a lot of this movie fits nicely into that category. I hate that song It's as tacky as the movie is.
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Post by Marv on Apr 16, 2020 1:23:18 GMT
Nay. This one made me actively avoid Bond films for years.
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Post by movielover on Apr 16, 2020 1:23:23 GMT
Why do you hide the results to people who haven't voted? Just the way I like to do it. One can see the results by voting and IF they DON'T want their vote then they UNVOTE.
Yeah, I know, that's what I do, but it's kind of a pain.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Apr 16, 2020 1:27:18 GMT
Why do you hide the results to people who haven't voted? You can vote then invite if you want to see not showing votes makes to so people will not be swayed by what they see EXCELLENT explanation.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 16, 2020 5:33:58 GMT
yay. I love it. 10/10
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Apr 16, 2020 17:43:10 GMT
Nay big time, the runt of the litter, a crushing nadir for the whole series. This makes AVTAK and DAF look like genius Bond films.
As the Bond franchise celebrated 40 years of being, the film to mark the occasion, ironically, forgot the subtle ingredients that make up the best Bond movies. What we get is a chaotic movie, excess is the order of the day, with Eon allowing Tamahori to stack up scene after scene of video game standard ideas. There is no lack of effort here, the heart is full of good intentions, but some big cheese in a suit should have reined the director in. It's also a sad day in the Bond universe when a Bond film uses homage's to homage itself, only for that idea to tire itself out as well. There is barely any time for reflective silences, for a show of character depth, on the odd occasion the film slows down, gasping for air, Tamahori rushes into the next bit of noise annoys. While the action is often as laughable as the dialogue. This may have made a pot load of cash, but few serious Bond fans would have returned to see this again at the cinema. It's Bond for the non Bond fans, a lazy popcorn no brain for the gamers who just want crash, bang and wallop with no substance. Ssshh, did someone say Batman & Robin?
As the film unfolds in a blur of sledgehammer editing and lack of restraint, not to forget CGI that is shameful, the cast struggle to keep the good ship Bond afloat. Brosnan is on smug auto-pilot, this film proving to be a sad farewell for him from a role he had previously graced with some distinction. Berry is gorgeous but looks awkward with the action scenes and can't carry off the chirpy aspects of the script, though in her defence she's not done any favours by the writers and Tamahori is more concerned with showcasing her twin assets. Pike is OK, sexy and feisty, if a little difficult to accept as a MI6 agent. Stephens, who went on to do very good acting work later in his career, hams it up for all he is worth. Meant to be a shadow characterisation of Bond, Stephens plays Gustav Graves as some posh cartoon character from a Brit sit-com, a world away from the much needed dastard villain opposing Bond. His motives unclear and a victim of one of the film's more berserker twists. Yune is fun with his diamond studded face and old pros Cleese and Dench at least come out of it with reputations still intact. While Madsen is criminally underused.
Elsewhere on a technical front there's also not much to shout about. Madonna's title song, the worst in the series by far, is only beaten in awfulness by her cameo in the film. Tattersall's photography barely registers above the ordinary, with sub-standard location filming not helping either, and Arnold's score is about as far removed from Bond flavours as it can get. There are some good scenes within, a machismo pumped sword fight between Bond and Graves and a laser beam (hello Goldfinger my old friend) dodging fist fight stand tall above the messy quagmire, but the memory of the good sequences are quickly vanquished once the "invisible car" is put to field duty use! And with that there really is no more to say about the "quality" of Die Another Day. For Bond fans it's about a 5/10 movie, for casual blockbuster fans after a cheap thrill it will no doubt score higher.
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Post by theravenking on Apr 17, 2020 13:40:49 GMT
I have to admit I enjoyed this when I first saw it at the movie theatre. I remember reviews being actually quite positive at the time. I think it was only after the emergence of the new grittier Bond with Casino Royale that people began to smirk at its ridiculous excesses. So for me this went from a meh to a
Nay
Positive:
The North Korea conflict was (and sadly still is) a topical issue and using that could've made for an interesting Bond movie
It has a pretty good sword fight
Rosamunde Pike is a decent Bond girl
It's fun spotting the nods to past Bond films
Negative:
Too much CGI
Toby Stephenes should be ashamed of his performance here
I'm still not sure whether Halle Berry can act or whether you can call her portrayal of Jinx an actual performance
lousy title song from Madonna
the action overkill becomes numbing
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Post by politicidal on Apr 17, 2020 14:16:06 GMT
No way.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 17, 2020 14:59:47 GMT
Feel embarrassed to say this, but I actually think it’s the best paced and most Bond-y of the Brosnans (none of which I really like), at least in the first half. Once it gets to the ice palace (a cool setting, pun intended) and we get the horrible CGI and the invisible car, yes, the movie’s flaws overwhelm it, and it’s not a good movie all things considered. But I think that first half should get the movie more credit than it gets these days. That said, it’s disappointing that the beautiful Rosamund Pike wasn’t in a better Bond movie. And with that said, luckily she and Toby Stephens got to redeem themselves, at least from a Bond perspective, in the superb, still-running BBC Radio adaptations of Fleming’s books. (Stephens plays an excellent, Dalton-esque Bond in the closest performance I know to Fleming’s character, and Pike played Pussy Galore in the adaptation of Goldfinger.)
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Post by Lux on Apr 17, 2020 15:50:33 GMT
The worst and most ridiculous, what an embarrassment The first half is actually the best of any Bond film.
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Post by Lux on Apr 17, 2020 15:51:08 GMT
Nay big time, the runt of the litter, a crushing nadir for the whole series. This makes AVTAK and DAF look like genius Bond films. As the Bond franchise celebrated 40 years of being, the film to mark the occasion, ironically, forgot the subtle ingredients that make up the best Bond movies. What we get is a chaotic movie, excess is the order of the day, with Eon allowing Tamahori to stack up scene after scene of video game standard ideas. There is no lack of effort here, the heart is full of good intentions, but some big cheese in a suit should have reined the director in. It's also a sad day in the Bond universe when a Bond film uses homage's to homage itself, only for that idea to tire itself out as well. There is barely any time for reflective silences, for a show of character depth, on the odd occasion the film slows down, gasping for air, Tamahori rushes into the next bit of noise annoys. While the action is often as laughable as the dialogue. This may have made a pot load of cash, but few serious Bond fans would have returned to see this again at the cinema. It's Bond for the non Bond fans, a lazy popcorn no brain for the gamers who just want crash, bang and wallop with no substance. Ssshh, did someone say Batman & Robin?
As the film unfolds in a blur of sledgehammer editing and lack of restraint, not to forget CGI that is shameful, the cast struggle to keep the good ship Bond afloat. Brosnan is on smug auto-pilot, this film proving to be a sad farewell for him from a role he had previously graced with some distinction. Berry is gorgeous but looks awkward with the action scenes and can't carry off the chirpy aspects of the script, though in her defence she's not done any favours by the writers and Tamahori is more concerned with showcasing her twin assets. Pike is OK, sexy and feisty, if a little difficult to accept as a MI6 agent. Stephens, who went on to do very good acting work later in his career, hams it up for all he is worth. Meant to be a shadow characterisation of Bond, Stephens plays Gustav Graves as some posh cartoon character from a Brit sit-com, a world away from the much needed dastard villain opposing Bond. His motives unclear and a victim of one of the film's more berserker twists. Yune is fun with his diamond studded face and old pros Cleese and Dench at least come out of it with reputations still intact. While Madsen is criminally underused.
Elsewhere on a technical front there's also not much to shout about. Madonna's title song, the worst in the series by far, is only beaten in awfulness by her cameo in the film. Tattersall's photography barely registers above the ordinary, with sub-standard location filming not helping either, and Arnold's score is about as far removed from Bond flavours as it can get. There are some good scenes within, a machismo pumped sword fight between Bond and Graves and a laser beam (hello Goldfinger my old friend) dodging fist fight stand tall above the messy quagmire, but the memory of the good sequences are quickly vanquished once the "invisible car" is put to field duty use! And with that there really is no more to say about the "quality" of Die Another Day. For Bond fans it's about a 5/10 movie, for casual blockbuster fans after a cheap thrill it will no doubt score higher.First half is good.
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Post by Lux on Apr 17, 2020 16:45:26 GMT
The first half is the best of any Bond film.
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