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Post by mstreepsucks on May 4, 2020 23:14:00 GMT
automatically better than what we have today? I'd say generally yes. Unless it happens to be crap.
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Post by politicidal on May 4, 2020 23:49:15 GMT
No, same with any other decade. They made shit too.
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Post by rudeboy on May 4, 2020 23:59:23 GMT
No, the '80s were a low point, especially after the daring and adventurous '70s. Vast amounts of dreck, relatively little of worth (of course, this made what good there was stand out even more).
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Post by Feologild Oakes on May 5, 2020 0:00:53 GMT
Every decade as crappy movies and good movies, the reason why it seems like the past had better movies today is because the bad movies have been forgotten and the good movies have been remembered.
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Post by johnspartan on May 5, 2020 0:20:38 GMT
Every decade as crappy movies and good movies, the reason why it seems like the past had better movies today is because the bad movies have been forgotten and the good movies have been remembered. Oh really? Every decade had The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, The Indiana Jones Trilogy, Back to the Future, ET, Predator, Lethal Weapon, The Terminator, and Die Hard? Then why didn't the 90s, 2000s, and 2010s have movies anywhere near as good as those movies?
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Post by Jason143 on May 5, 2020 1:51:08 GMT
Every decade as crappy movies and good movies, the reason why it seems like the past had better movies today is because the bad movies have been forgotten and the good movies have been remembered. Oh really? Every decade had The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, The Indiana Jones Trilogy, Back to the Future, ET, Predator, Lethal Weapon, The Terminator, and Die Hard? Then why didn't the 90s, 2000s, and 2010s have movies anywhere as good as those movies? This. Why do you think a lot of reboots and sequels today are from movies in the 80s and 90s. Cos today's big to midbudget movies suck more than they did in the 90s and 90s. Cold facts
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Post by Fox in the Snow on May 5, 2020 3:06:26 GMT
For me personally the 80s are the weakest decade since the 30s or 40s save a few standouts (Ran and Blue Velvet for example). A lot more films from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 90s, 00s and 10s I rank among my favorites. That's just my opinion though. There is no objective measure of whether or not the films are better or worse than any other decade. It was the beginning of the "blockbuster" era and if you like those sort of films (Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc.) you'll probably rate the decade quite highly as they felt more fresh and original then.
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Post by mslo79 on May 5, 2020 6:14:07 GMT
I would disagree as only 18.1% (i.e. 28/155) of my favorite movies are pre-1990's. so in my book Post-1990 dominates Pre-1990 by a wide margin overall. even strictly 1980's vs 2010's in terms of my favorite movies (assuming 'what we have today' means the 2010's decade)... the 2010's wins across the board as it's got a higher volume of movies in each score bracket for me (I did not list the details below but some stats below should get the gist of it across). but about the only thing that I would say, at least for me, favors the pre-1990's movies is that things were more distinct in that you could tell the 1980's/1970's/1960's and maybe even a bit before that where as once the 1990's came along things started to look more or less the same as recently. like in many ways movies from say the mid-to-late 1990's look pretty much the same as today. sure, stuff like vehicles in them you can see are starting to show their age and maybe occasional tech like cell phones etc, but overall it's not as obvious as stuff was pre-1990's in overall distinctness. or here is a way I can rank things given the facts for me personally... 1)2000's (three 10/10, five 9/10, nine solid 8/10, seven 7.5-8/10, twenty-three 7/10. total of 47 movies.) 2)1990's (one 10/10, two 9/10, seven solid 8/10, eight 7.5-8/10, sixteen 7/10. total of 34 movies.) 3)2010's (zero 10/10, two 9/10, four solid 8/10, seventeen 7.5-8/10, twenty-three 7/10. total of 46 movies.) 4)Pre-1990 (two 10/10, one 9/10, three solid 8/10, eight 7.5-8/10, fourteen 7/10. 28 movies) so as you can see I have to combined ALL pre-1990 movies into one category instead of on a per decade basis to make it competitive with each separate decade from the the 1990's to date and even then it's only close to the 1990's and 2010's as the 2000's is still clearly ahead for me since in nearly every category the 2000's decade is ahead across the board short of the 7.5-8/10 score bracket and even there it's only barely behind by one movie. so overall the 2000's decade alone clearly tops ALL decades combined Pre-1990. p.s. the 1990's and 2010's are close to flip-flopping. but ill give the 1990's the slight edge due to it having a edge in the SOLID 8/10 and higher range even though it's behind in total favorite movie count. johnspartanBut you must surely realize that it's partially because that was the earlier days of modern action types of movies as it was much easier for movies to make bigger progress vs previous generations and since as eventually things level off and you can't get that kind of a boost anymore etc. but like I always say, it's not about doing something new, but taking a idea that's already been done and manage to do it well etc. but personally... I think most (if not the great majority) of those movies you mentioned are overrated for me at this point in time as only Back to the Future (1985)/Lethal Weapon (1987) still remain among my favorite movies to this day. but just to name some more recent action movies from the 1990's to date that hold their own against those basically... -Running Scared (2006) -Casino Royale (2006) -A Man Apart (2003) (I realize most will probably disagree with this one but I think it's underrated) -Point Break (1991) -The Last Boy Scout (1991) (Bruce Willis best action oriented movie if you ask me. easily tops Die Hard series for me at this point in time as the Die Hard series lost a lot of it's appeal for me in fairly recent memory) -Mission Impossible series (1996-xxxx) -Spectre (2015) -The Book of Eli (2010) -Taken (2008) (this holds up well against any action movie pre-1990. in fact, no action movie pre-1990 outright tops this as they are either about tied or worse) -John Wick (2014) -Drive Angry (2011) (I realize not many will agree with this one but it's underrated as Cage/Heard/Fichtner carry it) -Street Kings (2008) -Crank (2006) -Face Off (1997) -The Long Kiss Goodnight (1996) (the #1 female lead simple action movie if you ask me) etc (but the above pretty much sums it up) so to claim the 1990+ time frame is not "anywhere near as good" as pre-1990 action movies is simply not true. because while it would be easy for you to write off some of what I listed, you definitely can't discount all of it. especially your claim that they are not 'anywhere near as good' as I think I could make a argument that they (at least some of what I listed at the minimum) are at least close for many. Feologild OakesI don't know if I would say EVERY decade had good movies, or especially not great movies as if you go back far enough things are just too different/dated from more fairly recent standards and they become harder to enjoy. so while I can't speak for everyone, I know there are many who are inline with my general mindset or thereabouts (i.e. I tend to see movies pre-1960's as dated in general as finding a movie that stands out to be among my favorites in general is next to non-existent as the overall style of these movies becomes too different from more modern standards which makes them harder to connect with to a higher degree etc). but I can see your point about how some people seem to think things were better back-in-the-day vs more recently in that people generally only think of the more praised movies from the old days. so it gives the illusion that things were generally better for some but like you said pretty much all decades had their ups and downs. but personally... I don't really care about how many average or bad movies come out, since it's ultimately about the movies that stick with you in where decades are ultimately made or broke.
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Post by darksidebeadle on May 5, 2020 6:27:16 GMT
Every decade has good and bad films, but at least practical sfx were at the peak before horrible cgi replaces it
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Post by mikef6 on May 5, 2020 14:57:51 GMT
It is easy for anyone to draw up a long list of good movies from any decade as "proof" that it was a good 10 years for movies. But is that really a good way to gauge the value of a time period in movies? How about this: through the 1960s in America it was possible to find a good movie playing in your town just about any time. Say to yourself, "I want to go to the movies tonight," so check the newspaper, pick one out and go. There are choices to be made. But starting in the '70s, even while the Revolution was going on, that happened less and less. The number of good, watchable movies got smaller as time went on. While the precept that "there are good and bad movies in any decade" is true to some extent, since the end of the Classic Era (around 1970), the percentage of "bad" has skyrocketed.
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Post by Lux on May 5, 2020 15:03:13 GMT
No.
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Post by janntosh on May 5, 2020 19:52:03 GMT
Every decade as crappy movies and good movies, the reason why it seems like the past had better movies today is because the bad movies have been forgotten and the good movies have been remembered. Oh really? Every decade had The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, The Indiana Jones Trilogy, Back to the Future, ET, Predator, Lethal Weapon, The Terminator, and Die Hard? Then why didn't the 90s, 2000s, and 2010s have movies anywhere near as good as those movies? You forgot Blade Runner, Aliens, RoboCop, and Ghostbusters
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 5, 2020 20:09:03 GMT
I’m pretty sure I don’t care for many of the 80’s movies not produced by Amblin
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Post by shannondegroot on May 5, 2020 20:47:11 GMT
The 80s were when filmmaking turned 100 years old.
100 years of advancements in story telling and special effect came to a head at this period of time.
It was right before the over usage of CGI in film.
Well banked filmmakers could almost tell ANY fantastic story they wanted to tell with just the right balance of special effects and limitations to make a great film where the story and characters were very important.
There were also a lot of talented music composers and poster artists being utilized.
The filmmakers also seemed to have a heart and generally cared about the audience, whether trying to teach them, put them in awe or scare the heck out of them, and there was less cynicism.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 5, 2020 21:17:47 GMT
The age of Golan and Globus and The Cannon Group.
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Post by movielover on May 5, 2020 21:50:22 GMT
I'm guilty of being partial to 80s movies myself. The great 80s movies are better than most of the great post-2000 movies, and I think I could watch a bad movie from the 80s easier than I could a bad movie from other decades.
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Post by johnspartan on May 5, 2020 23:57:32 GMT
Oh really? Every decade had The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, The Indiana Jones Trilogy, Back to the Future, ET, Predator, Lethal Weapon, The Terminator, and Die Hard? Then why didn't the 90s, 2000s, and 2010s have movies anywhere near as good as those movies? You forgot Blade Runner, Aliens, RoboCop, and Ghostbusters Those aren't the only ones I forgot, the 80s has far too many great movies to name them all in one post.
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Post by moviemouth on May 6, 2020 0:53:27 GMT
The 80s were when filmmaking turned 100 years old. 100 years of advancements in story telling and special effect came to a head at this period of time. It was right before the over usage of CGI in film. Well banked filmmakers could almost tell ANY fantastic story they wanted to tell with just the right balance of special effects and limitations to make a great film where the story and characters were very important. There were also a lot of talented music composers and poster artists being utilized. The filmmakers also seemed to have a heart and generally cared about the audience, whether trying to teach them, put them in awe or scare the heck out of them, and there was less cynicism. All of what you say is true, but the 1980's is also the decade where studios realized how much easy money they could make from pumping out sequels and rip-offs. It was the converging point.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on May 6, 2020 1:00:13 GMT
The 80s was a very strong decade for films. Even a good chunk of the bad films were kinda fun. Like a lot of the straight to video horror and action films we got then.
But sure there was a lot of shit too. Like every decade. However most films on my worst 100 are from 2000 and on.
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Post by moviemouth on May 6, 2020 1:15:10 GMT
The 80s was a very strong decade for films. Even a good chunk of the bad films were kinda fun. Like a lot of the straight to video horror and action films we got then. But sure there was a lot of shit too. Like every decade. However most films on my worst 100 are from 2000 and on. That is in fact the only reason I put the 1980's ahead of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's in terms of movies. The bad movies were more fun. You actually bring up another thing that started with the 1980's, the straight-to-video market. The straight-to-video market is essentially made up of bad and terrible movies that are cheap to produce and are therefor guaranteed to make their budget back and more.
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