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Post by RiP, IMDb on May 8, 2020 5:19:16 GMT
quora.com/Why-do-young-people-say-before-my-time-in-excusing-their-ignorance-of-things-like-never-having-heard-of-the-Beatles-for-example
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Post by mslo79 on May 8, 2020 7:54:02 GMT
Surely they must have at least heard of the name 'The Beatles'? ; excluding people who are really young. but I would imagine just about everyone by the time they are around 20 years old or so would have at least heard of their name and possibly heard some of their songs, but maybe just don't know who sings them etc.
because, unless I am mistaken, it don't seem like it would be at the point where young generations would not have at least heard of The Beatles name and the like (I would imagine a good portion of music from the 1960's and 1970's etc are timeless to where the popularity of the songs is not limited to just that time but will still appeal to generations into the future from today).
because while I think The Beatles are overrated, I just tend to assume damn near everyone has at least heard of the name 'The Beatles' and possibly heard a little bit of their songs etc unless they are living under a rock because on a all-time music scale I am sure they are one of the elite with mainstream popularity etc. because I think when it comes to music in general... you might as well say the 1960's on forward is more of today's music that is likely to connect with plenty of people. because while a lot of mainstream music today is popular briefly and then is mostly forgotten not long into the future, there is still a good amount of music from the past that I would assume some people will still be listening to generations/decades from now. possibly centuries in some cases, assuming there are no wars or anything to destroy it etc.
p.s. I did not go to that link but just reading the text on the link I made a comment from that.
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Post by someguy on May 8, 2020 13:59:23 GMT
I’ve met one woman in her twenties who said she had never heard the Beatles music, couldn’t name any songs, but had at least heard OF the Beatles. I didn’t think any less of her, I was just mildly surprised. Again, I wasn’t bothered.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on May 8, 2020 15:08:54 GMT
Because, like other ignorant people, they live in their own little bubble world. This phenomenon is not solely attributable to the young.
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Post by kls on May 8, 2020 15:57:58 GMT
I guess they'd consider me ignorant for not knowing today's music.
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Post by marianne48 on May 8, 2020 17:48:29 GMT
Because they're young. Just like most of today's musical performers are virtually unknown to a lot of us who are old enough to remember the Beatles when they were big (anywhere between 1964-2000). When I watched the recent film Yesterday, I had no reaction when some supposedly wildly famous musician suddenly showed up; I just had some vague recollection of the name "Ed Sheeran" but didn't knew any of his music or even what he looked like.
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Post by enigma72 on May 8, 2020 17:51:38 GMT
Because they're young. Just like most of today's musical performers are virtually unknown to a lot of us who are old enough to remember the Beatles when they were big (anywhere between 1964-2000). When I watched the recent film Yesterday, I had no reaction when some supposedly wildly famous musician suddenly showed up; I just had some vague recollection of the name "Ed Sheeran" but didn't knew any of his music or even what he looked like. I don't know ANY modern performers Marianne. It is embarrassing in a way but if I really cared I would find out about them |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on May 8, 2020 17:52:18 GMT
I find that a pretty stupid excuse for lack of knowledge.
And it has nothing to do with them being young,
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Post by kls on May 8, 2020 18:03:39 GMT
When I think of performers from today (even ones I like such as Bruno Mars or Ed Sheeran) I just can't see them sticking in the memory of a teen or early 20 something today when he or she's 70 or 80 like the Beatles did for my parent's generation.
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Post by kls on May 8, 2020 23:44:47 GMT
An American who doesn't know Bill Clinton was president cannot understand politics and the world today and certainly has no business getting anywhere near a voting booth. Fruitless knowledge? Understanding the world you live in and how it got that way is not "fruitless knowledge". The whole world is not American Gamey. Trivial information about who a countries president, or a famous rock band in a certain period of time does not determine a person's ignorance because they don't know about them. What does knowing about them prove? Are you saying understanding and caring about self-serving politicians who grandstand, is the be all end all knowledge? It is only ignorant in your eyes, because of any lofty sense of knowledge superiority you hold yourself to, so you can then claim others are dullards. If you went to another country\culture that wasn't western, they could very well claim the same from you for not knowing their countries political history or music culture.
Tell me, how did the world get the way it is today?
To be fair Gameboy started by saying "An American who doesn't know...…"
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Post by kls on May 8, 2020 23:54:21 GMT
To be fair Gameboy started by saying "An American who doesn't know...…" And he also stated he knew the world existed before he was born.... 
An American not knowing that Bill Clinton was President serves what relevance? I live in Australia, I don't know all the past prime ministers, nor do I invest much interest in it apart from what is currently going on.
So why would that apply to you if you aren't American?
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Post by Admin on May 9, 2020 0:08:15 GMT
Apparently anyone who's familiar with Beethoven is like 200 years old.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on May 9, 2020 14:21:00 GMT
Knowledge can also become a dangerous thing. Is this how the world got to be the way it is?  Toasty, this argument is fucking stupid. You're a smart guy. You know it's good to read and educate yourself. The same goes for "young people". This guy could complicate a baby fart.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 16:14:13 GMT
I don't know what young people you're meeting. I know a lot who play nothing but older music and watch older movies. I have a hard time believing that any American or British youth hasn't even heard of the Beatles. The demonization of the young is a tale as old as time, but this accusation is just laughable. Never heard anyone under 65 say "before my time".
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Post by Jayman on May 9, 2020 16:51:28 GMT
the way some kids describe tv shows from the 80's or 90's, you'd think it was the golden age of television. What gets me is when people are these huge and major sports fans but know zero or next to nothing about the history or players of not so distant past.
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Post by kls on May 9, 2020 17:20:45 GMT
I recall one day at the end of class 4 of the 18 to 21 year olds were singing. They got into Let It Be. The CO came by and said "Ok, John, Paul, George and Ringo. Mess Hall's running." They asked me "Who are John, Paul, George and Ringo?" as they were packing up. I told them "They're the Beatles." "Never heard of them." "You guys were singing one of their big hits." "Oh, okay."
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Post by Jayman on May 9, 2020 17:29:24 GMT
I recall one day at the end of class 4 of the 18 to 21 year olds were singing. They got into Let It Be. The CO came by and said "Ok, John, Paul, George and Ringo. Mess Hall's running." They asked me "Who are John, Paul, George and Ringo?" as they were packing up. I told them "They're the Beatles." "Never heard of them." "You guys were singing one of their big hits." "Oh, okay." I can't even imagine that. Did they also never hear of Elvis or Frank Sinatra? That is just mind-blowing to me.
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Post by kls on May 9, 2020 17:43:23 GMT
I recall one day at the end of class 4 of the 18 to 21 year olds were singing. They got into Let It Be. The CO came by and said "Ok, John, Paul, George and Ringo. Mess Hall's running." They asked me "Who are John, Paul, George and Ringo?" as they were packing up. I told them "They're the Beatles." "Never heard of them." "You guys were singing one of their big hits." "Oh, okay." I can't even imagine that. Did they also never hear of Elvis or Frank Sinatra? That is just mind-blowing to me. I guess it was they knew it to a degree without realizing they knew it.
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Post by Jayman on May 9, 2020 17:45:03 GMT
I can't even imagine that. Did they also never hear of Elvis or Frank Sinatra? That is just mind-blowing to me. I guess it was they knew it to a degree without realizing they knew it. But they didn't know the name
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Post by dirtypillows on May 10, 2020 7:34:58 GMT
They may, or may not have heard of The Beatles, or any other thing historical if not told about it, or have any interest in it. Many may not have even heard of the Vietnam War. It is not a part of their psyche, nor should we feel entitled to think they should know about it. That comes down to their upbringing and what their parents and education indoctrinated onto them. Their parents may not even know either. It depends on what culture as well one is brought up in. If it is integral to their teachings and study and they are interested in it, only then would it be relevant and they can also do their own research. It may not serve any necessary purpose for them to know, even if judged as ignorant. It may be ignorant of us to assume that anyone should know about something. I can go both ways here. I love pop culture that was before my time. I love the big band stuff from the 40s. Just love it to pieces. Also the French New Wave from the late 50s through most of the 60s. And I've read almost every one of Agatha Christie's novels and she only wrote 3 or 4 after 1970, thr year I was born. I think it is a shame when people show no interest in the past. It's like the only thing that interests them is whatever is going on at that moment. I can understand that some people are more compelled to follow the trends and to want to keep up and be a part of whatever is going on now. I totally get that. But I am not one of those people. I really could not care less about The Beatles. But it is a shock to hear somebody say they've never heard of them. I can't wrap my head about that. At the same time, I've never watched a single episode of "The Simpsons". |
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