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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 28, 2020 12:36:33 GMT
It usually doesn't bother me.
Although I get skeptical why they appear in certain film series and TV episodes. Oh, we're so "edgy". Because we said cock shit fuck!
The James Bond series had it's first f bomb without cutting away or having a loud car horn obscure it in Skyfall.
It's popped up at least twice in the Transformers films.
It appeared twice in Star Trek: Discovery, and about once in every episode of Star Trek: Picard. Surprisingly Picard doesn't eff, although he did say "pissing me off".
And one certain director likes to use the n word a lot. If he gets his hands on Star Trek like he wants to, it will likely have dialogue like, "Shit n!gger, do I, Captain Motherfucking Picard LOOK LIKE A BITCH?!!"
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jun 28, 2020 12:51:32 GMT
Im not remotely bothered by it.
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Post by Catman on Jun 28, 2020 12:53:57 GMT
In moderation, use of profanity can add dimension to a character.
Overdone, use of profanity can make a movie unwatchable.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 28, 2020 12:58:04 GMT
It depends on the context and character. It can be a distraction or an enhancement and I am only bothered when it becomes forced or a distaction. The BBC here used to replace 'motherfucker' with 'melonfarmer' back in the day, which was hilarious. The use of 'n****r' appears to be acceptable, or not depending on the voice using it and Tarantino obviously thinks it cool as a middle aged white guy to use it prolifically.
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Post by Catman on Jun 28, 2020 13:14:39 GMT
Consider, for example, in The Princess Bride when the grandson says, "You mean, he lives? Jesus, Grandpa, what did you read me this thing for?!" What if instead, the grandson had said, "You mean, he lives? Jesus Fucking Christ, Grandpa, what did you read me this motherfucking thing for?!"
Okay, Peter Falk would have punched Fred Savage in the face for real if he'd said that, and who wouldn't want to see Fred Savage get punched in the face? But otherwise, it would have been completely out of place in the movie.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 28, 2020 13:37:37 GMT
It usually doesn't bother me.
Although I get skeptical why they appear in certain film series and TV episodes. Oh, we're so "edgy". Because we said cock shit fuck!
The James Bond series had it's first f bomb without cutting away or having a loud car horn obscure it in Skyfall.
It's popped up at least twice in the Transformers films.
It appeared twice in Star Trek: Discovery, and about once in every episode of Star Trek: Picard. Surprisingly Picard doesn't eff, although he did say "pissing me off".
And one certain director likes to use the n word a lot. If he gets his hands on Star Trek like he wants to, it will likely have dialogue like, "Shit n!gger, do I, Captain Motherfucking Picard LOOK LIKE A BITCH?!!" There are so many reasons to enjoy or not enjoy movies that profanity can get lost in the shuffle. I think I agree with others here that it can depend on the story. The expression often used when I was younger was "redeeming social value." What I notice about profanity is that it loses its impact if every other word is profane. It becomes totally meaningless. If however someone who never otherwise uses profanity says "damn" you know something different happened. Maybe it's time to dismiss the party goers.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 28, 2020 14:00:21 GMT
Depends on what it is. I'm unfazed by hearing 'fuck' or 'shit' or whatever in a Scorsese movie but I'd be surprised if it was a Pixar flick.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 28, 2020 16:59:04 GMT
Depends on what it is. I'm unfazed by hearing 'fuck' or 'shit' or whatever in a Scorsese movie but I'd be surprised if it was a Pixar flick. Not all the characters in Scorsese movies are supposed to be articulate, so sloppy speech might fit them.
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Post by AcousticBlues77 on Jun 29, 2020 18:43:02 GMT
It usually doesn't bother me.
Although I get skeptical why they appear in certain film series and TV episodes. Oh, we're so "edgy". Because we said cock shit fuck!
The James Bond series had it's first f bomb without cutting away or having a loud car horn obscure it in Skyfall.
It's popped up at least twice in the Transformers films.
It appeared twice in Star Trek: Discovery, and about once in every episode of Star Trek: Picard. Surprisingly Picard doesn't eff, although he did say "pissing me off".
And one certain director likes to use the n word a lot. If he gets his hands on Star Trek like he wants to, it will likely have dialogue like, "Shit n!gger, do I, Captain Motherfucking Picard LOOK LIKE A BITCH?!!"
And it was spoken by Dame Judi Dench as M. Didn't bother me and seemed to suit the situation she and Bond were in at the time. Besides, Dame Judi can say anything she effing pleases as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 23:38:37 GMT
In certain films it could add impact to the film or TV show.
I usually don't swear in real life. It's not a religious thing, but a reflection of intelligence. If one has to cuss every other word, it indicates a lack of a large vocabulary.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 30, 2020 0:16:01 GMT
I'm generally not bothered by it, but I don't think it really makes a film "hip" or "edgy". It just makes it excessive.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 30, 2020 1:45:17 GMT
Stand By Me has a lot of swearing, yet barely much of it is malicious. 12yr olds gonna 12yr old.
Tarantino & Scorsese have so much swearing that it becomes texture of their vision. Jackie Brown I don't remember having as much swearing, which makes it seem the least-Tarantino feeling movie he's done.
I do feel like the comedy genre has used swearing as a crutch, among other things. I want more intelligent humour to emerge.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 30, 2020 1:52:25 GMT
I don't think it's particularly funny when you have little kids/old people use profanity. Feels like a cheap joke.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 30, 2020 2:06:15 GMT
It depends on the context and character. It can be a distraction or an enhancement and I am only bothered when it becomes forced or a distaction. The BBC here used to replace 'motherfucker' with 'melonfarmer' back in the day, which was hilarious. The use of 'n****r' appears to be acceptable, or not depending on the voice using it and Tarantino obviously thinks it cool as a middle aged white guy to use it prolifically. Tarantino generally uses the word in context with the character, which is why only certain characters in his movies use the word. In The Hateful Eight and Django Unchained it makes sense why it is used a lot. Many of the characters are racist in those movies. I don't recall it being used in Inglourious Basterds, Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood or the Kill Bill movies.
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Post by rudeboy on Jun 30, 2020 2:20:48 GMT
Profanity is fine but at times it seems to be overused for no obvious reason. The conversations between Sam Elliot and Bradley Cooper in A Star is Born were so heavily peppered with f-words that it became almost cringeworthy.
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Post by shannondegroot on Jun 30, 2020 2:28:41 GMT
I think it should only exist in film and on cable tv. Regular networks should have no cursing or nudity.
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Post by jcush on Jun 30, 2020 8:08:05 GMT
Stand By Me has a lot of swearing, yet barely much of it is malicious. 12yr olds gonna 12yr old. Tarantino & Scorsese have so much swearing that it becomes texture of their vision. Jackie Brown I don't remember having as much swearing, which makes it seem the least-Tarantino feeling movie he's done. I do feel like the comedy genre has used swearing as a crutch, among other things. I want more intelligent humour to emerge. Jackie Brown has lots of swearing.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jun 30, 2020 8:23:48 GMT
It doesn't bother me in the slightest, provided it's not done solely for the purpose of being 'edgy'.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 30, 2020 9:02:23 GMT
I am not bothered by it
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Post by telegonus on Jun 30, 2020 9:13:33 GMT
Profanity strikes me as overused, in life as much as in films. I'm almost sorry that the Big Bad Words have become commonplace, especially in films and TV, but then this reflects my age and upbringing. The shock value of rough language is now largely gone. Maybe it's still there, to some degree, in the Red states. Everywhere else it's become the (virtual) norm. What real meaning those words had is mostly lost now, and swearing has become a poor excuse for lazy writing. Film writing has noti mproved because of this New Normal.
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