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Post by movieliker on Aug 9, 2020 3:24:38 GMT
Pullups are great exercises. But standing rows better offset the results of pushups. Arches and/or windmills offset situps. Pushups and situps only work your front. If you don't work your back, you stand the risk of bad posture and your shoulders rolling forward. Either way, situps and pushups are better than nothing. The thing is, none of those exercises you mentioned have anything to do with each other, and some are actually high risk, depending on your age, your health, and your bone density. Pullups are great, but difficult, but have no correlation to "standing rows" or "pushups". "Arches" (I assume you're talking about things like cat stretches and the reverse of stretching your back and rounding it?) - the arching it must be done gently and carefully because it can pull a muscle or herniate a disc. Sit-ups are dreadful, wouldn't recommend them for anyone, as they stress the spine in horrible ways, and that's whether your feet are anchored beneath something, or not and just resting on the floor or even just held up in the air (but that's the least dangerous way, as those amount to "crunches" and not so much "sit-ups"). Rolling forward can cause kyphosis or that "hunched over" turtle shell posture you often see in older people, usually who have long, weak back muscles or short, weak chest muscles, or osteopenia or osteoporosis or other osseous problems. I agree that pushups are wonderful exercises because they're compound exercises and in one movement, use most of the muscles in your body. Chair squats or ball squats with arms out to the front are excellent, same thing, utilizing all the muscles in your body. Planks are great because they build your core, front and back, do them not only face down, but on each side with your arm elevated up on each side. Calisthenics are wonderful, if you have the space are great AFTER you've done your strength training. Do some yoga and stretching, some breath work and meditation at night. Mix it up. Kegals for men and women often for a strong pelvic floor can be done any time.. Avoid jumping and high impact. Protect your joints. Hint: I'm also speaking in terms of protecting the older population. They can do plyometrics of course, but safely of course. But in my book, the back and neck must always be protected, the core must always be protected and saved above everything else one attempts with exercises... One can use anything, such as rubber bands, even bottles of bleach or cans of soup or towels. It's all about creativity!  Arches are what babies do. They lay on their stomach, and arch their backs so only their stomachs are touching the ground (or table or bed with babies). They usually put their arms out. Adults do them switching their head left and right, laying back down inbetween reps. Most adults point their toes. --- The exercises you recommend all work the front of the body. One should also do exercises for the back of the body. Standing rows are good for the upper back and posture. And offset the effects of pushups. Arches exercise the lower back and offset the effects of situps and/or crunches. Butt flexors and leg curls are also great support for the back. --- I agree with everything you said in your post. But I wouldn't assume a poster was elderly, or had any specific exercise restrictions, unless they stated as such. |
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Post by autumn on Aug 9, 2020 3:33:47 GMT
The thing is, none of those exercises you mentioned have anything to do with each other, and some are actually high risk, depending on your age, your health, and your bone density. Pullups are great, but difficult, but have no correlation to "standing rows" or "pushups". "Arches" (I assume you're talking about things like cat stretches and the reverse of stretching your back and rounding it?) - the arching it must be done gently and carefully because it can pull a muscle or herniate a disc. Sit-ups are dreadful, wouldn't recommend them for anyone, as they stress the spine in horrible ways, and that's whether your feet are anchored beneath something, or not and just resting on the floor or even just held up in the air (but that's the least dangerous way, as those amount to "crunches" and not so much "sit-ups"). Rolling forward can cause kyphosis or that "hunched over" turtle shell posture you often see in older people, usually who have long, weak back muscles or short, weak chest muscles, or osteopenia or osteoporosis or other osseous problems. I agree that pushups are wonderful exercises because they're compound exercises and in one movement, use most of the muscles in your body. Chair squats or ball squats with arms out to the front are excellent, same thing, utilizing all the muscles in your body. Planks are great because they build your core, front and back, do them not only face down, but on each side with your arm elevated up on each side. Calisthenics are wonderful, if you have the space are great AFTER you've done your strength training. Do some yoga and stretching, some breath work and meditation at night. Mix it up. Kegals for men and women often for a strong pelvic floor can be done any time.. Avoid jumping and high impact. Protect your joints. Hint: I'm also speaking in terms of protecting the older population. They can do plyometrics of course, but safely of course. But in my book, the back and neck must always be protected, the core must always be protected and saved above everything else one attempts with exercises... One can use anything, such as rubber bands, even bottles of bleach or cans of soup or towels. It's all about creativity! Arches are what babies do. They lay on their stomach, and arch their backs so only their stomachs are touching the ground (or table or bed with babies). They usually put their arms out. Adults do them switching their head left and right, laying back down inbetween reps. Most adults point their toes. --- The exercises you recommend all work the front of the body. One should also do exercises for the back of the body. Standing rows are good for the upper back and posture. And offset the effects of pushups. Arches exercise the lower back and offset the effects of situps and/or crunches. Butt flexors and leg curls are also great support for the back. --- I agree with everything you said in your post. But I wouldn't assume a poster was elderly, or had any specific exercise restrictions, unless they stated as such. 'No, I mentioned exercises for the back chain muscles of the body as well. If you do the very basics such as squats, deadlifts, burpees, planks (facing the floor AND on each side) you also work the back muscles and the flanks. Of course if you do rows if you have elastic bands or cables, or bent over with DBs you work your back. Squats and DLs work the back and butt (which is what give your back the strength including back of legs and glutes and lower back). Situps are dangerous for the low back, really bad. Crunches to a degree are better, but planks are better and work more muscles in the whole body. A very good movement is called "cross crawling" where you're on all fours and alternate arms and legs being extending out. It's an adult version of how babies crawl, and help to develop the nervous system. Excellent exercise. Pointing toes is not good. Looks "elegant" but shortens and tightens the hamstrings and causes plantar fasciitis. Better idea to dorsiflex and stretch everything out.
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Post by movieliker on Aug 9, 2020 3:41:55 GMT
Arches are what babies do. They lay on their stomach, and arch their backs so only their stomachs are touching the ground (or table or bed with babies). They usually put their arms out. Adults do them switching their head left and right, laying back down inbetween reps. Most adults point their toes. --- The exercises you recommend all work the front of the body. One should also do exercises for the back of the body. Standing rows are good for the upper back and posture. And offset the effects of pushups. Arches exercise the lower back and offset the effects of situps and/or crunches. Butt flexors and leg curls are also great support for the back. --- I agree with everything you said in your post. But I wouldn't assume a poster was elderly, or had any specific exercise restrictions, unless they stated as such. 'No, I mentioned exercises for the back chain muscles of the body as well. If you do the very basics such as squats, deadlifts, burpees, planks (facing the floor AND on each side) you also work the back muscles and the flanks. Of course if you do rows if you have elastic bands or cables, or bent over with DBs you work your back. Squats and DLs work the back and butt (which is what give your back the strength including back of legs and glutes and lower back). Situps are dangerous for the low back, really bad. Crunches to a degree are better, but planks are better and work more muscles in the whole body. A very good movement is called "cross crawling" where you're on all fours and alternate arms and legs being extending out. It's an adult version of how babies crawl, and help to develop the nervous system. Excellent exercise. Pointing toes is not good. Looks "elegant" but shortens and tightens the hamstrings and causes plantar fasciitis. Better idea to dorsiflex and stretch everything out. I don't think situps are dangerous for young people, or middle aged people, unless they have back problems. I'm 61. I do situps. Always have. I have no back problems. I agree though, they can be dangerous for those with back problems. |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Aug 9, 2020 6:38:40 GMT
Yes. I walk regularly.
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Post by ck100 on Aug 9, 2020 6:43:47 GMT
Weights and cardio for me.
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Post by theravenking on Aug 9, 2020 13:09:34 GMT
I used to go to the gym, but coincidentally and quite luckily I cancelled my gym membership early this year just before the whole Corona crisis began and they were forced to close for months.
Now I mostly do Yoga at home and I like to take long walks.
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Post by Joanna on Aug 9, 2020 20:26:08 GMT
Yes.
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Post by sjg on Aug 10, 2020 11:42:04 GMT
Pullups are great exercises. But standing rows better offset the results of pushups. Arches and/or windmills offset situps. Pushups and situps only work your front. If you don't work your back, you stand the risk of bad posture and your shoulders rolling forward. Either way, situps and pushups are better than nothing. The thing is, none of those exercises you mentioned have anything to do with each other, and some are actually high risk, depending on your age, your health, and your bone density. Pullups are great, but difficult, but have no correlation to "standing rows" or "pushups". "Arches" (I assume you're talking about things like cat stretches and the reverse of stretching your back and rounding it?) - the arching it must be done gently and carefully because it can pull a muscle or herniate a disc. Sit-ups are dreadful, wouldn't recommend them for anyone, as they stress the spine in horrible ways, and that's whether your feet are anchored beneath something, or not and just resting on the floor or even just held up in the air (but that's the least dangerous way, as those amount to "crunches" and not so much "sit-ups"). Rolling forward can cause kyphosis or that "hunched over" turtle shell posture you often see in older people, usually who have long, weak back muscles or short, weak chest muscles, or osteopenia or osteoporosis or other osseous problems. I agree that pushups are wonderful exercises because they're compound exercises and in one movement, use most of the muscles in your body. Chair squats or ball squats with arms out to the front are excellent, same thing, utilizing all the muscles in your body. Planks are great because they build your core, front and back, do them not only face down, but on each side with your arm elevated up on each side. Calisthenics are wonderful, if you have the space are great AFTER you've done your strength training. Do some yoga and stretching, some breath work and meditation at night. Mix it up. Kegals for men and women often for a strong pelvic floor can be done any time.. Avoid jumping and high impact. Protect your joints. Hint: I'm also speaking in terms of protecting the older population. They can do plyometrics of course, but safely of course. But in my book, the back and neck must always be protected, the core must always be protected and saved above everything else one attempts with exercises... One can use anything, such as rubber bands, even bottles of bleach or cans of soup or towels. It's all about creativity! In theory if you do enough push ups you are also performing a decent length plank. I started with just 10 push ups before my peddling session and added 5 each time i reached the desired total easily and i'm now up to 40. I aim to get to 100 but even at 40 i can feel my core straining a little to keep rigid.
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Post by moonchild on Aug 10, 2020 22:53:02 GMT
I'm on the bike as we speak
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Post by movieliker on Aug 10, 2020 22:58:14 GMT
I'm on the bike as we speak Are you texting and driving? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 13:40:38 GMT
I'm on the bike as we speak Ive started back on weights, had nearly 4 months of painful gout. Had anti biotics for a week to get rid of swelling. Starting 2 week of walking with dumbbells to encourage my hip, I feel like a pregnant woman at times and my foot on heel feels numbish at times.
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