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Post by ck100 on Dec 11, 2020 20:03:09 GMT
I think it's out by now on Blu-ray, Netflix, etc. Have any of you watched it yet? If so, what do you think of it? How do you compare it to the theatrical cut of Godfather III?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 11, 2020 20:46:50 GMT
I think it's out by now on Blu-ray, Netflix, etc. Have any of you watched it yet? If so, what do you think of it? How do you compare it to the theatrical cut of Godfather III? What are supposed to be some of the differences/improvements? Anything major?
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Post by hi224 on Dec 11, 2020 21:04:33 GMT
I think it's out by now on Blu-ray, Netflix, etc. Have any of you watched it yet? If so, what do you think of it? How do you compare it to the theatrical cut of Godfather III? What are supposed to be some of the differences/improvements? Anything major? re-structuring of scenes, difference in ending, reactionary shots etc.
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Post by ck100 on Dec 11, 2020 21:18:43 GMT
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Dec 11, 2020 22:09:21 GMT
Personally, I thought there was little real difference. A little restructuring of scenes (i.e. some things moved to different spots, such as the film opening with Michael haggling for shares of Internazionale Immobiliare, which happens much later in the theatrical cut). As someone who has long defended Godfather III, I think it's really b.s. for people who say the theatrical cut was terrible but that the Coda version is great. They're 99.9% the same movie. To me, it just goes to show that people didn't give the original movie a fair shake.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Dec 11, 2020 22:21:51 GMT
No, despite it being my favorite movie when I first started "studying" movies twenty years ago.. This guy has milked this shit for so long. Why can't he make a good movie? It's been about 40 years, and I'm guessing the next thing on his "project list" is another Godfather release. The last time I saw a mention of him was a bottle of wine at my supermarket.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Dec 13, 2020 6:39:21 GMT
Just had a thought. They had some balls calling it "The Death of Michael Corleone", but then cutting out the actual death of Michael Corleone. The film fades to black after older Michael puts on his sunglasses, whereas the original cut then shows him slumping over and falling from his chair.
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Post by ck100 on Dec 13, 2020 7:37:35 GMT
Just had a thought. They had some balls calling it "The Death of Michael Corleone", but then cutting out the actual death of Michael Corleone. The film fades to black after older Michael puts on his sunglasses, whereas the original cut then shows him slumping over and falling from his chair. I think Coppola wanted the death to be a death in a metaphorical sense for Michael.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 7, 2021 23:52:05 GMT
As someone who has long defended Godfather III, I think it's really b.s. for people who say the theatrical cut was terrible but that the Coda version is great. They're 99.9% the same movie. To me, it just goes to show that people didn't give the original movie a fair shake. I don't think the original cut is *terrible* or the new one is *great*, but I do consider it an improvement. Structure and pacing go a long way. I thought the new opening made it feel more like the first two (which is ironic, because FFC acts like not calling it a "Godfather" movie would have magically solved all of its problems in 1990). That and the lack of the Fredo flashbacks also retain the ruthless businessman image of Michael we left off on, letting his guilt slowly come out rather than just expecting us to buy he's a good guy now right off the bat. The "new" ending doesn't make much of a difference, though I guess the original's was a pinch melodramatic and just leaving us on old Michael's sorrow is a bit more subtle? But some things can't be fixed: -Sofia Coppola stills gives the worst performance in a major movie I've ever seen. She can't even smile in silence naturally. It's unbelievably awful. -Connie going from resenting Michael and his empire to Lady Macbeth is still idiotic. Her and Michael made up on the grounds that he'd forgive Fredo, but after KILLING the guy, which even Anthony can figure out, she's his #1 fan and poisoning Don Tuco with cannoli? Get out of here. -Speaking of Anthony, the second film literally opened fading from young Vito to him. If you're gonna tell a third generation story of the Corleone family, why throw him in the background and focus on some newly invented bastard of Sonny's that just happens to act exactly like his long dead father? On that note, how and why was Andy Garcia nominated for this movie? It's a one-note performance, and not even a good note ("I say we take Zaza OUUUUT!" What Andy, you trying to out-Pacino Pacino with that?) -Speaking of my detest for both Garcia and Sofia Coppola, that romance is weird and gross and no one in the movie seems to notice. Michael's only real problem is that Vincent's too much of a sexy bad boy for his daughter.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 8, 2021 1:52:31 GMT
The movie is unnecessary. That's the problem with it--because the ending of Part 2 is essentially the same-he achieved power by losing his family. But because of the flashbacks to him with his father we understand that he failed to honor his father's wishes. He's alone.
How is the ending of Part 3 any more poignant? It's not. It is repetitive. And made worse by the horrible casting of the daughter. Should have used Bridget Fonda for the role--that would have worked better even though I don't think she's right for the part but then again, she has a superficial resemblance to Diane Keaton in the original film and a similar speaking voice so why not.
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Post by OldAussie on Feb 8, 2021 6:11:52 GMT
Godfather III - 7/10 Godfather Coda - 7.2/10
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Post by mgmarshall on Feb 8, 2021 6:40:51 GMT
Just had a thought. They had some balls calling it "The Death of Michael Corleone", but then cutting out the actual death of Michael Corleone. The film fades to black after older Michael puts on his sunglasses, whereas the original cut then shows him slumping over and falling from his chair. Yeah, that's a stupid enough change to make me not bother with the new cut. I always liked The Godfather: Part III. It's flawed, certainly, but there's enough good there to overcome those flaws (Sofia Coppola's a big one). And at least for its last half hour, it's just as great as the first two. Everything after the start of the opera scene/murder montage is simply masterful, Michael's death included.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Feb 8, 2021 7:16:38 GMT
i always liked the original and I think this new version is at least as good and maybe a little but better.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Feb 22, 2021 3:34:30 GMT
So I picked up The Godfather Coda today and just finished watching it. Yes it certainly does feel like it's a better movie than the original version. It was a wise decision to start it off with Michael's meeting with Archbishop Gilday to establish his intentions on becoming a legitimate businessman once and for all. This helps set up the story to get right down to business. And reportedly there were some minor cuts throughout to tighten things up and get the film moving at a better pace. I didn't really notice exactly what the cuts were, except when Mary has her hissy fit and runs away after her father told not to see Vincent anymore; that part I noticed was removed.
On another thread about this new version, I mentioned the scene in which Calo stabs Lucchesi in the throat with his own glasses, and how that part had to be trimmed to avoid an NC-17 rating for the theatrical release. I was wondering at the time if the Coda version will include the gore that was originally cut out, but now I can confirm it's all there in its bloody glory.
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Post by ck100 on Feb 22, 2021 3:40:59 GMT
So I picked up The Godfather Coda today and just finished watching it. Yes it certainly does feel like it's a better movie than the original version. It was a wise decision to start it off with Michael's meeting with Archbishop Gilday to establish his intentions on becoming a legitimate businessman once and for all. This helps set up the story to get right down to business. And reportedly there were some minor cuts throughout to tighten things up and get the film moving at a better pace. I didn't really notice exactly what the cuts were, except when Mary has her hissy fit and runs away after her father told not to see Vincent anymore; that part I noticed was removed. On another thread about this new version, I mentioned the scene in which Calo stabs Lucchesi in the throat with his own glasses, and how that part had to be trimmed to avoid an NC-17 rating for the theatrical release. I was wondering at the time if the Coda version will include the gore that was originally cut out, but now I can confirm it's all there in its bloody glory. How do you feel about the changed ending?
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Post by Captain Spencer on Feb 22, 2021 3:55:53 GMT
So I picked up The Godfather Coda today and just finished watching it. Yes it certainly does feel like it's a better movie than the original version. It was a wise decision to start it off with Michael's meeting with Archbishop Gilday to establish his intentions on becoming a legitimate businessman once and for all. This helps set up the story to get right down to business. And reportedly there were some minor cuts throughout to tighten things up and get the film moving at a better pace. I didn't really notice exactly what the cuts were, except when Mary has her hissy fit and runs away after her father told not to see Vincent anymore; that part I noticed was removed. On another thread about this new version, I mentioned the scene in which Calo stabs Lucchesi in the throat with his own glasses, and how that part had to be trimmed to avoid an NC-17 rating for the theatrical release. I was wondering at the time if the Coda version will include the gore that was originally cut out, but now I can confirm it's all there in its bloody glory. How do you feel about the changed ending? I'm actually neutral about both endings. I could go with either one of them.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 22, 2021 6:24:35 GMT
]On another thread about this new version, I mentioned the scene in which Calo stabs Lucchesi in the throat with his own glasses, and how that part had to be trimmed to avoid an NC-17 rating for the theatrical release. I was wondering at the time if the Coda version will include the gore that was originally cut out, but now I can confirm it's all there in its bloody glory. That shit was like an Evil Dead movie.
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Post by ck100 on Apr 6, 2021 6:10:11 GMT
The Showtime movie network is now playing The Godfather Coda if any of you want to check it out.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Apr 6, 2021 19:31:23 GMT
The Showtime movie network is now playing The Godfather Coda if any of you want to check it out. By the way, what's your opinion on Godfather III/Coda?
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Post by ck100 on Apr 6, 2021 20:10:18 GMT
The Showtime movie network is now playing The Godfather Coda if any of you want to check it out. By the way, what's your opinion on Godfather III/Coda? I've always found Godfather III to be a flawed but good movie as a whole. It has its flaws, but it has its strengths and some good scenes. It certainly doesn't touch the first two films, but on its own it's really not that bad. I don't think Coda improves on the third film much, but I can feel some improvement with it enough to say it's the better of the two versions overall.
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