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Post by ashverses on Feb 21, 2017 12:30:14 GMT
By the way, I plan on seeing Logan opening weekend. That's how much of a hater I am.
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Post by miike80 on Feb 21, 2017 12:48:38 GMT
They are a bunch of Logan haters. Thats why they believe, Kong will be makes more money. Hey, hey. What makes you think I, or anyone who has posted here, haters? The OP asked a question is Logans 2nd weekend would be higher then Kongs 1st weekend PERIOD. Many, including myseself, think not. OP didn't ask about China box Office, what will be the better movie, or what people are looking forward to. Post what you think Logan will open with domestic. Then post what you think Kong will open with domestically. Then instead of having a meaningless argument, we can have a discussion on box office. so much this!
When did it became a discussion about quality or what movies do we want to see?
My most anticipated is T2: Trainspotting this year, but I'm not gonna say it's gonna dominate the box office for the next 7 months
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Post by neymarjr on Feb 21, 2017 13:29:22 GMT
They are a bunch of Logan haters. Thats why they believe, Kong will be makes more money. Hey, hey. What makes you think I, or anyone who has posted here, haters? The OP asked a question is Logans 2nd weekend would be higher then Kongs 1st weekend PERIOD. Many, including myseself, think not. OP didn't ask about China box Office, what will be the better movie, or what people are looking forward to. Post what you think Logan will open with domestic. Then post what you think Kong will open with domestically. Then instead of having a meaningless argument, we can have a discussion on box office. . Exactly. He is the guy who is hating on kong. I just asked a question and gave my opinion that's it. And yes by the way I'll watch both of the movies on their opening weekends.
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Post by captainchrisredfield on Feb 21, 2017 20:11:12 GMT
Hey, hey. What makes you think I, or anyone who has posted here, haters? The OP asked a question is Logans 2nd weekend would be higher then Kongs 1st weekend PERIOD. Many, including myseself, think not. OP didn't ask about China box Office, what will be the better movie, or what people are looking forward to. Post what you think Logan will open with domestic. Then post what you think Kong will open with domestically. Then instead of having a meaningless argument, we can have a discussion on box office. . Exactly. He is the guy who is hating on kong. I just asked a question and gave my opinion that's it. And yes by the way I'll watch both of the movies on their opening weekends. True. He's the only one I see hating all the time in this topic. I'm going to see both movies, so I'm not really biased. If we compare both two the movies they are the best comparable to (the first 2 Wolverines for Logan, Godzill 14 and Kong 05 for Kong): Wolverine: OW: 85m, DO: 179m, WW: 373m Wolverine 2 OW: 53m, DO:132m, WW: 414m Godzilla 14: OW: 93m, DO: 200m, WW: 529m Kong 05: OW: 50m, DO: 218m, WW: 550m (OW=opening weekend, DO=domestic, WW= worldwide) Looking at these numbers I can see Kong grossing more than Logan. BUT Logan could do better than his predecessors. People are more exited it seems and it got good reviews. On the other side it is rated R, so you loose part of the younger audience (no loss for the rest of the audience). Kong on the other hand might underperform. Godzilla created more of a hype for me, since it didn't show all the monsters in the trailes. Kong has spoiled way too much. With Godzilla many people were interested in what the monsters look like. My prediction for Logan: OW: 60-70m DO:180-230m WW: 450-550m
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Post by Jesse Custer on Feb 22, 2017 11:01:31 GMT
Logan = 745-750 WW Kong = 400-450 Ww
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Post by ashverses on Feb 22, 2017 12:33:13 GMT
Logan = 745-750 WW Kong = 400-450 Ww Solid prediction for WW, but how do you think they will open?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 14:17:50 GMT
I think Logan has a chance, to surpass Deadpool ww BO. Or even comes close. And theres a advatage for Logan, he will be played on China.
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Post by ashverses on Feb 22, 2017 14:49:57 GMT
No chance Logan outgrosses Deadpool domestically. WW will be different. It's hard to predict China.
What do you think it will do in China? THe best any wolverine movie has done is 40M. THe best any X-men movie has done is 120M. I don't see it outgrossing X-men. Logan feels like a smaller indie type of movie that the Chinese rarely bother to see. Not the Transformers, FF, or Warcraft movie type that does bonkers over there.
I doubt it makes more than 7.83M WW. Maybe I'm wrong, but right now, I don't see it.
Deadpool was very unique and had an incredible advertising campaign. It succeeded in giving a hard R fun with blood.
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Post by neymarjr on Feb 22, 2017 16:40:02 GMT
Logan : 70-80 OW Kong : 50 0W By the way won't Kong open big in China as their audience like these type of movies ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 17:20:36 GMT
Difficult to say. Godzilla makes only 37 Million opening. I see the same for Kong.
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Post by baj2 on Feb 24, 2017 10:32:27 GMT
China release details -- www.china.org.cn/arts/2017-02/24/content_40354334.htmSome positive aspects -- *Editing parts out of the movie may actually mean good news because it will allow the wide distribution of the movie throughout the huge Chinese film market. *The movie will be released on same day/date as the USA release of March 3! It was initially announced for a March 17 release which would put it on direct confrontation with BEAUTY AND THE BEAST in China itself. *The poster indicates that it will likewise be shown on IMAX screens -- which allows a much better appreciation of the movie...as well as increase the revenue potential! *Jackman and Stewart will promote the movie through a China premiere on March 1! Hugh is an old-hand as lead for movies shown in the Chinese market (10 to-date). Maybe he can brush up on the Mandarin song he sang for SNOW FLOWER! *If a DVD of the China release will be available -- it may be the option for the PG-13 market to see the movie in a few months time.
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Post by baj2 on Feb 24, 2017 11:01:56 GMT
Presumably the above information quoted from the above press release on the critical and artistic reception of LOGAN will also be used in promoting the movie in China, in addition to the promotional material released by FOX ( trailers/press releases/photos and videos, etc.)
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2017 12:27:08 GMT
Chinese people are a bunch of pussies. They are afraid to show an Rated-R movie so they cut 14 minutes of Logan. I hope chinese moviegoers are not that dumb, and dont support a cut movie.
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Post by baj2 on Feb 24, 2017 13:01:40 GMT
I would not personally comment on the cultural sensibilities of different nations.
But I think another reason could be because they want to reach as wide a market as possible.
I do hope the Chinese audiences support the movie!
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Post by ashverses on Feb 24, 2017 13:11:11 GMT
Difficult to say. Godzilla makes only 37 Million opening. I see the same for Kong. Where to start here? First, www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=godzilla2012.htm. Box office mojo is a great and reliable place to look up box office. Second, if you think Kong will open the same as Godzilla, that will mean it will make 93.1M on opening weekend. I disagree with you on that. No way it comes close to Godzilla on opening weekend. More like 40M-50M. The reviews will be important. Especially when it comes to it's legs. Godzilla had awful legs because the reviews were very mixed. I also believe that the CinemaScore was not good.
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Post by medjay on Feb 24, 2017 13:42:08 GMT
Chinese people are a bunch of pussies. They are afraid to show an Rated-R movie so they cut 14 minutes of Logan. I hope chinese moviegoers are not that dumb, and dont support a cut movie. If the Party say you cut this or that out, chances are it will happen.
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2017 14:23:14 GMT
I would not personally comment on the cultural sensibilities of different nations. But I think another reason could be because they want to reach as wide a market as possible. I do hope the Chinese audiences support the movie!Then you are not a real movie fan. A real movie fan wants always the whole product, no cut crap.
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Post by ashverses on Feb 24, 2017 14:35:49 GMT
I would not personally comment on the cultural sensibilities of different nations. But I think another reason could be because they want to reach as wide a market as possible. I do hope the Chinese audiences support the movie!Then you are not a real movie fan. A real movie fan wants always the whole product, no cut crap. Hey Jackass, Baj2 didn't say he wanted it cut. He just stated a reason why it would be cut (and a plausible reason as well). Your reading comprehension is shite.
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Post by baj2 on Feb 24, 2017 15:37:50 GMT
Thanks, ashverses Here's an analogy for those who think it is a crime to edit a movie to suit a different purpose. If you are familiar with literary classics -- you might know that the original unabridged version of LES MISERABLES by Victor Hugo is over 1000 pages long. It includes not just the story of the characters but Hugo's own social commentary of French society at that time. Many abridged versions came out later on, without the social commentaries and other detailed discussions of the lives of the characters but they basically captured the essence of Hugo's work. It doesn't mean that those who preferred only the abridged versions are not very appreciative of great literary works...maybe they wanted to read other books or do something else with their time. So, I would not prejudge people's preferences! And if you have seen the 3 hour-stage musical, that is actually a very much-abridged version of the novel. The film adaptation added many of the missing important passages but even that was not a complete adaptation of the novel. However given the massive fanbase of the musical, we cannot say that those fans are not true fans. As to LOGAN - I am sure any cuts were done together with James Mangold and maybe other members of the creative team and FOX. I am also sure that if the essential story-telling and characterizations suffered a lot and changed the essence of the storyline and characters, then Fox and Mangold would have said NO. Fox did that when a much edited cut of DEADPOOL was offered by the Chinese authority but given the nature of that film, Fox felt that it would lose the essence of the film and they decided not to distribute the movie in China. Perhaps it is a tribute to Mangold's work that even a slimmer version of LOGAN still presents the cinematic vision that he and Hugh intended. To each his own!
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