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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 21, 2022 23:54:55 GMT
But why, why, why, why, why not calling this "UNCANNY X-MEN"?
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 21, 2022 23:55:21 GMT
And they release it just after ‘mutant’ is mentioned in the last episode of Ms Marvel, like anyone was watching that. They probably thought that hundreds of millions were hanging off their every scene. Then again Ms Marvel was probably written before the catastrophic Disney+ TV shows were unleashed on us. Before that it may have generated some excitement.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 22, 2022 0:23:45 GMT
Do you know any other Logan in Marvel that isn't Wolverine? I’m pretty sure when people hear the term “mutants” in the context of the Marvel Universe, the X-Men are the first thing that come to mind. Again, you're not using an apples to apples comparison. Logan is specific to Wolverine in Marvel, it pertains ONLY to Wolverine, whereas "mutants" don't only pertain to X-Men. In Marvel alone there are various other mutant groups like X-Force, X-Factor, The Brotherhood, The Morlocks, Maurauders, New Mutants, etc. Heck for all you know the first thing people think about when they hear "Mutant" is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 22, 2022 0:32:27 GMT
I’m pretty sure when people hear the term “mutants” in the context of the Marvel Universe, the X-Men are the first thing that come to mind. Again, you're not using an apples to apples comparison. Logan is specific to Wolverine in Marvel, it pertains ONLY to Wolverine, whereas "mutants" don't only pertain to X-Men. In Marvel alone there are various other mutant groups like X-Force, X-Factor, The Brotherhood, The Morlocks, Maurauders, New Mutants, etc. Heck for all you know the first thing people think about when they hear "Mutant" is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. The X-Men are far more well known than any of those other Marvel groups.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 22, 2022 0:36:13 GMT
Again, you're not using an apples to apples comparison. Logan is specific to Wolverine in Marvel, it pertains ONLY to Wolverine, whereas "mutants" don't only pertain to X-Men. In Marvel alone there are various other mutant groups like X-Force, X-Factor, The Brotherhood, The Morlocks, Maurauders, New Mutants, etc. Heck for all you know the first thing people think about when they hear "Mutant" is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. The X-Men are far more well known than any of those other Marvel groups. Again, it doesn't matter because we're not talking about popularity here. What you're talking about is like naming a Justice League movie as "The Superheroes" or making a Batman movie called "The Vigilante".
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 22, 2022 1:10:49 GMT
The X-Men are far more well known than any of those other Marvel groups. Again, it doesn't matter because we're not talking about popularity here. What you're talking about is like naming a Justice League movie as "The Superheroes" or making a Batman movie called "The Vigilante". I’m guessing that they want to separate themselves from the Fox X-Men films. They seem to want to channel the X-Men cartoons and comics, which is a good choice. I reckon that the general public still associates the X-Men brand with the Fox series. I’m certain that Disney will X-ploit the ‘X’ name into the most tackiest of ways. Their titles aren’t exactly subtle as it is. If they’re going to call the final film in a saga ‘Endgame’ then expect The Mutants sequel to be called X-panded or something.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 22, 2022 1:11:52 GMT
The X-Men are far more well known than any of those other Marvel groups. Again, it doesn't matter because we're not talking about popularity here. What you're talking about is like naming a Justice League movie as "The Superheroes" or making a Batman movie called "The Vigilante". I’d argue that those hypothetical titles are much more vague in comparison, especially since there actually is a character in the DC Universe named Vigilante.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 22, 2022 1:37:14 GMT
Again, it doesn't matter because we're not talking about popularity here. What you're talking about is like naming a Justice League movie as "The Superheroes" or making a Batman movie called "The Vigilante". I’d argue that those hypothetical titles are much more vague in comparison, especially since there actually is a character in the DC Universe named Vigilante. The Justice League is the most popular superhero team around. Following your logic, that would be a reasonable title for their movie.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 22, 2022 1:53:07 GMT
I’d argue that those hypothetical titles are much more vague in comparison, especially since there actually is a character in the DC Universe named Vigilante. The Justice League is the most popular superhero team around. Following your logic, that would be a reasonable title for their movie. Superheroes are everywhere in both DC and Marvel. Mutants? Not so much.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 22, 2022 1:54:27 GMT
But why, why, why, why, why not calling this "UNCANNY X-MEN"? I'd be fine with that actually.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 22, 2022 2:57:31 GMT
The Mutants as a title could work as a prequel to the formation of the X-Men. If there's one thing I'm sick of is origin stories to characters we all know & await more content from. 200 minutes of an origin story of the X-Men, again, excites me not. I know... maybe we should have another Superman origin movie, Batman? Where'd he come from?? lols
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 22, 2022 5:26:52 GMT
The Justice League is the most popular superhero team around. Following your logic, that would be a reasonable title for their movie. Superheroes are everywhere in both DC and Marvel. Mutants? Not so much. There's actually quite a number of mutants in comicbook lore. Like I mentioned, even Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Heck, DC has a gang called "The Mutants". In the end, it's an ambiguous and very generic title that carries little impact or name recognition. It's just a bad title all around. This probably isn't a good hill for you to die on.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 22, 2022 5:32:41 GMT
Superheroes are everywhere in both DC and Marvel. Mutants? Not so much. There's actually quite a number of mutants in comicbook lore. Like I mentioned, even Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Heck, DC has a gang called "The Mutants". In the end, it's an ambiguous and very generic title that carries little impact or name recognition. It's just a bad title all around. This probably isn't a good hill for you to die on. The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are not part of the Marvel Universe.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 22, 2022 5:43:36 GMT
There's actually quite a number of mutants in comicbook lore. Like I mentioned, even Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Heck, DC has a gang called "The Mutants". In the end, it's an ambiguous and very generic title that carries little impact or name recognition. It's just a bad title all around. This probably isn't a good hill for you to die on. The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are not part of the Marvel Universe. Here's what I said: There's actually quite a number of mutants in comicbook lore.Again, if you want to limit it to just Marvel I believe I already gave you a handful of mutant teams existing a number of posts back. There's a huge amount of mutants in Marvel, not just the X-Men.
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Post by Jason143 on Jul 22, 2022 9:00:48 GMT
They missed a perfect opportunity in calling it The Mutantx to carry on the Latinix gender neutral verbage they seem so forced to push.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 22, 2022 13:50:48 GMT
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 22, 2022 14:59:48 GMT
I like that selection actually. Charles’ ethnicity isn’t strong canon AFAIAC. It wouldn’t even influence the casting of Juggernaut, as he was the step-brother of Charles. I wonder what they’ll do with Magneto. Will his origin still be connected to the holocaust? That would make him extremely old. Will they choose a more recent genocide to involve in his youth? Not many of those in Europe in the 60s-80s. So they may have to change his race too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2022 17:01:12 GMT
I was really hoping he’d be Dr Doom. But I like this too. He’s a fantastic actor.
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Post by Cat on Jul 22, 2022 17:28:22 GMT
Again, it doesn't matter because we're not talking about popularity here. What you're talking about is like naming a Justice League movie as "The Superheroes" or making a Batman movie called "The Vigilante". I’d argue that those hypothetical titles are much more vague in comparison, especially since there actually is a character in the DC Universe named Vigilante. There's a character in Marvel named Logan too.
Is there something about having X-Men or "X" in the title that doesn't work for you? I think it's the team's most defining characteristic. Putting an X in front of virtually any Marvel property conjures up the X-Men on the spot.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 22, 2022 17:29:53 GMT
I like that selection actually. Charles’ ethnicity isn’t strong canon AFAIAC. It wouldn’t even influence the casting of Juggernaut, as he was the step-brother of Charles. I wonder what they’ll do with Magneto. Will his origin still be connected to the holocaust? That would make him extremely old. Will they choose a more recent genocide to involve in his youth? Not many of those in Europe in the 60s-80s. So they may have to change his race too. I’ve thought the same thing for a while now. The passage of time will eventually make almost impossible for him to remain a Holocaust survivor. Unless they do something like “oh he ages slower than nonmutants.”
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