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Post by movieliker on Mar 14, 2021 19:35:23 GMT
VIRTUE SIGNALING !!!
This is a good, entertaining movie. The production values are great. Amy Adams is terrific. I gave it an 8/10.
But we've seen this formula before. Here it is in a nutshell;
- Male dominated military is stupid and afraid. Their solution to everything is violence and destruction.
- Female college professor uses intelligence to communicate and understand the aliens. She snatches peace from the jaws of imminent destruction.
These are the values signaled;
Men stupid
Women smart
Men violent
Women peaceful
Aliens sophisticated
Humans primitive
Oh my goodness . . .
Did you see it?
What do you think?
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Post by ck100 on Mar 14, 2021 20:08:56 GMT
Enjoyable Sci-Fi contact movie with Amy Adams in top form.
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Post by kolchak92 on Mar 14, 2021 20:16:50 GMT
How were you able to get her to watch it with you?
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Post by movieliker on Mar 14, 2021 20:37:24 GMT
How were you able to get her to watch it with you? We usually just have sex. But I thought we'd try something different this time. |
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Post by Vits on Mar 14, 2021 20:38:35 GMT
9/10 These are the values signaled; Men stupid Women smart Men violent Women peaceful Aliens sophisticated Humans primitive That's a very reductive way of looking at things. |
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Post by Jason143 on Mar 14, 2021 20:48:14 GMT
Here it is in a nutshell; - Male dominated military is stupid and afraid. Their solution to everything is violence and destruction. This isn't virtue signalling. If aliens did arrive in the real world, our militaries would probably be hostile and aggressively defensive. This is a key trait in masculine expression which is perfectly natural, as armed forces around the world are male dominated. Err I dont know how you come to this conclusion. They hired Amy Adams, she cant help her gender happens to be female. And a female is necessary in the role because of the mother-daughter relationship. Also women are more peacefully and inherent advocates of socialism because of their maternal instincts, so again perfectly natural. Most those things are verifiably true though lol. Women are more peaceful and men are more violent. Aliens with inter dimensional travel will be more sophisticated. |
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Post by Downey on Mar 14, 2021 21:02:25 GMT
Dull piece of shit movie.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 14, 2021 21:20:24 GMT
Aliens sophisticated Humans primitive Say what you want about Mars Attacks!, it hilariously mocked the shit out of this trope. Though I'd have to echo Jason's sentiments, there's nothing too unbelievable about the reactionary portrayal in the movie. Hell, your glibness about the aliens reinforces the movie's point. I don't think Amy Adams' vagine was necessarily the driving force of making peace. If anything, her character is a woman for the sake of the overarching mother plotline.
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Post by MCDemuth on Mar 14, 2021 22:18:08 GMT
Dull piece of shit movie.  Dull piece of shit comment
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Post by Downey on Mar 14, 2021 22:22:13 GMT
Dull piece of shit movie. Dull piece of shit comment Ouch, that's gonna hurt in the morning. Oh and the movie is still a dull piece of shit even after your legendary reply. |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Mar 14, 2021 22:53:24 GMT
3/10 I tried to like it but I just didnt. I was into it for the first 20 minutes or so but I just found it rather dull.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 15, 2021 0:28:23 GMT
I enjoyed that movie.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 15, 2021 2:18:13 GMT
Here it is in a nutshell; - Male dominated military is stupid and afraid. Their solution to everything is violence and destruction. This isn't virtue signalling. If aliens did arrive in the real world, our militaries would probably be hostile and aggressively defensive. This is a key trait in masculine expression which is perfectly natural, as armed forces around the world are male dominated. Err I dont know how you come to this conclusion. They hired Amy Adams, she cant help her gender happens to be female. And a female is necessary in the role because of the mother-daughter relationship. Also women are more peacefully and inherent advocates of socialism because of their maternal instincts, so again perfectly natural. Most those things are verifiably true though lol. Women are more peaceful and men are more violent. Aliens with inter dimensional travel will be more sophisticated. Obviously the virtue signaling has worked on you. There is no way the military would be so quick to attack alien space ships that haven't been threatening. So, the Amy Adams character would not have to save the day from a military hell bent on attack. Yes, men are generally more violent. But not all men are. Many men are pacifists. It's Hollywood liberal virtue signaling --- pro female, anti male and anti military. |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 15, 2021 2:25:36 GMT
Aliens sophisticated Humans primitive. Say what you want about Mars Attacks!, it hilariously mocked the shit out of this trope. Though I'd have to echo Jason's sentiments, there's nothing too unbelievable about the reactionary portrayal in the movie. Hell, your glibness about the aliens reinforces the movie's point. I don't think Amy Adams' vagine was necessarily the driving force of making peace. If anything, her character is a woman for the sake of the overarching mother plotline. There is no way the military would be so quick to attack alien space ships that haven't been threatening. So, the Amy Adams character would not have to save the day from a military hell bent on attack. |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 15, 2021 2:27:16 GMT
9/10 These are the values signaled; Men stupid Women smart Men violent Women peaceful Aliens sophisticated Humans primitive That's a very reductive way of looking at things. Well, that is the simple formula this movie (and endless others) are based on. These are liberal Hollywood values --- pro female, anti male and anti military. |
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Post by Marv on Mar 15, 2021 2:45:51 GMT
Haven’t seen it yet.
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Post by Vits on Mar 15, 2021 10:26:55 GMT
There is no way the military would be so quick to attack alien space ships that haven't been threatening. And what precedent do you have to make that claim? These are liberal Hollywood values --- pro female, anti male and anti military. I said "reductive" because it's a complex story where characters have different personalities and characteristics, yet you're trying to put them all into just a couple of boxes. And you're not even telling the truth, since Jeremy Renner and Tzi Ma's characters aren't antagonists. Admittedly, I haven't seen the movie in a long time, but I'm sure that if I watched it again I would see some female soldiers, even if they have just 1 line of dialogue. Other users on the thread have pointed out that Amy Adams' character needed to be female since her being a mother is relevant to the story... except that if you changed the genders of any character, nothing changes. I doubt that a writer with an agenda would do that. Speaking of, what's all this talk about Hollywood? Yes, it was produced by a studio, but the director is French Canadian.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Mar 15, 2021 14:02:54 GMT
Ya know, sometimes ya just have to let some of that shit go and enjoy a film for what it is: Entertainment. Didn't look for a message, didn't delve into hidden meanings, didn't look to see what modern day ethics and treatments were applied. I just enjoyed it as a film.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 15, 2021 14:06:51 GMT
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Post by janntosh on Mar 15, 2021 15:34:38 GMT
Haven’t seen this but doubt it is as good as The Arrival with Charlie Sheen
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