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Post by permutojoe on May 14, 2017 4:28:10 GMT
I think so. Music is nice, but moving pictures plus music. That's a whole nother dimension.
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 18, 2017 10:57:13 GMT
I'd place it light years below music.
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Post by Trigonomics on May 22, 2017 15:17:42 GMT
That, and silly putty.
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Post by karryon99v2 on May 28, 2017 5:07:05 GMT
The greatest art is surely not cinema, but music or books or the visual arts(paintings, sculptures, engravings etc.) |
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Post by Jillian on May 28, 2017 17:35:21 GMT
Imagination is our greatest asset which contributes to a unique society and civilization in the form of music, books, paintings, movies, medicine, technology, etc.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on May 29, 2017 1:02:22 GMT
Music-song, oral storytelling (get your mind out of the gutter), visual art (painting and sculpture). Film would be last.
It is the most complex, but often the least intellectual.
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Post by kuatorises on May 31, 2017 16:44:36 GMT
Music-song, oral storytelling (get your mind out of the gutter), visual art (painting and sculpture). Film would be last. It is the most complex, but often the least intellectual. How in the hell is this superior to paintings, sculptures, or even film? |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on May 31, 2017 17:10:40 GMT
How in the hell is this superior to paintings, sculptures, or even film? Homer's Illiad and the Odyssey are oral storytelling. Without that, no Shakespeare. It is also closely associated with music and song--in many cases oral poetry was sung. Marketplace storytellers in ancient civilizations were also common--probably a lot more than sculpture or painting. So I would say music (including oral forms) would be first. |
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Post by kuatorises on May 31, 2017 17:50:12 GMT
How in the hell is this superior to paintings, sculptures, or even film? Homer's Illiad and the Odyssey are oral storytelling. Without that, no Shakespeare. It is also closely associated with music and song--in many cases oral poetry was sung. Marketplace storytellers in ancient civilizations were also common--probably a lot more than sculpture or painting. So I would say music (including oral forms) would be first. I didn't ask what they were, I asked how they are superior? I will take a good movie over a book, poem, etc. any and every day of the week |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on May 31, 2017 18:29:52 GMT
I didn't ask what they were, I asked how they are superior? I will take a good movie over a book, poem, etc. any and every day of the week Music and poetry/oral storytelling are pretty much the same thing. Any art form that does not require electricity is going to have an edge, especially if we are talking cultural longevity. Music, sculpture, they are usually fairly weather resistant (look how well the pyramids are holding up). Shakespeare is still quoted hundreds of years later, the dramatic principles of Greek drama is still used (well, not so much in Hollywood anymore but it was used for a long time). Movies just can't compete with that long term accessibility. And consider the fact that many people are now watching movies on their cell phones. Not even the method one was meant to experience them. Movies may be the most visually and audio complex but ironically they are also the most fragile. |
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Post by general313 on May 31, 2017 18:31:15 GMT
Homer's Illiad and the Odyssey are oral storytelling. Without that, no Shakespeare. It is also closely associated with music and song--in many cases oral poetry was sung. Marketplace storytellers in ancient civilizations were also common--probably a lot more than sculpture or painting. So I would say music (including oral forms) would be first. I didn't ask what they were, I asked how they are superior? I will take a good movie over a book, poem, etc. any and every day of the week Yes of course, and the best movies are the ones with the best special effects and the biggest budgets. |
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 1, 2017 2:52:10 GMT
I didn't ask what they were, I asked how they are superior? I will take a good movie over a book, poem, etc. any and every day of the week Music and poetry/oral storytelling are pretty much the same thing. Any art form that does not require electricity is going to have an edge, especially if we are talking cultural longevity. Music, sculpture, they are usually fairly weather resistant (look how well the pyramids are holding up). Shakespeare is still quoted hundreds of years later, the dramatic principles of Greek drama is still used (well, not so much in Hollywood anymore but it was used for a long time). Movies just can't compete with that long term accessibility.And consider the fact that many people are now watching movies on their cell phones. Not even the method one was meant to experience them. Movies may be the most visually and audio complex but ironically they are also the most fragile. Can't compete? Movies not only compete, the blow literature away. The most popular book on the NY Times Best Seller list can't even compete with a bad blockbuster in terms of pop culture relevance, $$$, and people reached. It's not even a close and that's new books, not some long gone writer's stories. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 1, 2017 4:34:06 GMT
Can't compete? Movies not only compete, the blow literature away. The most popular book on the NY Times Best Seller list can't even compete with a bad blockbuster in terms of pop culture relevance, $$$, and people reached. It's not even a close and that's new books, not some long gone writer's stories. Wow you are so ignorant I have to hope you are kidding around. Have you seen Jurassic Park? Guess where that comes from? Frankenstein. Superman? Heracles. Batman? Odysseus. And do not even begin to tell me that media of the last 25 years which is dictated by Wall Street aholes, even begins to count as culture or have long term durability. Titanic is already forgotten. Harry Potter is heading for the dustbins too. HP Lovecraft: 'Myopic little Jews, insensitive to the majestic pageantry of history & tradition (for our pageantry is not theirs), repudiate the past & proclaim that the sole logical province of the poet & novelist is the pathology of neuroses & the sewer system of New York City. That is the "new Americanism". The real truth is, of course, that these radical innovators represent anything at all--i.e., merely represent the absence of something. What they lack is any coordinated background & unified antecedents whatsoever. Having nothing of their own, they try to assemble a hodge-podge of new & suddenly-born culture. Actually, what they achieve is merely an unplaced & unplaceable chaos.' I know that went over your head but it may not for others. |
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 1, 2017 13:07:52 GMT
Can't compete? Movies not only compete, the blow literature away. The most popular book on the NY Times Best Seller list can't even compete with a bad blockbuster in terms of pop culture relevance, $$$, and people reached. It's not even a close and that's new books, not some long gone writer's stories. Wow you are so ignorant I have to hope you are kidding around. Have you seen Jurassic Park?
Guess where that comes from?
Frankenstein.
Superman?
Heracles.
Batman?
Odysseus.And do not even begin to tell me that media of the last 25 years which is dictated by Wall Street aholes, even begins to count as culture or have long term durability. Titanic is already forgotten. Harry Potter is heading for the dustbins too. HP Lovecraft: 'Myopic little Jews, insensitive to the majestic pageantry of history & tradition (for our pageantry is not theirs), repudiate the past & proclaim that the sole logical province of the poet & novelist is the pathology of neuroses & the sewer system of New York City. That is the "new Americanism". The real truth is, of course, that these radical innovators represent anything at all--i.e., merely represent the absence of something. What they lack is any coordinated background & unified antecedents whatsoever. Having nothing of their own, they try to assemble a hodge-podge of new & suddenly-born culture. Actually, what they achieve is merely an unplaced & unplaceable chaos.' I know that went over your head but it may not for others. Oh, well clearly that means I have to like the one that came first more then. Ass. |
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 1, 2017 14:00:52 GMT
I think so. Music is nice, but moving pictures plus music. That's a whole nother dimension. I feel the same way for the same exact reason you mentioned. Movies (and certain TV shows at this point) can evoke emotion in me that no written words can. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 1, 2017 17:21:32 GMT
Oh, well clearly that means I have to like the one that came first more then. Ass. Donkey. Never said you have to like what came first, just stating facts of history. Ciao. |
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Post by shannondegroot on Jun 22, 2017 21:32:15 GMT
Virtual reality/story themed Video Games are our Highest Art form.
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