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Post by Skaathar on Apr 25, 2021 6:05:17 GMT
Would you say you like Anthonie Mackie in non-mcu movies and shows where he's the leading actor? I haven’t seen any of Anthony Mackie’s non-MCU films myself. There's a few on Netflix. Try them out, you might see what I'm describing of him being a bit dry.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 25, 2021 13:44:28 GMT
Completely agree. He feels more natural, almost as if he's adlibbing his scenes. Jordan is a good actor, but I guess I'm in the minority that thought he was lousy in Black Panther. The story begins in the 90s, but it felt like he thought his adult character's storyline also took place in the 90s. The mannerisms and lingo were cringeworthy at times. "Is the mask vibranium?" "Nah, I'm just feelin' it." Would you say you like Anthonie Mackie in non-mcu movies and shows where he's the leading actor? I would. Not every project is great, but I've always enjoyed his performances.
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Post by Stammerhead on Apr 25, 2021 13:47:09 GMT
I did enjoy seeing a Captain America with wings but could have done without that long speech afterwards. I hope the Captain America America salary is large enough to pay for a bigger boat.
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Post by Downey on Apr 25, 2021 14:18:34 GMT
Really? I think Anthony Mackie is a fine actor. His style is subtle and laid back but there’s nothing wrong with that. Also it will probably be more of an Avengers film, like Cap 3 was. Completely agree. He feels more natural, almost as if he's adlibbing his scenes. Jordan is a good actor, but I guess I'm in the minority that thought he was lousy in Black Panther. The story begins in the 90s, but it felt like he thought his adult character's storyline also took place in the 90s. The mannerisms and lingo were cringeworthy at times. "Is the mask vibranium?" "Nah, I'm just feelin' it." "But it felt like he thought his adult character's storyline also took place in the 90s"? What do you mean by that? Are you talking about his fashion sense? Yes he did look like a rapper but that still doesn't make Anthony Mackie a memorable actor. Demeaning Michael B Jordan to make Anthony Mackie look good is a losing strategy.
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Post by Lux on Apr 25, 2021 14:21:30 GMT
Really? I think Anthony Mackie is a fine actor. His style is subtle and laid back but there’s nothing wrong with that. Also it will probably be more of an Avengers film, like Cap 3 was. Completely agree. He feels more natural, almost as if he's adlibbing his scenes. Jordan is a good actor, but I guess I'm in the minority that thought he was lousy in Black Panther. The story begins in the 90s, but it felt like he thought his adult character's storyline also took place in the 90s. The mannerisms and lingo were cringeworthy at times. "Is the mask vibranium?" "Nah, I'm just feelin' it." I think you're talking about Michael B Jordan's fashion sense in Black Panther too but all that still doesn't make Anthony Mackie a memorable actor.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 27, 2021 18:05:42 GMT
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on Apr 27, 2021 19:18:43 GMT
I feel like this is kind of a demotion. I know this happens in the comics, but Falcon is one of, if not the first black superhero to not have “black” in his name. I think it’s more important to push original characters rather than getting the sloppy seconds of another.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 27, 2021 19:34:35 GMT
I feel like this is kind of a demotion. I know this happens in the comics, but Falcon is one of, if not the first black superhero to not have “black” in his name. I think it’s more important to push original characters rather than getting the sloppy seconds of another. I feel the same way. I would have preferred if the MCU just left the Captain America title with Steve Rogers and allowed it to die out once he dies. If they want to promote Sam as the next big thing then go for it, but leave him as Falcon. Let him be as Falcon. Promote him as Falcon. Rebranding him as Captain America makes it feel like he can only be a major hero by inheriting a title someone else already made great before him. It's like becoming a millionaire by inheriting money from your parents instead of building it up on your own.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 27, 2021 19:43:54 GMT
I feel like this is kind of a demotion. I know this happens in the comics, but Falcon is one of, if not the first black superhero to not have “black” in his name. I think it’s more important to push original characters rather than getting the sloppy seconds of another. I see what you mean. Not that Sam doesn't 'deserve' it, I just don't see why he has to become 'Captain America' in order to gain the respect of the country. Feels weird to take a guy with a completely different powerset and just call him something else. It would be like Peter Parker taking up the mantle of Iron Man after Tony died. We know him, we respect him, we're sure he's capable. But why would he want to be someone else? If anything with the shield and the patriotic theme but still keeping the wings, he should call himself American Eagle or something. It's a different costume with a new theme without trying to be someone else.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 27, 2021 20:34:44 GMT
Feels weird to take a guy with a completely different powerset and just call him something else. I actually think Sam is a less effective fighter with the shield, simply because he had to alter his fighting style in order to accommodate the shield. Sam is not a CQC fighter. I mean, he's not bad at it but it's not his forte either. We already saw how he was completely outmatched against Rumlow in a straight-up slugfest in CATWS, and in this show he couldn't take down an unarmed Batroc even when he had the shield and his new powered armor. If he had fought Batroc the same way he used to fight then he would have just shot Batroc. Heck, in Civil War he had no hesitations on directly shooting terrorists with rockets. Falcon is a long range fighter who has a few CQC stunts up his sleeve. Giving him the shield is forcing him to become a CQC fighter and it's making my head hurt from the sheer impracticality and inefficiency of it all.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 28, 2021 14:55:05 GMT
I'm good with it. My question - are we to expect Sam Wilson as major a cornerstone for Phase 4 as Steve Rogers was to 1-3? Because I'm not sure after being Rogers' sidekick for this long if I'm ready.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 19:38:12 GMT
Cool. I kind of expected that after Endgame. Not sure why we needed an entire miniseries just to come back to that point. To me this is the final confirmation that the streeeaaaming shows are just optional filler/prequels. The core stories will always be in the films. For fans who want the extra stuff they can watch the shows, but they will always be supplemental, not essential. I’m pleased that Feige was smart enough to do it this way.
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Post by poutinep on Apr 28, 2021 20:52:16 GMT
Here's my issue with this. I'm not convinced Anthony Mackie is a good enough actor to carry a movie this big. Had this been Michael B. Jordan or Chadwick Boseman or Idris Elba then I'd be a lot more excited for it. Really? I think Anthony Mackie is a fine actor. His style is subtle and laid back but there’s nothing wrong with that. Also it will probably be more of an Avengers film, like Cap 3 was. ehh I wouldn't count on that. The Civil War fracture - which necessitated the appearance of many other Avengers - set up Infinity War but I doubt they'll do that two Captain America movies in a row.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 28, 2021 21:29:47 GMT
Cool. I kind of expected that after Endgame. Not sure why we needed an entire miniseries just to come back to that point. To me this is the final confirmation that the streeeaaaming shows are just optional filler/prequels. The core stories will always be in the films. For fans who want the extra stuff they can watch the shows, but they will always be supplemental, not essential. I’m pleased that Feige was smart enough to do it this way. I don’t know if they should be described as “filler.”
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 23:14:57 GMT
To me this is the final confirmation that the streeeaaaming shows are just optional filler/prequels. The core stories will always be in the films. For fans who want the extra stuff they can watch the shows, but they will always be supplemental, not essential. I’m pleased that Feige was smart enough to do it this way. I don’t know if they should be described as “filler.” A bit harsh, I suppose. My point is that if one chooses to skip them they won’t really be missing anything essential. They are not required viewing for the McU.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 19, 2021 1:15:32 GMT
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 19, 2021 1:46:34 GMT
Ugh. I think we're getting into a state where I'm finding it harder and harder to call myself an MCU fan. Right now Multiverse of Madness and Love and Thunder are the only MCU projects I'm truly excited for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 2:17:57 GMT
I’m glad they’re doing it. This is really the only legacy character in the MCU that I’d care about. But… Sam isn’t exactly the most compelling character so they’ve got their work cut out for them to make him interesting. Looking forward to more Bucky more than anything else. I hope they can finally end his arc with the inevitable heroic sacrifice.
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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 19, 2021 2:19:18 GMT
Ugh. I think we're getting into a state where I'm finding it harder and harder to call myself an MCU fan. Right now Multiverse of Madness and Love and Thunder are the only MCU projects I'm truly excited for. What about Moon Knight? That COULD be good.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 19, 2021 13:41:04 GMT
I’m glad they’re doing it. This is really the only legacy character in the MCU that I’d care about. But… Sam isn’t exactly the most compelling character so they’ve got their work cut out for them to make him interesting. Looking forward to more Bucky more than anything else. I hope they can finally end his arc with the inevitable heroic sacrifice. We’ll find out. screenrant.com/captain-america-4-sebastian-stan-casting-reaction/
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