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Jul 25, 2022 2:17:21 GMT
Post by moviemanjackson on Jul 25, 2022 2:17:21 GMT
And how we as a society often have no issues profiting from trauma either of our own or off of others. As a person of color, I thought actually about Black Lives Matter and one of the founders of it who has been rumored to use the platform for her own capitalistic gain. hmm I feel like I am missing som ething here. (maybe I dozed off at the movie?) How did he profit from the trauma?? Sorry I ruined your original quote. After surviving the Gordy incident he has an area at the amusement park where people can see the shrine and hear all about the story for $50K. And "using" Jean Jacket as an act he feels like he can control because in his mind he survived a traumatic incident by bonding (he felt) with a wild entity.
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Post by hi224 on Jul 25, 2022 3:03:54 GMT
hmm I feel like I am missing som ething here. (maybe I dozed off at the movie?) How did he profit from the trauma?? Sorry I ruined your original quote. After surviving the Gordy incident he has an area at the amusement park where people can see the shrine and hear all about the story for $50K. And "using" Jean Jacket as an act he feels like he can control because in his mind he survived a traumatic incident by bonding (he felt) with a wild entity. I almost wouldn't mind a separate movie about Yeuns character, he's a bit disconnected from the narrative however his subplot actually is quite compelling.
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Jul 25, 2022 3:13:18 GMT
Post by merh on Jul 25, 2022 3:13:18 GMT
I think it showed his nature. That he had no qualms sacrificing a horse per show. how would that show/support that? He seemed to have a good relationship with animals, no? Or did I miss anything? The actor dude? Didn't notice he was an animal lover
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Post by hi224 on Jul 25, 2022 3:24:33 GMT
I think it showed his nature. That he had no qualms sacrificing a horse per show. And how we as a society often have no issues profiting from trauma either of our own or off of others. As a person of color, I thought actually about Black Lives Matter and one of the founders of it who has been rumored to use the platform for her own capitalistic gain. Certainly our need for self gratification(at the cost of our own lives), erasure from cinematic history of different racial identities, and Territorialism as well.
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Jul 25, 2022 3:34:04 GMT
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Post by merh on Jul 25, 2022 3:34:04 GMT
I felt it was slow in places (kid agreed) Kid placed it Get Out, then US, then Nope. I think it is better than Us, which surprised the kid, but I pointed out I don't like downer endings which yeah, made sense. I liked the Alien build, remembering Roswell was described as a weather balloon. I could relate to the sand dollar look (I buy the idea Octopuses are alien creatures so a sand dollar/jelly fish look worked) It's in the 7-8 range for me I agree with the Kids rating i would even consider putting US FIRST, but Nope is for sure taking a last place. Mostly becauze how slow and meandering the first hour was.. I'm a politics board regular. Over there they know my daughter decided she's a feminine boy & transitioned & all so 31 yr old trans male. I call him my kid most of the time So i won't misuse pronouns at first, though now I am getting better of thinking of him as him. What I like about Nope is it is a real fanboy movie. The Roswell thing, for instance. The sand dollar thing considering there has been suggestion UFOs are interdimensional travelers or have bases under the oceans.(when I pointed it out at lunch after the movie, he mentioned we've barely explored the oceans) He felt its also a giant comment on Hollywood/the industry. As a California born gal, I notice the California brand credits on movies & appreciate it. And the whole ancient aliens thing. It's a meme pops up on the politics board as an explanation for crazy stuff. "Aliens"
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 25, 2022 14:08:33 GMT
I have to disagree with the consensus in this thread and say I loved Nope. Get Out may have been more clever and is certainly more textured with social commentary, but as a viewing experience I'll take Nope every day. Haven't seen Us so I can't rank all of Peele's films. Also disagree that it was slow, I thought it was perfectly paced with a good mix of humor, backstory to create stakes and of course tension as the mystery unfolds. I was worried that after the reveal, the rest of the movie would become stale, but it was the opposite. Kaluuya is an incredible actor. I feel like you could cast him anywhere and he'd deliver a solid performance. He basically deadpanned his way through these ridiculous, extraordinary circumstances in this film and it felt 100% genuine. Honestly I wasn't very interested in it after seeing the first trailer. It was the second trailer that won me over, and gave a better sense of what the movie was actually about regarding story, tone, etc. First trailer made it look like Signs II, second trailer made it clear they were going to have fun with the concept but still keep it creepy. Full Spoilers Ahead It's the details that make this story so brilliant. The slow build to what's going on, the creature concept & design, all the little misdirects. It's one of those movies filled with memorable side characters, no matter how minor their roles. The audience is almost forced to invest in these characters against their will, if for no other reason than they're all such flakes. Everyone's backstory matters, and the fact that they have a backstory to begin with makes them more interesting than they have any right to be with their limited screen time. (Just think, that one woman survived getting her face ripped off by a chimp, only to be eaten alive be an alien creature! Talk about bad luck!)
The audience has no idea how relevant the flashback at the beginning (and the longer, even more disturbing version of it which appears later in the film) will eventually be to the plot. The clues were all there, but we didn't yet know how to put them together. Only a survivor of a terrifying incident with a trained animal would think he was the man to make a show of this creature; only an animal wrangler would know how to see the behavioral cues to predict and manipulate a creature like this. (Everyone else would either run or be awestruck and likely be killed.)
What I love the most about the movie is the ambiguity throughout. Was Gordy going to protect Ricky or kill him? We'll never know. The movie thankfully makes no attempt to address what the creature is or where it comes from. Is it actually dead at the end? Are there more of them? They got the 'Oprah shot,' but what will they do with it? What do they tell the press? Was Antlers a serial killer? These questions are all left up to your imagination, as the story simply ends with our heroes reunited, having barely survived this horrific alien encounter. I thought it was masterful storytelling. I would've loved this as an eight or ten episode streaming show, but even as a single serving it's amazing. Having said that, please don't ruin this with unnecessary sequels that delve into the lore, or origins or whatever. It's awesome the way it is.
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Post by Nora on Jul 25, 2022 15:11:08 GMT
hmm I feel like I am missing som ething here. (maybe I dozed off at the movie?) How did he profit from the trauma?? Sorry I ruined your original quote. After surviving the Gordy incident he has an area at the amusement park where people can see the shrine and hear all about the story for $50K. And "using" Jean Jacket as an act he feels like he can control because in his mind he survived a traumatic incident by bonding (he felt) with a wild entity. omg i totally missed the 50k part. thanks.
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Post by Nora on Jul 25, 2022 15:17:41 GMT
I have to disagree with the consensus in this thread and say I loved Nope. Get Out may have been more clever and is certainly more textured with social commentary, but as a viewing experience I'll take Nope every day. Haven't seen Us so I can't rank all of Peele's films. Also disagree that it was slow, I thought it was perfectly paced with a good mix of humor, backstory to create stakes and of course tension as the mystery unfolds. I was worried that after the reveal, the rest of the movie would become stale, but it was the opposite. Kaluuya is an incredible actor. I feel like you could cast him anywhere and he'd deliver a solid performance. He basically deadpanned his way through these ridiculous, extraordinary circumstances in this film and it felt 100% genuine. Honestly I wasn't very interested in it after seeing the first trailer. It was the second trailer that won me over, and gave a better sense of what the movie was actually about regarding story, tone, etc. First trailer made it look like Signs II, second trailer made it clear they were going to have fun with the concept but still keep it creepy. Full Spoilers Ahead It's the details that make this story so brilliant. The slow build to what's going on, the creature concept & design, all the little misdirects. It's one of those movies filled with memorable side characters, no matter how minor their roles. The audience is almost forced to invest in these characters against their will, if for no other reason than they're all such flakes. Everyone's backstory matters, and the fact that they have a backstory to begin with makes them more interesting than they have any right to be with their limited screen time. (Just think, that one woman survived getting her face ripped off by a chimp, only to be eaten alive be an alien creature! Talk about bad luck!)
The audience has no idea how relevant the flashback at the beginning (and the longer, even more disturbing version of it which appears later in the film) will eventually be to the plot. The clues were all there, but we didn't yet know how to put them together. Only a survivor of a terrifying incident with a trained animal would think he was the man to make a show of this creature; only an animal wrangler would know how to see the behavioral cues to predict and manipulate a creature like this. (Everyone else would either run or be awestruck and likely be killed.)
What I love the most about the movie is the ambiguity throughout. Was Gordy going to protect Ricky or kill him? We'll never know. The movie thankfully makes no attempt to address what the creature is or where it comes from. Is it actually dead at the end? Are there more of them? They got the 'Oprah shot,' but what will they do with it? What do they tell the press? Was Antlers a serial killer? These questions are all left up to your imagination, as the story simply ends with our heroes reunited, having barely survived this horrific alien encounter. I thought it was masterful storytelling. I would've loved this as an eight or ten episode streaming show, but even as a single serving it's amazing. Having said that, please don't ruin this with unnecessary sequels that delve into the lore, or origins or whatever. It's awesome the way it is. i liked reading your review of the moview more than the actual movie but one thing we agree on - Daniel is an Amazing actor. I am also considering that my dissappointment is really stemming from what I expected it to be uppn seeing the first trailer. I expected another “US”. And got Citizen Kane with aliens… so maybe thats the problem
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Post by merh on Jul 25, 2022 15:50:46 GMT
I have to disagree with the consensus in this thread and say I loved Nope. Get Out may have been more clever and is certainly more textured with social commentary, but as a viewing experience I'll take Nope every day. Haven't seen Us so I can't rank all of Peele's films. Also disagree that it was slow, I thought it was perfectly paced with a good mix of humor, backstory to create stakes and of course tension as the mystery unfolds. I was worried that after the reveal, the rest of the movie would become stale, but it was the opposite. Kaluuya is an incredible actor. I feel like you could cast him anywhere and he'd deliver a solid performance. He basically deadpanned his way through these ridiculous, extraordinary circumstances in this film and it felt 100% genuine. Honestly I wasn't very interested in it after seeing the first trailer. It was the second trailer that won me over, and gave a better sense of what the movie was actually about regarding story, tone, etc. First trailer made it look like Signs II, second trailer made it clear they were going to have fun with the concept but still keep it creepy. Full Spoilers Ahead It's the details that make this story so brilliant. The slow build to what's going on, the creature concept & design, all the little misdirects. It's one of those movies filled with memorable side characters, no matter how minor their roles. The audience is almost forced to invest in these characters against their will, if for no other reason than they're all such flakes. Everyone's backstory matters, and the fact that they have a backstory to begin with makes them more interesting than they have any right to be with their limited screen time. (Just think, that one woman survived getting her face ripped off by a chimp, only to be eaten alive be an alien creature! Talk about bad luck!)
The audience has no idea how relevant the flashback at the beginning (and the longer, even more disturbing version of it which appears later in the film) will eventually be to the plot. The clues were all there, but we didn't yet know how to put them together. Only a survivor of a terrifying incident with a trained animal would think he was the man to make a show of this creature; only an animal wrangler would know how to see the behavioral cues to predict and manipulate a creature like this. (Everyone else would either run or be awestruck and likely be killed.)
What I love the most about the movie is the ambiguity throughout. Was Gordy going to protect Ricky or kill him? We'll never know. The movie thankfully makes no attempt to address what the creature is or where it comes from. Is it actually dead at the end? Are there more of them? They got the 'Oprah shot,' but what will they do with it? What do they tell the press? Was Antlers a serial killer? These questions are all left up to your imagination, as the story simply ends with our heroes reunited, having barely survived this horrific alien encounter. I thought it was masterful storytelling. I would've loved this as an eight or ten episode streaming show, but even as a single serving it's amazing. Having said that, please don't ruin this with unnecessary sequels that delve into the lore, or origins or whatever. It's awesome the way it is. This is more where I was. I did not care for the first trailer but my kid wanted to see it. The second trailer worked better for me
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Post by moviemanjackson on Jul 25, 2022 23:37:21 GMT
I have to disagree with the consensus in this thread and say I loved Nope. Get Out may have been more clever and is certainly more textured with social commentary, but as a viewing experience I'll take Nope every day. Haven't seen Us so I can't rank all of Peele's films. Also disagree that it was slow, I thought it was perfectly paced with a good mix of humor, backstory to create stakes and of course tension as the mystery unfolds. I was worried that after the reveal, the rest of the movie would become stale, but it was the opposite. Kaluuya is an incredible actor. I feel like you could cast him anywhere and he'd deliver a solid performance. He basically deadpanned his way through these ridiculous, extraordinary circumstances in this film and it felt 100% genuine. Honestly I wasn't very interested in it after seeing the first trailer. It was the second trailer that won me over, and gave a better sense of what the movie was actually about regarding story, tone, etc. First trailer made it look like Signs II, second trailer made it clear they were going to have fun with the concept but still keep it creepy. Full Spoilers Ahead It's the details that make this story so brilliant. The slow build to what's going on, the creature concept & design, all the little misdirects. It's one of those movies filled with memorable side characters, no matter how minor their roles. The audience is almost forced to invest in these characters against their will, if for no other reason than they're all such flakes. Everyone's backstory matters, and the fact that they have a backstory to begin with makes them more interesting than they have any right to be with their limited screen time. (Just think, that one woman survived getting her face ripped off by a chimp, only to be eaten alive be an alien creature! Talk about bad luck!)
The audience has no idea how relevant the flashback at the beginning (and the longer, even more disturbing version of it which appears later in the film) will eventually be to the plot. The clues were all there, but we didn't yet know how to put them together. Only a survivor of a terrifying incident with a trained animal would think he was the man to make a show of this creature; only an animal wrangler would know how to see the behavioral cues to predict and manipulate a creature like this. (Everyone else would either run or be awestruck and likely be killed.)
What I love the most about the movie is the ambiguity throughout. Was Gordy going to protect Ricky or kill him? We'll never know. The movie thankfully makes no attempt to address what the creature is or where it comes from. Is it actually dead at the end? Are there more of them? They got the 'Oprah shot,' but what will they do with it? What do they tell the press? Was Antlers a serial killer? These questions are all left up to your imagination, as the story simply ends with our heroes reunited, having barely survived this horrific alien encounter. I thought it was masterful storytelling. I would've loved this as an eight or ten episode streaming show, but even as a single serving it's amazing. Having said that, please don't ruin this with unnecessary sequels that delve into the lore, or origins or whatever. It's awesome the way it is. This is more where I was. I did not care for the first trailer but my kid wanted to see it. The second trailer worked better for me Reverse for me! Loved the first trailer, disliked the second one.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 26, 2022 15:56:48 GMT
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Jul 26, 2022 16:05:31 GMT
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Post by Nora on Jul 26, 2022 16:05:31 GMT
now THATS a show I would watch and want to see a movie about. I wonder how many Nope viewers feel the same, tha Gordys subplot was the most interesting thing…
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Aug 2, 2022 1:36:31 GMT
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Aug 2, 2022 1:36:31 GMT
Well Nope gets a NOPE from me . Sadly. I loved both Get Out and US and was Very excited about Peeles new flick. But the trailer did me dirty. Such false adveristing Its a completelly diff movie (genre tone and ambiance wise) than the trailer makes u feel. I hate when traliers do that. I feel so cheated. It has some awesome scenes and Daniel Kaluuya is mesmerizing to watch as always but the plot and the genre is a big let down for me. Very hard to keep my attention, thought about walking out multiple time. 6/10 because there IS obvious talent and craft there, and cool design and effects, just not what I expected/wanted/enjoy on the plot and genre side. Too artsy for my taste. Critics will love it though no doubt. Its like Peele wanted to immitate Jim Jarmush or early Wim Wnders or something… especialy in the first half. which is too bad because Peele’s visual and plot ideas are unique enough to me. I saw people compare it to Spielberg but no way, except for a few shot maybe, this is too much of a slow burn and art-focused feat for Spielbeg who is extremelly plot and character driven. Oh well. Did you see Nope? What did you think? I pretty much agree with everything you wrote, except for the Daniel Kaluiya being mesmerizing part. It felt to me that he had the same empty expression throughout the movie.
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Aug 2, 2022 16:31:51 GMT
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Post by James on Aug 2, 2022 16:31:51 GMT
It was misleading but that's what I was kinda expecting and even his previous two films drifted from the trad horror movie style that a general moviegoer would expect. Peele is leaning more and more into the avant-garde type of filmmaking and that's not a bad thing though one complaint that goes along with it is that the film goes on for a bit too long and could have cut some scenes down. There's also one flashback sequence that, while interesting, I don't know where or how it fits with the story or themes but I guess that's the intrigue of it.
I liked the unique take on the alien invasion type and the creature itself was pretty uniquely designed and terrifying with intense horror and a bit of action in the mix towards the end, and the actors were all solid with Keke Palmer giving the best performance.
I liked it better than Us, but Get Out is still the best for me. Still pretty good. 7.5/10
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Aug 3, 2022 14:50:47 GMT
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Post by Nora on Aug 3, 2022 14:50:47 GMT
It was misleading but that's what I was kinda expecting and even his previous two films drifted from the trad horror movie style that a general moviegoer would expect. Peele is leaning more and more into the avant-garde type of filmmaking and that's not a bad thing though one complaint that goes along with it is that the film goes on for a bit too long and could have cut some scenes down. There's also one flashback sequence that, while interesting, I don't know where or how it fits with the story or themes but I guess that's the intrigue of it. I liked the unique take on the alien invasion type and the creature itself was pretty uniquely designed and terrifying with intense horror and a bit of action in the mix towards the end, and the actors were all solid with Keke Palmer giving the best performance. I liked it better than Us, but Get Out is still the best for me. Still pretty good. 7.5/10 i am surprised by how many people like Us the least. What did you not like about USs? I loved its originality its visuals its atmosphere, its soundtrack… pretty much everything about it.
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Aug 3, 2022 16:25:19 GMT
Post by James on Aug 3, 2022 16:25:19 GMT
It was misleading but that's what I was kinda expecting and even his previous two films drifted from the trad horror movie style that a general moviegoer would expect. Peele is leaning more and more into the avant-garde type of filmmaking and that's not a bad thing though one complaint that goes along with it is that the film goes on for a bit too long and could have cut some scenes down. There's also one flashback sequence that, while interesting, I don't know where or how it fits with the story or themes but I guess that's the intrigue of it. I liked the unique take on the alien invasion type and the creature itself was pretty uniquely designed and terrifying with intense horror and a bit of action in the mix towards the end, and the actors were all solid with Keke Palmer giving the best performance. I liked it better than Us, but Get Out is still the best for me. Still pretty good. 7.5/10 i am surprised by how many people like Us the least. What did you not like about USs? I loved its originality its visuals its atmosphere, its soundtrack… pretty much everything about it. I still liked Us, and I should probably give it another watch, but I remember the humour fell flat and something about the story just didn't come together for me. I do like the twist though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2022 1:24:56 GMT
Well Nope gets a NOPE from me . Sadly. I loved both Get Out and US and was Very excited about Peeles new flick. But the trailer did me dirty. Such false adveristing Its a completelly diff movie (genre tone and ambiance wise) than the trailer makes u feel. I hate when traliers do that. I feel so cheated. It has some awesome scenes and Daniel Kaluuya is mesmerizing to watch as always but the plot and the genre is a big let down for me. Very hard to keep my attention, thought about walking out multiple time. 6/10 because there IS obvious talent and craft there, and cool design and effects, just not what I expected/wanted/enjoy on the plot and genre side. Too artsy for my taste. Critics will love it though no doubt. Its like Peele wanted to immitate Jim Jarmush or early Wim Wnders or something… especialy in the first half. which is too bad because Peele’s visual and plot ideas are unique enough to me. I saw people compare it to Spielberg but no way, except for a few shot maybe, this is too much of a slow burn and art-focused feat for Spielbeg who is extremelly plot and character driven. Oh well. Did you see Nope? What did you think? Thanks for the review Nora! Always like reading your write ups on here. Even the critics seem to be really frustrated with this latest Jordan Peele joint. From the looks of it, it seems like Peele bit off more than he could chew here (imo he was guilty of that with his sophomore effort as well in Us. It went completely off the rails in the 3rd act despite a brilliant performance from Lupita) The trailers for Nope were all over the place and just looks too goofy for me to fork over any money to see this in theaters. I will eventually get around to watching it when it's streaming on HBO Max or Netflix. bump! Well it looks like I owe Jordan Peele a sincere apology because I thought Nope was really good! I will be thinking about this film for days now. I FTR, I can completely understand how divisive Nope is going to be but god damn, there were so many things that I really liked about it (imo Peele directed what may have been one of the most terrifying/ unsettling scenes since Bone Tomahawk Will definitely add a bunch more thoughts later on! I'm very happy that I did end up seeing this in theaters because the sound mixing / editing was utterly incredible! Ditto on the use of the IMAX cameras.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Aug 5, 2022 0:55:16 GMT
hmm I feel like I am missing som ething here. (maybe I dozed off at the movie?) How did he profit from the trauma?? Sorry I ruined your original quote. After surviving the Gordy incident he has an area at the amusement park where people can see the shrine and hear all about the story for $50K. And "using" Jean Jacket as an act he feels like he can control because in his mind he survived a traumatic incident by bonding (he felt) with a wild entity. Slight correction: he says that people normally have to pay to see that room, and that a Swedish family paid 50k to SLEEP there. It doesn't mean that the regular price he charges just for visiting the room is 50k.
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Aug 5, 2022 3:20:16 GMT
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Post by Nora on Aug 5, 2022 3:20:16 GMT
Thanks for the review Nora! Always like reading your write ups on here. Even the critics seem to be really frustrated with this latest Jordan Peele joint. From the looks of it, it seems like Peele bit off more than he could chew here (imo he was guilty of that with his sophomore effort as well in Us. It went completely off the rails in the 3rd act despite a brilliant performance from Lupita) The trailers for Nope were all over the place and just looks too goofy for me to fork over any money to see this in theaters. I will eventually get around to watching it when it's streaming on HBO Max or Netflix. bump! Well it looks like I owe Jordan Peele a sincere apology because I thought Nope was really good! I will be thinking about this film for days now. I FTR, I can completely understand how divisive Nope is going to be but god damn, there were so many things that I really liked about it (imo Peele directed what may have been one of the most terrifying/ unsettling scenes since Bone Tomahawk Will definitely add a bunch more thoughts later on! I'm very happy that I did end up seeing this in theaters because the sound mixing / editing was utterly incredible! Ditto on the use of the IMAX cameras. glad you enjoyed it. I am considering seeing it again to see if i would like it more knowing what i go to see. I agree the craft behind the movie was amazing.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Aug 6, 2022 0:16:19 GMT
Another movie that I found surprisingly enjoyable. I kind of hated Us, and the the reviews for Nope didn't make me think that it would be any better. But damn, I ended up liking it. 8/10
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