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Post by Arlon10 on May 28, 2017 10:33:47 GMT
Of all western philosophical outlooks Christianity is probably the one atheists find most appealing. That is of course their own interpretation of Christianity often described as "Christian Atheism." They like the philosophical outlook of Christianity as they understand it, but do not accept that Jesus or his father is "god" or that there is a Holy Spirit "god."
What about eastern philosophical outlooks though? Most of those are much more amenable to atheism, but especially Taoism.
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Post by faustus5 on May 28, 2017 11:41:15 GMT
Except for when they make the mistake of wandering into supernatural beliefs, which they do less so than the intellect-destroying religions of the West, I have more respect for Eastern religions than any other humans have invented.
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Post by progressiveelement on May 28, 2017 13:45:22 GMT
As with all religious things, to me, it is something other people do. 👍
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Post by maya55555 on May 28, 2017 14:43:16 GMT
faustus5
You read like you know of them superficially.
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Post by faustus5 on May 28, 2017 15:02:15 GMT
faustus5
You read like you know of them superficially. You read like an idiot who makes up crap based on zero evidence. I've read a couple books written by monks or philosophers schooled in Eastern religion. That doesn't make me a scholar, but it gives me a sound footing on what is going on in those traditions, enough to know they are vastly preferable to what came out of the Middle East. That's enough.
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Post by clusium on May 28, 2017 15:33:55 GMT
Of all western philosophical outlooks Christianity is probably the one atheists find most appealing. That is of course their own interpretation of Christianity often described as "Christian Atheism." They like the philosophical outlook of Christianity as they understand it, but do not accept that Jesus or his father is "god" or that there is a Holy Spirit "god." What about eastern philosophical outlooks though? Most of those are much more amenable to atheism, but especially Taoism. A lot of atheists look to Taoism, Buddhism, Jainism, and/or Confucianism, believing that there is no God or gods in them, but, they are mistaken. What most of these religions reject is a Supreme Creator. In reality, Taoism, Buddhism, & Jainism are polytheistic. As for Confucianism, it is monotheistic, but, not in the same way as Christianity or Sikhism. More along the lines of Deism.
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Post by phludowin on May 28, 2017 15:47:50 GMT
I don't know much about Daoism, and I'm not interested enough in it to learn more about it than its correct romanization. In short: I don't know and I don't care about Daoism.
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Post by Arlon10 on May 28, 2017 16:08:09 GMT
I don't know much about Daoism, and I'm not interested enough in it to learn more about it than its correct romanization. In short: I don't know and I don't care about Daoism. Yes, Daoism is what I meant. It was rendered in English as "Taoism" in the olden days when I went to school. OldSamVimes has a good point about the Dao De Jing. It is one of the best "books" of all time.
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Post by maya55555 on May 28, 2017 17:38:40 GMT
faustus5
Name calling,...now who is the idiot, eh?
Read a couple of books......WOW.
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Post by faustus5 on May 28, 2017 18:52:54 GMT
Read a couple of books......WOW.
Meaning I've already forgotten more about the subject than you will ever bother to learn in the entirety of your pathetic life.
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Post by maya55555 on May 28, 2017 19:01:16 GMT
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Post by Arlon10 on May 29, 2017 9:41:48 GMT
Of all western philosophical outlooks Christianity is probably the one atheists find most appealing. That is of course their own interpretation of Christianity often described as "Christian Atheism." They like the philosophical outlook of Christianity as they understand it, but do not accept that Jesus or his father is "god" or that there is a Holy Spirit "god." What about eastern philosophical outlooks though? Most of those are much more amenable to atheism, but especially Taoism. A lot of atheists look to Taoism, Buddhism, Jainism, and/or Confucianism, believing that there is no God or gods in them, but, they are mistaken. What most of these religions reject is a Supreme Creator. In reality, Taoism, Buddhism, & Jainism are polytheistic. As for Confucianism, it is monotheistic, but, not in the same way as Christianity or Sikhism. More along the lines of Deism. And we have to remember that whatever their books say, there are going to be people who mistake what they say. Groups come and go with more and less anthropomorphic views of deity East and West.
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Post by johnblutarsky on May 29, 2017 15:15:08 GMT
Of all western philosophical outlooks Christianity is probably the one atheists find most appealing. That is of course their own interpretation of Christianity often described as "Christian Atheism." They like the philosophical outlook of Christianity as they understand it, but do not accept that Jesus or his father is "god" or that there is a Holy Spirit "god." What about eastern philosophical outlooks though? Most of those are much more amenable to atheism, but especially Taoism. I'm trying to follow this as it pertains to atheism. Maybe I'm missing something. Atheism is simply a lack of belief in god or gods. Anything beyond that is outside the scope of atheism.
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Post by OldSamVimes on May 29, 2017 17:56:33 GMT
faustus5
Name calling,...now who is the idiot, eh?
Read a couple of books......WOW.
Maya, you should stick to making vapid comments about silly, funny topics. You can't do serious debate, you're not smart enough. You're welcome.
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Post by Arlon10 on May 30, 2017 8:51:14 GMT
Of all western philosophical outlooks Christianity is probably the one atheists find most appealing. That is of course their own interpretation of Christianity often described as "Christian Atheism." They like the philosophical outlook of Christianity as they understand it, but do not accept that Jesus or his father is "god" or that there is a Holy Spirit "god." What about eastern philosophical outlooks though? Most of those are much more amenable to atheism, but especially Taoism. I'm trying to follow this as it pertains to atheism. Maybe I'm missing something. Atheism is simply a lack of belief in god or gods. Anything beyond that is outside the scope of atheism. The issues involved here can be abstract and confusing, but one thing that should be clear to almost everyone is that a person who "lacks" belief is an agnostic. An "atheist" is a person who "lacks" the brains God gave geese.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 30, 2017 9:05:38 GMT
Is it really a lacking, or just a fear to use what was given to them? Geese can be excused. After all, they're just geese.
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Post by Arlon10 on May 30, 2017 11:15:05 GMT
Is it really a lacking, or just a fear to use what was given to them? Geese can be excused. After all, they're just geese. Part of it could be a lack of intelligence, but I agree part of it is something else. I think that they were born into a family with little or no tradition puts them at a disadvantage understanding tradition. Even intelligent people with good family support can find it difficult. The atheists here are a mere shadow of their former selves though, aren't they? Where's skyhawk0? It's slow board without them.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 30, 2017 11:22:32 GMT
Is it really a lacking, or just a fear to use what was given to them? Geese can be excused. After all, they're just geese. Part of it could be a lack of intelligence, but I agree part of it is something else. I think that they were born into a family with little or no tradition puts them at a disadvantage understanding tradition. Even intelligent people with good family support can find it difficult. The atheists here are a mere shadow of their former selves though, aren't they? Where's skyhawk0? It's slow board without them. Yes, you're not the only one to notice that. Maybe we became addicted to skyhawk0's infantile screaming multicolored rages.
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Post by cupcakes on May 30, 2017 11:34:37 GMT
tpfkar You should give us some more intellectual Arlon musings about how the gays may need to be killed. Arlon opines
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Post by Arlon10 on May 30, 2017 11:46:23 GMT
tpfkar You should give us some more intellectual Arlon musings about how the gays may need to be killed. I think you're more clever than you're letting on. That's what I think. I have, I'm certain, explained that the world today is vastly different from the primitive and barbaric times found in very ancient scriptures. Maybe you forgot about that.
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