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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Feb 5, 2017 1:29:48 GMT
What would you say are the most common anachronisms in films with a period setting? |
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Post by robin on Feb 5, 2017 19:02:19 GMT
I'd say certain types of cars, rifles and pistols.
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Post by mark on Feb 5, 2017 21:30:03 GMT
Typefaces and fonts - I am not sure how much of a sad geek you need to be to notice them but it happens a lot in films and TV series.
Signs, newspapers etc. written in fonts invented in the 1920s or 40s appearing in a film set in the 1880s or 90s seem particularly to catch film-makers out. |
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Post by misstique on Feb 6, 2017 8:25:20 GMT
I think it's usually the apparel (clothing and accessories) and weapons as well.
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Post by telegonus on Feb 6, 2017 8:35:12 GMT
Hairstyles on women, for one, going back to Biblical times (so to speak), one sees gals in classic films set in antiquity looking like bobby-soxers or sorority girls; and of course the makeup.
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Feb 6, 2017 9:23:34 GMT
Re makeup: Indeed, I get annoyed by films set in Victorian times featuring women wearing lipstick. Women back then didn't wear lipstick.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 5:14:33 GMT
A lot of period pieces about the Dark Ages have a tendency to portray it as being more advanced than it really was. I've seen a few set before the invention of catapults, but had them, anyway.
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Post by Pangolin on Feb 8, 2017 5:02:31 GMT
Roman soldiers wearing some sort of kit from Imperial times around 1 - 200 AD, when it's actually too old or too modern for the era that is depicted in the movie. Also white marble statues although they were painted in reality (the colors vanished over the centuries).
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Post by Blue on Feb 8, 2017 7:29:19 GMT
People speaking with modern phrases and accents/inflections. I can usually forgive it as it's nearly impossible to stay on top of *everything* but still.
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 8, 2017 15:09:15 GMT
Usually the misuse of music, especially pop music, to establish a "mood." I notice this all the time in movies and TV shows. If you're going to have a movie set in 1960, please don't use songs from 1963.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 15:23:00 GMT
The way people speak, the words and terms they use, so often it's like watching a fancy dress party rather than a period film.
Injecting current morality and political views into a time period which had completely different ideas.
Hairstyles, clothing, decorations and inventions.
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 8, 2017 19:08:50 GMT
The way people speak, the words and terms they use, so often it's like watching a fancy dress party rather than a period film. Injecting current morality and political views into a time period which had completely different ideas. Hairstyles, clothing, decorations and inventions. And I've noticed a lot of the women can't seem to handle the period gowns and dresses they must wear. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 19:15:35 GMT
The way people speak, the words and terms they use, so often it's like watching a fancy dress party rather than a period film. Injecting current morality and political views into a time period which had completely different ideas. Hairstyles, clothing, decorations and inventions. And I've noticed a lot of the women can't seem to handle the period gowns and dresses they must wear. Yes, they walk like apes in them at times. Most actresses now lack the curves to fill those dresses out too. Although she had the curves I really noticed it with Kate Winslet in Titanic she lacked the grace that a lady of her upbringing should of had. |
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 8, 2017 19:20:59 GMT
And I've noticed a lot of the women can't seem to handle the period gowns and dresses they must wear. Yes, they walk like apes in them at times. Most actresses now lack the curves to fill those dresses out too. Although she had the curves I really noticed it with Kate Winslet in Titanic she lacked the grace that a lady of her upbringing should of had. Francis Coppola's Dracula is another one where victorian women lack grace, charm and decency. The Lucy character--portrayed in Stoker's novel as the epitome of Victorian womanhood--was turned into a slut, someone who whored after men. Stoker made Lucy innocent, so her reappearance as a vicious vampire had a real impact. Coppola's Lucy is still a whore, albeit a vampire whore. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 19:27:09 GMT
Yes, they walk like apes in them at times. Most actresses now lack the curves to fill those dresses out too. Although she had the curves I really noticed it with Kate Winslet in Titanic she lacked the grace that a lady of her upbringing should of had. Francis Coppola's Dracula is another one where victorian women lack grace, charm and decency. The Lucy character--portrayed in Stoker's novel as the epitome of Victorian womanhood--was turned into a slut, someone who whored after men. Stoker made Lucy innocent, so her reappearance as a vicious vampire had a real impact. Coppola's Lucy is still a whore, albeit a vampire whore. I found Lucy to be a tease, and given the time period she is lucky those men didn't get together and have their way with her. The way those men were chasing her wasn't very realistic she was not wife material, especially for the time. And I agree, once she was turned there wasn't a very big difference in her behaviour. |
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Post by NJtoTX on Feb 16, 2017 0:38:12 GMT
People have really nice teeth.
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Post by J.B. on Feb 16, 2017 1:17:16 GMT
What would you say are the most common anachronisms in films with a period setting? For many late 19th and early-mid 20th century movies and shows, probably the hair is the most anachronistic detail. This is especially common for World War II films and TV programs. We've gotten better at historical hairstyles within recent years, I think, but it could be that it's mainly helped by the trend for mens' haircuts to be shorter along the sides and back. Between the 1880s or 1890s, up through the 1960s, mens' hair followed this general convention, for the most part. If you didn't have a short-back-and-sides haircut done every two, three, or four weeks, you would have been considered disheveled, possibly an eccentric or a hobo. Facial hair was also getting increasingly less common by the 1880s, getting smaller by each decade or so, and after a while, most men just shaved entirely. Womens' hairstyles are also frequently wrong, and reflect then-current trends more often than not. |
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 16, 2017 6:39:10 GMT
What would you say are the most common anachronisms in films with a period setting? For many late 19th and early-mid 20th century movies and shows, probably the hair is the most anachronistic detail. This is especially common for World War II films and TV programs. We've gotten better at historical hairstyles within recent years, I think, but it could be that it's mainly helped by the trend for mens' haircuts to be shorter along the sides and back. Between the 1880s or 1890s, up through the 1960s, mens' hair followed this general convention, for the most part. If you didn't have a short-back-and-sides haircut done every two, three, or four weeks, you would have been considered disheveled, possibly an eccentric or a hobo. Facial hair was also getting increasingly less common by the 1880s, getting smaller by each decade or so, and after a while, most men just shaved entirely. Womens' hairstyles are also frequently wrong, and reflect then-current trends more often than not. A great example of hairstyles as anachronisms occurs in John Carpenter's Halloween. The prologue takes place on Halloween night 1963. When Michael walks downstairs and outside, after killing his sister, his father pulls a clown mask off his face. We immediately see a blonde boy of approximately ten, with definite mid-70s hair. A shaggy do that would have been unheard of in the real 1963--which was definitely pre-Beatles. A boy in 1963 would either have short hair or a "GI haircut," aka as a "buzz cut" nowadays. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 14:51:43 GMT
Titanic is supposed to be set in 1912, but the characters act like its 1996. Which, of course, is when the film was shot.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Feb 17, 2017 15:03:55 GMT
There are often diegetic musical anachronisms, too--that is, music that occurs as part of the film's setting, including music that characters listen to, comment on, etc. It's interesting, though, that the diegetic anachronisms are not usually off by more than a few years. For example, a film might be set in 1976, and a character might have KISS' Love Gun in a pile of albums, or they might have a Love Gun-era poster on their wall or something.
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