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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 13, 2023 23:06:45 GMT
i am an idiot, and a lunatic So you got nothing but misquotes. Typical.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 14, 2023 13:46:48 GMT
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Post by Lux on Mar 14, 2023 19:19:18 GMT
That should've been the design they went for. The MODOK in Quantumania was an abomination.
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Post by scabab on Mar 14, 2023 20:34:16 GMT
And no one had heard of Shang Chi before 2021. There were complaints about him being too obscure, about it being "Asian Pandering", about how he had no place in the MCU, the usual nonsense. That wouldn't have mattered by then. It was only a thing for Guardians of the Galaxy because there hadn't really been any superhero movie of such a scale made about such unknown superheroes. By the time Shang Chi rolled around nobody was saying such things as plenty of obscure characters had found success for Marvel and even DC because of Suicide Squad. Anything like that would have been extremely minor and is always going to happen to some extent. But again wouldn't make for any significant amount. In general the movie received a lesser score because the movie just simply was not as good. The protagonist, the antagonist, the story, the humour etc was just worse. That was all there was to it, it just wasn't considered to be a great film like some others have.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 14, 2023 22:20:28 GMT
And no one had heard of Shang Chi before 2021. There were complaints about him being too obscure, about it being "Asian Pandering", about how he had no place in the MCU, the usual nonsense. That wouldn't have mattered by then. It was only a thing for Guardians of the Galaxy because there hadn't really been any superhero movie of such a scale made about such unknown superheroes. By the time Shang Chi rolled around nobody was saying such things as plenty of obscure characters had found success for Marvel and even DC because of Suicide Squad. Anything like that would have been extremely minor and is always going to happen to some extent. But again wouldn't make for any significant amount. In general the movie received a lesser score because the movie just simply was not as good. The protagonist, the antagonist, the story, the humour etc was just worse. That was all there was to it, it just wasn't considered to be a great film like some others have. And yet Shang-Chi still got hit with the "Oh he's too obscure, oh he's just Asian pandering, oh the actor isn't well known" nonsense.
Oh it would make for a significant amount, it definitely would. And did.
Namor was a better antagonist, but he offended all the anti-Latino folks who want to paint them all as violent druglords. And the story was better than BP1 ad well.
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Post by scabab on Mar 14, 2023 23:36:19 GMT
And yet Shang-Chi still got hit with the "Oh he's too obscure, oh he's just Asian pandering, oh the actor isn't well known" nonsense. Well he is obscure and the actor wasn't well known. There's also a very high chance they did make the movie because they did want to have an Asian lead for one of their movies so it is true. But none of this was remotely widespread to any significant degree. The movie never had any backlash of any worth.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 15, 2023 0:07:36 GMT
And yet Shang-Chi still got hit with the "Oh he's too obscure, oh he's just Asian pandering, oh the actor isn't well known" nonsense. Well he is obscure and the actor wasn't well known. There's also a very high chance they did make the movie because they did want to have an Asian lead for one of their movies so it is true. But none of this was remotely widespread to any significant degree. The movie never had any backlash of any worth. Oh it was, it very much was. It was all over Youtube, everyone was waiting for it to bomb.
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Post by scabab on Mar 15, 2023 0:41:23 GMT
Oh it was, it very much was. It was all over Youtube, everyone was waiting for it to bomb. According to YouTube there's one video by a popular spoof channel that got 679,000 views, two others that got 142,000 videos each and then no other video above 63,000 views that even mentions Shang Chi and a flop. That's it.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 15, 2023 2:52:57 GMT
Oh it was, it very much was. It was all over Youtube, everyone was waiting for it to bomb. According to YouTube there's one video by a popular spoof channel that got 679,000 views, two others that got 142,000 videos each and then no other video above 63,000 views that even mentions Shang Chi and a flop. That's it. WorldClassBullshitters, Nerdrotic, the Quartering, Geek and Gamers, off the top of my head.
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Post by scabab on Mar 15, 2023 10:56:31 GMT
WorldClassBullshitters, Nerdrotic, the Quartering, Geek and Gamers, off the top of my head. Well two of those make up the videos I just mentioned. I also know some of those channels too and they hate on everything that comes out anyway. Like the Critical Drinker, that's pretty much their thing. The same few channels moaning about everything.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 17, 2023 23:58:35 GMT
If we get a Ant-Man 4, please for the love of god don't let peyton reed direct again.
Let someone else take a shot at it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 18, 2023 12:12:46 GMT
If we get a Ant-Man 4, please for the love of god don't let peyton reed direct again. Let someone else take a shot at it. We won't.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 17:06:54 GMT
If we get a Ant-Man 4, please for the love of god don't let peyton reed direct again. Let someone else take a shot at it. I still can’t believe they brought him back for the third one.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 18, 2023 19:03:49 GMT
If we get a Ant-Man 4, please for the love of god don't let peyton reed direct again. Let someone else take a shot at it. I still can’t believe they brought him back for the third one. His original version of the movie was a bit more serious to my understanding, last minute reshoots added more humor to it. Even so though, his original cut wasn't that huge of an improvement compared to the finished product.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 19:40:16 GMT
I still can’t believe they brought him back for the third one. His original version of the movie was a bit more serious to my understanding, last minute reshoots added more humor to it. Even so though, his original cut wasn't that huge of an improvement compared to the finished product. That seems to be a recurring theme for Marvel lately. There’s also a lot of evidence that the original cuts of Dr Strange MoM and Thor LaT were considerably better before the execs demanded cuts and/or reshoots.
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Post by thisguy4000 on May 20, 2023 18:12:50 GMT
His original version of the movie was a bit more serious to my understanding, last minute reshoots added more humor to it. Even so though, his original cut wasn't that huge of an improvement compared to the finished product. That seems to be a recurring theme for Marvel lately. There’s also a lot of evidence that the original cuts of Dr Strange MoM and Thor LaT were considerably better before the execs demanded cuts and/or reshoots. I can’t imagine that L&T was the victim of studio meddling. It comes across more like Waititi was just winging it.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 22:31:47 GMT
That seems to be a recurring theme for Marvel lately. There’s also a lot of evidence that the original cuts of Dr Strange MoM and Thor LaT were considerably better before the execs demanded cuts and/or reshoots. I can’t imagine that L&T was the victim of studio meddling. It comes across more like Waititi was just winging it. The studio supposedly cut it down to two hours and deliberately removed Gorr scenes. Probably would’ve still been mediocre though. You are correct that it’s mostly on Takia. MoM is a much better example of studio meddling.
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Post by Power Ranger on May 22, 2023 14:28:15 GMT
I tried to watch it. It sucks.
Ant-Man is a guy who fights crime by manipulating his size. Make a film about that. Screw the quantum realm and the Ant-Family. Wasp is ok. She’s an original Avenger. But either have Hank and Janet or Scott and Hope. And ditch the daughter.
This film is the quintessential example of the MCU being consumed by its own largesse.
One thing is for sure: we won’t get another Ant-Man film in a while.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 22, 2023 15:56:53 GMT
If we get a Ant-Man 4, please for the love of god don't let peyton reed direct again. Let someone else take a shot at it. I still can’t believe they brought him back for the third one. I still can't believe he was given a trilogy. Seriously his Ant-Man movies are mid at best. Either Feige really liked working with him or no one else was interested in making an Ant-Man movie, thus forcing Peyton Reed on us again. His only good movie was a cheerleader film, which makes me wonder if he should direct a Cheerleader film set in the MCU. Maybe we'll finally get a good MCU film from him.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2023 17:45:50 GMT
I still can’t believe they brought him back for the third one. I still can't believe he was given a trilogy. Seriously his Ant-Man movies are mid at best. Either Feige really liked working with him or no one else was interested in making an Ant-Man movie, thus forcing Peyton Reed on us again. His only good movie was a cheerleader film, which makes me wonder if he should direct a Cheerleader film set in the MCU. Maybe we'll finally get a good MCU film from him. He probably made a great hired hand for the execs. He’s likely the kind of director who would never argue a studio note and do exactly as told. He didn’t do a bad job on the first so I can kind of understand why they brought him back for the second, but they were fools to think he could pull off an ambitious movie set in a fantasy sci fi world.
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