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Post by clusium on Mar 31, 2023 20:23:24 GMT
Yep. Why do you think God Decided to Flood everybody (according to practically every religion & culture that there is)? Hate to break it to you, kid, but the Biblical flood never happened. Are you literally that gullible? The flood is actually in all religions' stories.
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 31, 2023 20:47:38 GMT
Hate to break it to you, kid, but the Biblical flood never happened. Are you literally that gullible? The flood is actually in all religions' stories. A. That's complete and utter bullshit.
B. "Stories" don't matter. Verifiable evidence from geology does.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 31, 2023 21:59:27 GMT
I believe every organized society had those to keep the peace. Hard to build a community when it's okay to kill your neighbour and take his stuff. Yes, but, the cornerstone of all communities in ancient times was the particular spirituality. Besides that, it's one thing to say not to kill your neighbour & steal their stuff, however, in some cases, it was actually alright to do that people outside of your own community (in ancient times). If someone is outside your community, they probably aren't considered a neighbor. But it depends. Take for example ancient England, if you go raiding a Viking settlement, your King won't care unless he has an agreement with those Vikings. If he and the Vikings made an agreement to leave each other in peace and you go raid their camp, you have broken the law regardless of the fact there are 2 different religions at play. Because law and morality don't come from religion, they come from social obligations.
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Post by clusium on Mar 31, 2023 22:01:36 GMT
The flood is actually in all religions' stories. A. That's complete and utter bullshit.
B. "Stories" don't matter. Verifiable evidence from geology does.
A.Google the Great Flood. I can assure you that it is in practically all the world religion's myths. B. I was discussing with paulslaugh God's Laws & the laws of the land.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 31, 2023 22:02:11 GMT
Yep. Why do you think God Decided to Flood everybody (according to practically every religion & culture that there is)? Today we have gods and laws, and people still butcher one another. Myth busted.
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Post by clusium on Mar 31, 2023 22:06:33 GMT
Yes, but, the cornerstone of all communities in ancient times was the particular spirituality. Besides that, it's one thing to say not to kill your neighbour & steal their stuff, however, in some cases, it was actually alright to do that people outside of your own community (in ancient times). If someone is outside your community, they probably aren't considered a neighbor. But it depends. Take for example ancient England, if you go raiding a Viking settlement, your King won't care unless he has an agreement with those Vikings. If he and the Vikings made an agreement to leave each other in peace and you go raid their camp, you have broken the law regardless of the fact there are 2 different religions at play. Because law and morality don't come from religion, they come from social obligations. Still, it'd be kind of nice if you could travel somewhere, & not fear any kind of assault or attack or anything from locals, etc.
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Post by clusium on Mar 31, 2023 22:07:18 GMT
Yep. Why do you think God Decided to Flood everybody (according to practically every religion & culture that there is)? Today we have gods and laws, and people still butcher one another. Myth busted. We have penal systems today, for those who do not abide by such laws.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 31, 2023 22:30:25 GMT
Today we have gods and laws, and people still butcher one another. Myth busted. We have penal systems today, for those who do not abide by such laws. And people still kill one another so your gods had no effect.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 31, 2023 22:34:19 GMT
If someone is outside your community, they probably aren't considered a neighbor. But it depends. Take for example ancient England, if you go raiding a Viking settlement, your King won't care unless he has an agreement with those Vikings. If he and the Vikings made an agreement to leave each other in peace and you go raid their camp, you have broken the law regardless of the fact there are 2 different religions at play. Because law and morality don't come from religion, they come from social obligations. Still, it'd be kind of nice if you could travel somewhere, & not fear any kind of assault or attack or anything from locals, etc. It's a shame there isn't some kind of mystical being to protect us from that.
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Post by clusium on Apr 1, 2023 1:08:35 GMT
We have penal systems today, for those who do not abide by such laws. And people still kill one another so your gods had no effect. It's called Free Will. Anyhow, if the perpetrators do not face justice in THIS life, they face it in the NEXT!!!!!!
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Post by clusium on Apr 1, 2023 1:09:25 GMT
Still, it'd be kind of nice if you could travel somewhere, & not fear any kind of assault or attack or anything from locals, etc. It's a shame there isn't some kind of mystical being to protect us from that. God Sees it happen, & Pays the perpetrator accordingly.
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Post by Sarge on Apr 1, 2023 2:40:33 GMT
It's a shame there isn't some kind of mystical being to protect us from that. God Sees it happen, & Pays the perpetrator accordingly. Your god sees it happen, lets it happen, and does nothing, almost like there is no god.
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Post by Sarge on Apr 1, 2023 2:47:58 GMT
And people still kill one another so your gods had no effect. It's called Free Will. Anyhow, if the perpetrators do not face justice in THIS life, they face it in the NEXT!!!!!!That's a much later fable added to church beliefs.
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Post by clusium on Apr 1, 2023 3:24:31 GMT
God Sees it happen, & Pays the perpetrator accordingly. Your god sees it happen, lets it happen, and does nothing, almost like there is no god. He Punishes the perpetrator for the act though.
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Post by clusium on Apr 1, 2023 3:24:58 GMT
It's called Free Will. Anyhow, if the perpetrators do not face justice in THIS life, they face it in the NEXT!!!!!!That's a much later fable added to church beliefs. Its been there since the very beginning.
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Post by Sarge on Apr 1, 2023 4:16:55 GMT
That's a much later fable added to church beliefs. Its been there since the very beginning. Where?
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Post by Sarge on Apr 1, 2023 4:19:59 GMT
Your god sees it happen, lets it happen, and does nothing, almost like there is no god. He Punishes the perpetrator for the act though. No, we do, when possible. Just like we collect god's money, build his temples, and recruit his followers. God does nothing, the same as if there were no god.
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Post by Shiloh on Apr 1, 2023 4:24:31 GMT
He Punishes the perpetrator for the act though. No, we do, when possible. Just like we collect god's money, build his temples, and recruit his followers. God does nothing, the same as if there were no god. What would you have God do?
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Post by Sarge on Apr 1, 2023 4:34:35 GMT
No, we do, when possible. Just like we collect god's money, build his temples, and recruit his followers. God does nothing, the same as if there were no god. What would you have God do? Expose the sham of religion.
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Post by clusium on Apr 1, 2023 5:18:49 GMT
Its been there since the very beginning. Where? Since first few chapters in the Book of Genesis, where God Said not to even the forbidden fruit, but, the first couple did.
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