Post by Arlon10 on Jun 17, 2023 13:59:24 GMT
I fail so see where you "substantiated" any such thing. Why do I need to substantiate things and you do not?
The means of "substantiation" I used was "what everyone knows and is not contested." Everyone knows and it is not contested that there were Deists numerous enough to warrant historical mention, and likely more who are Deists but escaped notice.
Now can your claims be "substantiated" as known by all and uncontested? Certainly not. And I could find no other substantiation whatsoever.
I am aware that there are some people who believe child abuse is "characteristic" of Catholics, but it is not universally accepted that the problem is especially greater than anywhere else. Is celibacy the cause of the problem? Are nuns also child abusers? Does celibacy only make males a problem? Are there people who for whatever reasons remain celibate without any requirement who also abuse children? These are all valid questions, unlike your, "You have not substantiated ..." I suppose most people believe that child abuse exists. It is the placing of special blame that can be and is disputed.
I submit then that not everyone knows and it is much contested that child abuse is a characteristically Catholic problem. Knowing as much as you do about substantiation, perhaps you can make your case better? I realize how difficult it will be for you because not all cases are reported, and some reports could be false. I already mentioned my standing which is that if the Catholics want to remove the requirement for celibacy of the clergy, good luck to them.
I submit then that not everyone knows and it is much contested that child abuse is a characteristically Catholic problem. Knowing as much as you do about substantiation, perhaps you can make your case better? I realize how difficult it will be for you because not all cases are reported, and some reports could be false. I already mentioned my standing which is that if the Catholics want to remove the requirement for celibacy of the clergy, good luck to them.
It is also not universally accepted that Putin is evil... Again, perhaps you have held back your great skills of substantiation?
On one hand you want to complain that the God of the Bible was unusually cruel, and on the other admit that you might be just as cruel solving problems that are not even obvious.
It appears you have no sense of proportion.
If eighty percent of the population were evil, what might be done about that? Could there be enough jails? Absolutely not.
If eight percent of the population were evil, could there be enough jails? Even then probably not.
If 0.8 percent of the population committed acts considered evil, would there be enough jails? That is about how many are in jail now in the United States.
You are attempting to compare evil among eighty percent of the population to evil among 0.8 percent of the population. No person with a healthy sense of proportion would to that.
Furthermore you have not begun to "substantiate" that even 0.8 percent is really "evil." Confirming claims of child abuse remains problematic. Who might have claims to Crimea and surrounding territory remains problematic. You cannot understand that because your means of "substantiation" is whatever you prefer to believe.
Here you appear to be arguing a point which appeared on a different thread.
FilmFlaneur
Think of all the time and space I could save by merely listing the threads where you do substantiate anything.
Child abuse as a widespread and persistent phenomenon has been very amply demonstrated.
FilmFlaneur
What has been very amply demonstrated is that you are lost in the deep, dark forest or your confused and disconnected mind. You attempted to portray the God of the Bible as unusually cruel and the instigator of cruelty. It was explained to you that those examples of evil were far more extensive than any today and that you have no better solution. Then you started obfuscating and rambling in your typical manner about amply demonstrated evil, which you did not in fact demonstrate at all. nor even if it were of the proportions you imagine would it compare to the evil in ancient Bible times. Even then still you have no better solution. It was I who mentioned jails and treatments.
I cannot guess what your next obfuscation will be, but I am certain it will have nothing to do with anything.