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Post by FilmFlaneur on Mar 14, 2024 22:04:04 GMT
[after acres of verbiage] Friendship is individual from person to person. Friends are a collection of individuals, a business does not create interests, ties outside the area of what the business is made for. In other words then, business is not the same as friendship? QED. A brotherhood in this context is nothing but an association or community of people linked by a common interest, religion, or trade. That still does not mean they necessarily have to be friends. (In fact within some such organisations such people can still be at each other's throats, such as during industrial action or boardroom fall-outs.) Neither do I remember you using this word as a distinction before. danielspeiss.medium.com/brotherhood-in-business-the-value-of-vetting-and-building-trust-with-trusted-brothers-6b95fb82464 for instance only talks about best working with those who you know and trust. But even that of course is not always possible. I know and trust plenty of people within my organisation. Few of them I would call a 'friend', at least over what I would best describe as a genial professional acquaintance. Sure is. It appears you have moved from testing the eyesight of readers with poor formatting to now testing their patience. And what all this latest wordage of yours ultimately has to do with the religious, religiosity or religions is anyone's guess.
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Post by transfuged on Mar 15, 2024 1:16:12 GMT
I see you could not see the conceptual opposition. Indeed frienship is individual. Also share holders are but individuals collected, not associated. You know group communicate verbally. Shareholders do not. Business rules out verb. Only figures matters. Go to a meeting of shareholders. You’ll hear one common kind of word. A brotherhood is not limited to money in its ”verbalisation”. Friends, what do you do with friends ? You interact asocially, transactionaly. It is limited.
Ps verbiage: go and tell the academicians.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Mar 16, 2024 12:07:44 GMT
share holders are but individuals collected, not associated. Every limited company (in England and Wales) must by law have articles of association. But do go on.. And yet, just below, you mention shareholder's meetings, and there hearing things... While I agree in a company's report figures matter, I doubt if verbs are absent. And, as usual, one is not sure what all this pertains to. The common kind of word for this is 'obscurity'. One remembers how, just earlier you were confusing friendship with business. Here you appear again confused making out that friendship is asocial (ie the lack of motivation to engage in social interaction, or a preference for solitary activities) when it is much more the opposite; or that it is 'transactional' when that is more the province of business activity. The only 'transaction' within a typical friendship is the exchange of goodwill, support and mutual respect etc - which one doubts is what you have in mind. Neither do people consciously 'limit' friendships, being amicable only on certain days for instance, although one can presume and take a friendship too far, I will admit. I thought I was.
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Post by transfuged on Mar 16, 2024 20:17:55 GMT
Yeargh, I’m old, but not that old ! Patience, please. There is a link to what I posted’s source. It is the French academy website and I translated with deep L. It’s funny, I refer to verbal speech, and you do refer to written reports, as if not wanting to get my point. Oh, well, so be it.
About confusion, I beg to differ. There is no confusion. A It’s not about me. How to make friends books are clients guides. And when you’ll say thank you to your ”friend” client after you get something back from the transaction, maybe you’ll remember what I posted. Or not. So be it. B Friendship is selfish, business is selfish. Live and learn, or... well, live long, honey. C friendship is limited. Brotherhood is limitless. What do you do with friends appart from sharing their hangovers, or tugging at their hair while they are puking in the loo ? Going camping... to the Beach ? Having lunch ... But when the friends are in need, what actually happens if no higher spirit is at work ? Be truthfull, please. Your friend ask you, would you lend him a castle if you had six castles ? Of course ! Would you lend her a car when you had six cars ? Oh, indeed ! Now would you lend your shirt when you had six shirts ...? Of course not! You have six shirts. Brothers are bound, not friends, exactly because there is not a single written line saying that brothers are bound. Shareholders ? If they actually were bound, all the business lawyers would be starving for the justice halls would be empty. Again, what do you do with ”friends” in a simple manner ?🤔 😀😃🙂🙃😊😇😀😃🙂🙃😊😇😀😃🙂🙃😊😇😀😃🙂🙃😊💋
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Mar 17, 2024 19:04:34 GMT
It’s funny, I refer to verbal speech, and you do refer to written reports, as if not wanting to get my point. Oh, well, so be it. I referred to hearing things (ie verbal speech) at shareholder meetings as well, did I not? Your posts are confused and often rambling. Some of this can be put down of course to English not being your first language. This has been covered before when I highlighted the difference the publishing industry makes, although there is a degree of crossover. However most how to make friends books are in the self help and not business section (I should know as I run a bookshop) where the related titles are such things as how to gain confidence in meetings, gain more clients and influence people etc. Once again : a professional relationship need not involve friendship. I say thank you to the girl in the sandwich shop each day and yet do not see her as more than an acquaintance. This sort of thing, as usual. tells us more about your friendships (where you cannot distinguish between a friend and business relationship) than others. This seems a unproven assertion at best. It is true that I would do more for some friends than others, but not being a member of any 'brotherhoods' I cannot compare. My Masonic tenure has lapsed. I like to think I am always willing to help my friends if I can. But depending on the friend, limits change. A shirt would be no problem if they were in genuine need. It is unclear here whether refer here to fraternal relations or one of those 'brotherhoods' you have referenced before. If all along you have meant brothers, then my answers might have been different. But even then there can be hostile brothers. Just so you know. www.learnsignal.com/blog/shareholder-rights-responsibilities-corporate-governance/ it appears you really do lack an idea of what friendship constitutes, which is sad. But as I am unclear as to the point of all this quibbling on a religious notice board, unless you can clearly explain the relevance, I will have to leave it there,.
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Post by transfuged on Mar 18, 2024 2:26:44 GMT
It’s not about me, hon. And if I may, you are entitled to your own desire which obviously shapes the way you define frienship. I can only hope you won’t get hurt.
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Post by transfuged on Mar 18, 2024 2:29:42 GMT
And it was about the verb to share, which is written in the song you posted calling it a poem.
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Post by transfuged on Mar 18, 2024 2:50:41 GMT
The rules, the legal ones, when you read about them, it teaches you one thing, and then, you shut the book, and you live your life. The binding rule as it comes to business here is that speech is ruled out. No business court will hear a testimony on a business matter whatsoever. (When they get at each other throat and actually kill each other is another matter, a penal matter)
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