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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 11, 2017 19:16:48 GMT
With how badly received 'The Mummy' has been, on top of its less than spectacular domestic take, I think it's fair to say that the Dark Universe has an even bigger uphill battle than the DCEU did pre-'Wonder Woman'. With that being said, it doesn't seem likely that Universal is just going to cancel it altogether at this point. They seem to be far too invested in these movies to just stop after a single film. So the question is, what do they do?
Personally, I think the biggest mistake with the Dark Universe so far has been trying to copy the Marvel formula far too closely. We don't need $100+ million PG-13 action films starring about Mummies or the Frankenstein Monster. If Universal wants to build a modern shared universe with these classic monsters, that's fine, but they need to do their own thing with it. Don't try to compete with Marvel. They need to go back to the horror roots for these monsters.
That's my two cents anyway. Any other suggestions? Agree? Disagree?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 12, 2017 12:29:05 GMT
Write better scripts, it's that simple. The Mummy felt like it was written for an audience that lives in 1995. Hollywood releases a few movies each year with this problem (ID4 sequel was last year's classic example) and it really makes you scratch your head. Do they not watch movies to figure out what resonates with today's audiences? The Mummy had a lot of problems but its biggest issue was its protagonist. What was he doing? Why do we care? They gave him a goofy sidekick that had the same personality he did. It's as if they made them military (which they did not behave like in any way, shape or form) just to get them on that plane, which you could've done ten different ways. And what purpose did the sidekick have? He came back as a ghost, gave some unnecessary exposition the movie had already explained and cracked a couple jokes that didn't hit. All of the humor was off in this film. Cruise seemed miscast because his persona alone is worth more than anything this flick gave him to do. They should have played it as straight action/horror instead of forcing so many awful one liners. It's horror, it can't be a Marvel movie so don't even try. And for Christ's sake, give the hero something to do next time. The premise was solid and I genuinely enjoyed the Jekyll/Hyde stuff. I even like the SHIELD knockoff organization that hunts monsters. There were good ideas here, but not enough of them. And turning one of the most powerful villains (The Mummy!!!) you have in your stable into a potential ally in the very first film was a poor choice as well. Where do you go from here? Who's going to challenge this team? The Dark Universe is off to a terrible start, better scripts with an understanding of the material and what people want from it is the only hope for salvation. |
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Post by hi224 on Jun 12, 2017 14:19:01 GMT
Heres a question is the whole team supposed to possibly band together and fight monsters as well? None of these very characters were allies in classic movies at all.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 12, 2017 14:28:04 GMT
I'm wondering what they're going to fight. I liked the twist of Jekyll working for the monster hunters; you could build a team of 'street level' characters such as Frankenstein's Monster, Wolfman, Mr. Hyde etc., taking on larger, more mystical foes such as Dracula or the Mummy. But they really tipped the scales with the ending of The Mummy so I don't know what they're going to do now.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 13, 2017 22:35:02 GMT
I'm wondering what they're going to fight. I liked the twist of Jekyll working for the monster hunters; you could build a team of 'street level' characters such as Frankenstein's Monster, Wolfman, Mr. Hyde etc., taking on larger, more mystical foes such as Dracula or the Mummy. But they really tipped the scales with the ending of The Mummy so I don't know what they're going to do now. I'll never see The Mummy, what was the ending? |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 13, 2017 23:58:12 GMT
I'm wondering what they're going to fight. I liked the twist of Jekyll working for the monster hunters; you could build a team of 'street level' characters such as Frankenstein's Monster, Wolfman, Mr. Hyde etc., taking on larger, more mystical foes such as Dracula or the Mummy. But they really tipped the scales with the ending of The Mummy so I don't know what they're going to do now. I'll never see The Mummy, what was the ending? Tom Cruise takes the Mummy's powers and becomes the Mummy. He's last seen in the desert with his freshly resurrected friend. He appears to have the same personality he had the rest of the film, and Crowe's character suggests the Mummy could now be another ally in the fight against evil.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 14, 2017 0:00:03 GMT
I'm wondering what they're going to fight. I liked the twist of Jekyll working for the monster hunters; you could build a team of 'street level' characters such as Frankenstein's Monster, Wolfman, Mr. Hyde etc., taking on larger, more mystical foes such as Dracula or the Mummy. But they really tipped the scales with the ending of The Mummy so I don't know what they're going to do now. I'll never see The Mummy, what was the ending? She finally found The Daddy. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 14, 2017 0:24:23 GMT
I'll never see The Mummy, what was the ending? Tom Cruise takes the Mummy's powers and becomes the Mummy. He's last seen in the desert with his freshly resurrected friend. He appears to have the same personality he had the rest of the film, and Crowe's character suggests the Mummy could now be another ally in the fight against evil.
That's not terrible I guess. I of course don't know the context of it, so I'm not real sure what to think. Thanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 5:10:50 GMT
Tom Cruise takes the Mummy's powers and becomes the Mummy. He's last seen in the desert with his freshly resurrected friend. He appears to have the same personality he had the rest of the film, and Crowe's character suggests the Mummy could now be another ally in the fight against evil.
That's not terrible I guess. I of course don't know the context of it, so I'm not real sure what to think. Thanks. Uh, it's actually easier to understand if you've ever seen Avatar: The Last Airbender and/or The Legend of Korra. Basically, the film ends with Tom Cruise becoming the avatar of Set, the Egyptian god of death's avatar. He can now resurrect people at will.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jun 14, 2017 23:10:24 GMT
Make more films but be more diverse and don't hammer in the fact that its a shared continuity building up to something greater, if they do then do it subtlety or in a way that it benefits following entries in the franchise.
In my opinion, the only movie where the budget should be gigantic and action heavy is when they eventually crossover into one film, but prior engagements should be low budget affairs that play up on atmosphere and character growth with genuine thrills. Do period pieces, contemporary stories, even go off-world and into different dimensions, and for fun make black and white versions if they're successful enough, or heck the other way around and release them as black and white features with a colored version released for a minimal period of time.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 14, 2017 23:11:57 GMT
Make more films but be more diverse and don't hammer in the fact that its a shared continuity building up to something greater, if they do then do it subtlety or in a way that it benefits following entries in the franchise. In my opinion, the only movie where the budget should be gigantic and action heavy is when they eventually crossover into one film, but prior engagements should be low budget affairs that play up on atmosphere and character growth with genuine thrills. Do period pieces, contemporary stories, even go off-world and into different dimensions, and for fun make black and white versions if they're successful enough, or heck the other way around and release them as black and white features with a colored version released for a minimal period of time.  |
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Post by NewtJorden on Jun 17, 2017 22:47:59 GMT
What they should have do was to wait to see how The Mummy was going to do before planning a whole universe.
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Post by HorrorMetal on May 15, 2018 16:44:24 GMT
Start over and completely ignore The Mummy. I'd love to see a modern adaption with all the classic monsters coming together but they have to get it right.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 24, 2018 23:14:27 GMT
GIVE THE DARK A UNIVERSE!
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Post by spooner5020 on May 26, 2018 17:11:01 GMT
GIVE THE DARK A UNIVERSE! Give Tom the Cruise? |
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Post by politicidal on May 27, 2018 19:42:30 GMT
Start over and completely ignore The Mummy. I'd love to see a modern adaption with all the classic monsters coming together but they have to get it right. This. Do something like in the vein of the '92 Dracula. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 0:13:50 GMT
Start over and set the movies in the same universe as the Mummy trilogy. Have Brendan Fraser reprise his role as Rick O'Connell and create a continuous story through each movie where Rick and other new characters encounter the different Universal monsters. It can all lead to a team-up movie where the protagonists of each movie must work together to defeat an army of the monsters.
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Post by DarkManX on Jun 1, 2018 5:11:29 GMT
First and foremost don't make these movies as a vehicle for the actor. The Mummy was a Tom Cruise vehicle and that was the last thing it needed to be. Tom Cruise doesn't need a vehicle he's famous enough as is.
A reboot would be a good start, possibly with actors who aren't so A-List. If they're in such a rush maybe just make a film with all of them in it and wait for individual films afterward.
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Post by reelreviews2 on Aug 16, 2018 6:34:05 GMT
1) Keep Alex Kurtzman, Damon Linedof, or David Goyer far, FAR away from ANY involvement whatsoever in the project.
2) Trying making ONE decent film that is a legitimate stand alone GOTHIC HORROR movie.
3) Decide what to do next once (and ONLY once) you've accomplished the first two, based on the box office returns, audience response, and critical reception.
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Post by leesilm on Sept 24, 2018 3:49:02 GMT
Make DRACULA UNTOLD 2.
Give she-MUMMY her own movie WITHOUT TOM CRUISE.
Make the prequel-ish DR.JAKYLL & MR.HYDE with Russell C.
....After that, start letting them interact. DU2 can have Vlad's creator mentioning the events of MUMMY or have a line about something he did where he crossed paths with Dr.Jakyll. In the solo-MUMMY film, have her meet up with someone who isn't as afraid of her as they should be, and their reason they give for this, "There is a man, well a monster really, used to be a prince back in the middle ages, and... after that, I have a new threshold for powerful, scary, and weird.".... then you can have the movie where she-Mummy, Vlad, J/H, Vlad's creator, possibly the babbayagga from DRACULA UNTOLD, and possibly any others they've scared up by then (Invisible Man, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Wolfman, Frankenstein, Bride of F.) to the mix to deal with something. Or, pitch Team A (Drac, Jakyll/Hyde, Wolfman, Bride of F.) against Team B (she-Mummy, Frankenstein, Creature f.t.B.L.) in some sort of match for an item that can magnify their powers over mankind (you gotta have a MacGuffin!) or eliminate them, so you've got a few who see this as a chance to be mortal/normal and the ones who see this as a chance to rule the world and bring it under the dominion of monsters - and you could have Jakyll/Hyde as a bit of a wildcard cause it depends which half of him you're dealing with.
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