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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 19, 2017 1:47:58 GMT
Once more, fans of the true Star Wars shall rule the boards. And we shall have... peace.  Oh, so fans of the original trilogy? Last time I checked, TFA fans tend to really like that one whereas I've seen way too much OT bashing from prequel fans. Enh. The OT is pretty much held aloft as universally beloved. I don't know of many, if any, prequel fans who dislike it at all. I can see how you might misconstrue some of their pro-prequel statements as "bashing" the OT. For instance, I think the acting and dialogue is about even across the six movies for which Lucas was principally responsible, if not a bit better in parts of the prequels; but since this comparison is often made in defense of prequels when someone is criticizing the dialogue or acting, etc., the person making the criticism infers incorrectly that the OT is being insulted when it isn't. So like, I'm often saying: "I disagree, I like the dialogue and acting just fine in all six movies and don't see a lot of variation," while you might be hearing, "The acting and dialogue is terrible in all six." That's just a misunderstanding inherent to the differing viewpoints we're bringing to the argument. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 1:51:55 GMT
Oh, so fans of the original trilogy? Last time I checked, TFA fans tend to really like that one whereas I've seen way too much OT bashing from prequel fans. Enh. The OT is pretty much held aloft as universally beloved. I don't know of many, if any, prequel fans who dislike it at all. I can see how you might misconstrue some of their pro-prequel statements as "bashing" the OT. For instance, I think the acting and dialogue is about even across the six movies for which Lucas was principally responsible, if not a bit better in parts of the prequels; but since this comparison is often made in defense of prequels when someone is criticizing the dialogue or acting, etc., the person making the criticism infers incorrectly that the OT is being insulted when it isn't. So like, I'm often saying: "I disagree, I like the dialogue and acting just fine in all six movies and don't see a lot of variation," while you might be hearing, "The acting and dialogue is terrible in all six." That's just a misunderstanding inherent to the differing viewpoints we're bringing to the argument. George Lucas only directed one of the original trilogy films. After that, the series was directed by guys who handled actors and dialogue better than him. Not only that, but Lucas directed the original '77 film back when he was still freshly practiced in directing movies. he directed Phantom Menace after 22 years out of the director's chair and IT SHOWS. Also, none of the acting and dialogue is improved in the prequels in any way, shape, or form. The characters, the acting, and the dialogue are all better in the original trilogy. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 19, 2017 2:01:30 GMT
Enh. The OT is pretty much held aloft as universally beloved. I don't know of many, if any, prequel fans who dislike it at all. I can see how you might misconstrue some of their pro-prequel statements as "bashing" the OT. For instance, I think the acting and dialogue is about even across the six movies for which Lucas was principally responsible, if not a bit better in parts of the prequels; but since this comparison is often made in defense of prequels when someone is criticizing the dialogue or acting, etc., the person making the criticism infers incorrectly that the OT is being insulted when it isn't. So like, I'm often saying: "I disagree, I like the dialogue and acting just fine in all six movies and don't see a lot of variation," while you might be hearing, "The acting and dialogue is terrible in all six." That's just a misunderstanding inherent to the differing viewpoints we're bringing to the argument. George Lucas only directed one of the original trilogy films. After that, the series was directed by guys who handled actors and dialogue better than him. Not only that, but Lucas directed the original '77 film back when he was still freshly practiced in directing movies. he directed Phantom Menace after 22 years out of the director's chair and IT SHOWS. Also, none of the acting and dialogue is improved in the prequels in any way, shape, or form. The characters, the acting, and the dialogue are all better in the original trilogy. ^right. My point exactly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 3:08:16 GMT
George Lucas only directed one of the original trilogy films. After that, the series was directed by guys who handled actors and dialogue better than him. Not only that, but Lucas directed the original '77 film back when he was still freshly practiced in directing movies. he directed Phantom Menace after 22 years out of the director's chair and IT SHOWS. Also, none of the acting and dialogue is improved in the prequels in any way, shape, or form. The characters, the acting, and the dialogue are all better in the original trilogy. ^right. My point exactly. Oh? So how come people generally enjoyed the acting and characters in the original trilogy back when they were still new and didn't have nostalgia on their side yet? I know that SW doesn't excel in great acting and dialogue, but the absolutely worst moments of acting and dialogue in the original trilogy never had people hating them. Yet those same elements from the prequels have the power to make people almost violently hateful. How come people will unironically quote the original trilogy with nothing but affection, but only quote the PT to mock it? Anakin Skywalker is infinitely more annoying than Luke ever was. Padme is infinitely less interesting than Leia was. McGregor's Kenobi somehow manages to be less interesting and compelling than Ford's Solo despite being played by a much better actor. Billy Dee Williams is cool and memorable as Lando, but Samuel L. Jackson was boring and bland as Mace Windu. James Earl Jones and David Prowse effortlessly outclass Ray Park, Peter Serafinowicz, Christopher Lee, and Matthew Wood in terms of creating a menacing force on the screen. Literally the only person who doesn't walk away with his ass kicked by his OT counterpart is Liam Neeson, who easily matches Alec Guinness in the role of the wise, older Jedi. Anthony Daniels has a downright quiet dignity next to Ahmed Best. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 19, 2017 3:29:29 GMT
^right. My point exactly. Oh? So how come people generally enjoyed the acting and characters in the original trilogy back when they were still new and didn't have nostalgia on their side yet? I know that SW doesn't excel in great acting and dialogue, but the absolutely worst moments of acting and dialogue in the original trilogy never had people hating them. Yet those same elements from the prequels have the power to make people almost violently hateful. How come people will unironically quote the original trilogy with nothing but affection, but only quote the PT to mock it? Anakin Skywalker is infinitely more annoying than Luke ever was. Padme is infinitely less interesting than Leia was. McGregor's Kenobi somehow manages to be less interesting and compelling than Ford's Solo despite being played by a much better actor. Billy Dee Williams is cool and memorable as Lando, but Samuel L. Jackson was boring and bland as Mace Windu. James Earl Jones and David Prowse effortlessly outclass Ray Park, Peter Serafinowicz, Christopher Lee, and Matthew Wood in terms of creating a menacing force on the screen. Literally the only person who doesn't walk away with his ass kicked by his OT counterpart is Liam Neeson, who easily matches Alec Guinness in the role of the wise, older Jedi. Anthony Daniels has a downright quiet dignity next to Ahmed Best. I'm not relitigating eighteen-year-old arguments about the prequels. I was talking about the degeneration of discourse that arises from people incapable of comprehending that someone might have a diametrically opposing viewpoint. You just demonstrated that. I thought you were on the same wavelength with the first response, but it seems we're speaking at cross-purposes. Me, up here; you, down there. I was making a meta-level commentary on the the types of arguments you're attempting to have with me -- and why they're futile and fairly stupid. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 3:45:12 GMT
Oh? So how come people generally enjoyed the acting and characters in the original trilogy back when they were still new and didn't have nostalgia on their side yet? I know that SW doesn't excel in great acting and dialogue, but the absolutely worst moments of acting and dialogue in the original trilogy never had people hating them. Yet those same elements from the prequels have the power to make people almost violently hateful. How come people will unironically quote the original trilogy with nothing but affection, but only quote the PT to mock it? Anakin Skywalker is infinitely more annoying than Luke ever was. Padme is infinitely less interesting than Leia was. McGregor's Kenobi somehow manages to be less interesting and compelling than Ford's Solo despite being played by a much better actor. Billy Dee Williams is cool and memorable as Lando, but Samuel L. Jackson was boring and bland as Mace Windu. James Earl Jones and David Prowse effortlessly outclass Ray Park, Peter Serafinowicz, Christopher Lee, and Matthew Wood in terms of creating a menacing force on the screen. Literally the only person who doesn't walk away with his ass kicked by his OT counterpart is Liam Neeson, who easily matches Alec Guinness in the role of the wise, older Jedi. Anthony Daniels has a downright quiet dignity next to Ahmed Best. I'm not relitigating eighteen-year-old arguments about the prequels. I was talking about the degeneration of discourse that arises from people incapable of comprehending that someone might have a diametrically opposing viewpoint. You just demonstrated that. I thought you were on the same wavelength with the first response, but it seems we're speaking at cross-purposes. Me, up here; you, down there. I was making a meta-level commentary on the the types of arguments you're attempting to have with me -- and why they're futile and fairly stupid. Oh? The argument's stupid and futile? So, you think everyone who hates the prequels walked into that theater wanting to hate them? No, we didn't. We walked in expecting to like them, and they failed to deliver on every imaginable level (and there is NO WAY you think 3P0 as is as annoying as Jar Jar Binks). There is a reason the prequels got stuck with their abominable reputation and why all the attempts to "rescue" them have failed. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 19, 2017 3:48:03 GMT
I'm not relitigating eighteen-year-old arguments about the prequels. I was talking about the degeneration of discourse that arises from people incapable of comprehending that someone might have a diametrically opposing viewpoint. You just demonstrated that. I thought you were on the same wavelength with the first response, but it seems we're speaking at cross-purposes. Me, up here; you, down there. I was making a meta-level commentary on the the types of arguments you're attempting to have with me -- and why they're futile and fairly stupid. Oh? The argument's stupid and futile? So, you think everyone who hates the prequels walked into that theater wanting to hate them? No, we didn't. We walked in expecting to like them, and they failed to deliver on every imaginable level (and there is NO WAY you think 3P0 as is as annoying as Jar Jar Binks). There is a reason the prequels got stuck with their abominable reputation and why all the attempts to "rescue" them have failed. Yikes. And yes, this particular argument is stupid and futile for the reasons I stated and mistook you for comprehending. You'd better hope Tristan doesn't read this; he'll have a field day. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 4:02:15 GMT
Oh? The argument's stupid and futile? So, you think everyone who hates the prequels walked into that theater wanting to hate them? No, we didn't. We walked in expecting to like them, and they failed to deliver on every imaginable level (and there is NO WAY you think 3P0 as is as annoying as Jar Jar Binks). There is a reason the prequels got stuck with their abominable reputation and why all the attempts to "rescue" them have failed. Yikes. And yes, this particular argument is stupid and futile for the reasons I stated and mistook you for comprehending. You'd better hope Tristan doesn't read this; he'll have a field day. Tristan doesn't concern me. The child is such a blatantly transparent troll that to be offended by any nonsense he types is beneath me. The idiot actually thinks "A Midsummer Night's Dream" is an original story. Yeah, because stories about fairies fucking with people's heads were ever original.[/sarcasm] |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 19, 2017 16:21:48 GMT
Yikes. And yes, this particular argument is stupid and futile for the reasons I stated and mistook you for comprehending. You'd better hope Tristan doesn't read this; he'll have a field day. Tristan doesn't concern me. The child is such a blatantly transparent troll that to be offended by any nonsense he types is beneath me. The idiot actually thinks "A Midsummer Night's Dream" is an original story. Yeah, because stories about fairies fucking with people's heads were ever original.[/sarcasm] Well, I'll let you sort that out with Tristan's Journal! I'm disappointed, though, because I thought you guys had agreed to a cease fire. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jun 19, 2017 20:31:58 GMT
Tristan doesn't concern me. The child is such a blatantly transparent troll that to be offended by any nonsense he types is beneath me. The idiot actually thinks "A Midsummer Night's Dream" is an original story. Yeah, because stories about fairies fucking with people's heads were ever original.[/sarcasm] Well, I'll let you sort that out with Tristan's Journal ! I'm disappointed, though, because I thought you guys had agreed to a cease fire.  well the RabidRaptor is as clumsy as he is stupid. I enjoy his foul mouthed, despair. Whenever you present established facts debunking his ignorant ramblings he will try to slime himself out of it by spanking these blind, deaf and mute echo chamber monkeys of his. There is a reason he is the laughing stock of each forum he plagues after all. Btw you cannot appease sociopathic bullies. Remember Biff from BttF 1? He needed a firm punch in the face to know his place, semper sic bullies! |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 19, 2017 21:03:22 GMT
Well, I'll let you sort that out with Tristan's Journal ! I'm disappointed, though, because I thought you guys had agreed to a cease fire. well the RabidRaptor is as clumsy as he is stupid. I enjoy his foul mouthed, despair. Whenever you present established facts debunking his ignorant ramblings he will try to slime himself out of it by spanking these blind, deaf and mute echo chamber monkeys of his. There is a reason he is the laughing stock of each forum he plagues after all. Btw you cannot appease sociopathic bullies. Remember Biff from BttF 1? He needed a firm punch in the face to know his place, semper sic bullies!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 21:22:25 GMT
Well, I'll let you sort that out with Tristan's Journal ! I'm disappointed, though, because I thought you guys had agreed to a cease fire. well the RabidRaptor is as clumsy as he is stupid. I enjoy his foul mouthed, despair. Whenever you present established facts debunking his ignorant ramblings he will try to slime himself out of it by spanking these blind, deaf and mute echo chamber monkeys of his. There is a reason he is the laughing stock of each forum he plagues after all. Btw you cannot appease sociopathic bullies. Remember Biff from BttF 1? He needed a firm punch in the face to know his place, semper sic bullies! Anytime you want to throw down, I'll be ready. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 20, 2017 3:39:45 GMT
well the RabidRaptor is as clumsy as he is stupid. I enjoy his foul mouthed, despair. Whenever you present established facts debunking his ignorant ramblings he will try to slime himself out of it by spanking these blind, deaf and mute echo chamber monkeys of his. There is a reason he is the laughing stock of each forum he plagues after all. Btw you cannot appease sociopathic bullies. Remember Biff from BttF 1? He needed a firm punch in the face to know his place, semper sic bullies! Anytime you want to throw down, I'll be ready. Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! ... |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 21, 2017 12:37:10 GMT
Well?! You guys never fought. What gives?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 18:06:41 GMT
Well?! You guys never fought. What gives? You checked for Raptor vs Koolaid on YT? |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 21, 2017 18:15:50 GMT
Well?! You guys never fought. What gives? You checked for Raptor vs Koolaid on YT? No! Good call though... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 18:19:28 GMT
You checked for Raptor vs Koolaid on YT? No! Good call though... I mean there is always camara's at a bitch fight. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 22, 2017 9:18:10 GMT
Imagine if both this board and DCEU were as active as the politics board. It would have been glorious!
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 22, 2017 15:46:49 GMT
Imagine if both this board and DCEU were as active as the politics board. It would have been glorious! I'm trying my best! |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 8, 2018 14:19:38 GMT
Imagine if both this board and DCEU were as active as the politics board. It would have been glorious! I'm trying my best! Good news! This board is no longer dying! |
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