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Post by hi224 on Jun 21, 2017 18:25:32 GMT
Which is lacking right now.
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Post by moviemeisters on Jun 23, 2017 15:46:33 GMT
I would say any or all of the following:
1. Strong suspense and thrills (Alien, Aliens)
2. Dramatic personal struggles (Aliens, Alien3, one scene in Resurrection, parts of Prometheus)
3. Neat new Sci-Fi concepts (parts of Covenant)
4. Characters not acting like complete imbeciles for the sake of the plot (Pretty much every film except for Prometheus and Covenant)
Prometheus and Covenant had some interesting concepts which, if better explored, could have made both films much better.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jun 30, 2017 10:05:37 GMT
consistency
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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 8, 2017 17:22:50 GMT
I want to find the creature as threatening as it was in 'Alien.' Don't get me wrong, 'Aliens' was classic and I love it, but reducing the creature to a 'bug' simplified the creature and made it harder to be afraid of.
If Parker or Dallas had a pulse rifle in 'Alien', it would have been like spraying Raid on a cockroach. Hardly the mysterious and seemingly unkillable creature we got in 'Alien.'
P.S. I love "Aliens." I've seen it hundreds of times and think it's fantastic. Just think it set the tone for future installments to dumb down the creature. You never know how smart it is in the first movie. In "Aliens" they jump straight into gunfire (looking at you autonomous sentry guns). Even the queen only displayed about as much intelligence as my dog.
Classic case of shining too much light on the mysterious parts. Cameron's good enough to do that, but what followed wasn't. They became giant hissing cockroaches.
This is why I like "Alien 3" though. While it tripped, it did strip some of the bug-like qualities from the creature. It seemed smart again.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Jul 13, 2017 13:09:24 GMT
What I never liked in the first four films was the whole conspiracy to get the alien back to earth so it could be studied/harnessed/trained for military purposes. As if we don't already biological and chemical agents today which aren't already more than plenty efficient - not to mention nukes, EMP etc. The notion that the alien should be super interesting to a futuristic military is as if the US army were to be particularly interested in a new spear with an extra resilient edge during WWII. Prometheus and Covenant had a more sensible angle: research for knowledge's own sake.
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Post by hi224 on Jul 13, 2017 15:39:54 GMT
What I never liked in the first four films was the whole conspiracy to get the alien back to earth so it could be studied/harnessed/trained for military purposes. As if we don't already biological and chemical agents today which aren't already more than plenty efficient - not to mention nukes, EMP etc. The notion that the alien should be super interesting to a futuristic military is as if the US army were to be particularly interested in a new spear with an extra resilient edge during WWII. Prometheus and Covenant had a more sensible angle: research for knowledge's own sake. Well one thing I had mentioned in another thread was it'd be nice to get more background on Weyland Yutani and their inner workings, we have gotten little bits through the series, but a more characterized aspect to them would be nice. |
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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 14, 2017 18:17:29 GMT
What I never liked in the first four films was the whole conspiracy to get the alien back to earth so it could be studied/harnessed/trained for military purposes. As if we don't already biological and chemical agents today which aren't already more than plenty efficient - not to mention nukes, EMP etc. The notion that the alien should be super interesting to a futuristic military is as if the US army were to be particularly interested in a new spear with an extra resilient edge during WWII. Prometheus and Covenant had a more sensible angle: research for knowledge's own sake. I never got this either. If there is one thing can say I liked about "Alien: Resurrection," it is that they examined how badly expecting to contain the aliens worked out. It never made sense to me that 'the company' wanted to weaponize them. It always seemed like a stupid plan to me. Go to Louisiana and weaponize the alligators...it will be easier, though will probably yield similar results. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 13:19:27 GMT
Well I liked Prometheus and wanted a continuation of that story. I read several fan fiction sequels and many were excellent.
If Prometheus made $100 million more we probably would have had it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 12:50:46 GMT
Sigourney Weaver. Bring back Ripley!!! 
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Post by hi224 on Aug 6, 2017 17:04:22 GMT
What I never liked in the first four films was the whole conspiracy to get the alien back to earth so it could be studied/harnessed/trained for military purposes. As if we don't already biological and chemical agents today which aren't already more than plenty efficient - not to mention nukes, EMP etc. The notion that the alien should be super interesting to a futuristic military is as if the US army were to be particularly interested in a new spear with an extra resilient edge during WWII. Prometheus and Covenant had a more sensible angle: research for knowledge's own sake. I never got this either. If there is one thing can say I liked about "Alien: Resurrection," it is that they examined how badly expecting to contain the aliens worked out. It never made sense to me that 'the company' wanted to weaponize them. It always seemed like a stupid plan to me. Go to Louisiana and weaponize the alligators...it will be easier, though will probably yield similar results. Which brings up a question i had, what is earth like in this universe? Still faring well or overrun by aliens hence inter galactic travel possibly? |
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Post by kuatorises on Aug 7, 2017 14:36:05 GMT
I would say any or all of the following: 1. Strong suspense and thrills (Alien, Aliens) 2. Dramatic personal struggles (Aliens, Alien3, one scene in Resurrection, parts of Prometheus) 3. Neat new Sci-Fi concepts ( parts of Covenant) 4. Characters not acting like complete imbeciles for the sake of the plot (Pretty much every film except for Prometheus and Covenant) Prometheus and Covenant had some interesting concepts which, if better explored, could have made both films much better. This is a tough one, because I do agree that the characters were particularly stupid in Prometheus, they broke protocol in the very first movie. Ripley was the one who wanted to keep Kane off the ship. |
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Post by MooseNugget on Nov 9, 2017 1:58:20 GMT
I want a black hole to suck up everything and end the series.
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Post by ravi02 on Nov 29, 2017 0:07:51 GMT
I want to find the creature as threatening as it was in 'Alien.' Don't get me wrong, 'Aliens' was classic and I love it, but reducing the creature to a 'bug' simplified the creature and made it harder to be afraid of. In "Aliens" they jump straight into gunfire (looking at you autonomous sentry guns). Even the queen only displayed about as much intelligence as my dog. The alien creature was always intended to have insectoid characteristics as Dan O' Bannon (the writer of the original Alien) envisioned. The creature's hatching from a host, multiple jaws, etc. were all influenced by insect biology. I still felt the creatures were intelligent in Aliens. They totally annihilate these heavily armed marines by sneaking up on them and destroying their unit one by one. The Queen also shows she's not a mindless monster when she tells her soldiers to step back during her standoff with Ripley. |
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Post by pete8680 on Nov 29, 2017 17:10:37 GMT
What I never liked in the first four films was the whole conspiracy to get the alien back to earth so it could be studied/harnessed/trained for military purposes. As if we don't already biological and chemical agents today which aren't already more than plenty efficient - not to mention nukes, EMP etc. The notion that the alien should be super interesting to a futuristic military is as if the US army were to be particularly interested in a new spear with an extra resilient edge during WWII. Prometheus and Covenant had a more sensible angle: research for knowledge's own sake. No, your rite. Aliens at it's core is Just a dum shooter type Video game. |
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Post by politicidal on Nov 29, 2017 17:47:04 GMT
Well I liked Prometheus and wanted a continuation of that story. I read several fan fiction sequels and many were excellent. If Prometheus made $100 million more we probably would have had it. Something like this. The story that Prometheus advertised. |
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Post by ravi02 on Dec 26, 2017 4:42:49 GMT
What I really want is to do away with another tired story where characters are trapped (on a planet, spaceship, prison, etc.) and have to kill the creature. I'd like an actual sci-fi/horror thriller with some interesting human characters in a major dilemma and somehow factor in the alien monster (but make it more the intelligent beings of the first two films and less the mindless monsters of the later films).
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Post by hi224 on Dec 26, 2017 9:20:14 GMT
What I really want is to do away with another tired story where characters are trapped (on a planet, spaceship, prison, etc.) and have to kill the creature. I'd like an actual sci-fi/horror thriller with some interesting human characters in a major dilemma and somehow factor in the alien monster (but make it more the intelligent beings of the first two films and less the mindless monsters of the later films). This. |
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