yeah Spectre was essentially what Quantum of Solace should have been. now I think Quantum of Solace is a piece of shit, but I like Spectre, and I do think if they want to help give Spectre more meaning then they need to take character and elements introduced in the film into the next.
I can't remember anything about QoS in order to label it as anything. That bloke from Butterfly and Diving Bell and something something facility in desert blows up.
That's exactly how I felt after watching it for the first time. I was surprised to find it actually improves on second viewing.
For me, I think the biggest issue with QOS was that watching it was like trying to eat an ice cream sundae in one bite. The potential was there, and the action was absolutely insane. But it just felt like one action scene, after another, after another, after another, after another, after another...So much was happening that I had literally no idea what was even going on for probably 80% of the movie.
With Spectre, I feel like it had the opposite problem: It was trying so hard to world build, while playing it safe, that nothing happened for LOOOOOOONG stretches. Not to mention that the Blofeld twist and reveal was too obvious and felt forced. In Connery's flicks, Blofeld had YEARS of buildup, his reveal in YOLT is still considered iconic and the main highlight of that movie.
Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 12, 2017 0:16:09 GMT
Quantum is legit one of my favorite Bond films. I love the title, and the feel of the entire film is quick paced and fluid. One thing it never gets credit for are a ton of great scenes and character moments, and I love it from start to finish. Even the musical ambiance. It's fantastic. Completely underappreciated.
Post by judgejosephdredd on Sept 12, 2017 1:15:44 GMT
On its own Quantum of Solace is pretty "blah", but if watching it directly after Casino Royale it actually really adds to the overall experience. Spectre was such a waste of potential, and trying to tie all prior movies together just didn't work at all, neither did Blofeld's motives to be a villain, either.
Post by Returnofmoviefreak on Aug 11, 2018 4:52:55 GMT
Spectre was wasted potential but I still think it was an okay movie and was actually good until the Blofeld twist. QOS was pretty underrated imo it's still a decent movie and even though both these movies aren't the best I still give them 7/10.
Also yes I do think these films are better than DAD and AVTAK. I understand Bond isn't supposed to be dead serious but honestly those two campier Bond films just took it too far and were just very poorly written movies. Spectre and QOS didn't have the best writing but I would still watch those two over DAD and AVTAK.