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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 15:35:26 GMT
Just for reference it's been adapted to something people actually play, for better or worse. So somebody has taken the concept and made it work:
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 21, 2017 16:30:49 GMT
It can come into play at any time. It just depends on the strategy.
Not at all. The team that is leading the blow out would do its best to catch the snitch as quickly as possible.
Don't let the details of a young adult novel's fictional game stress you out so much. It's bad for the heart.
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Post by Seto on Mar 22, 2017 8:49:17 GMT
Quidditch has always struck me as something invented by someone who knows very little about sport, or by someone who has little interest in what makes sport great. I've never seen J.K admit this in an interview, but she doesn't strike me as the sporting type.
Having said that, the chapter in The Prisoner of Azkaban where Gryffindor win the Quidditch cup is written really well. I've always felt such exuberance at Harry and his team's success, as if my own football team had won the grand final.
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Post by JHA Durant on Mar 22, 2017 9:01:03 GMT
The very idea that people actually play Quidditch for real without magic is both sad and hilarious at the same time.  |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 22, 2017 20:58:13 GMT
It can come into play at any time. It just depends on the strategy. Not at all. The team that is leading the blow out would do its best to catch the snitch as quickly as possible. Don't let the details of a young adult novel's fictional game stress you out so much. It's bad for the heart. You are completely missing the point.
If you are playing a game of football, and have dominated your way to a five score lead, and then some other guy who's off running around after a different ball gets it and suddenly you lose IT'S STUPID. This isn't a debate. It's dumb.
Even the video of the real version above only has the snitch worth thirty BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S STUPID TO BE WORTH 150!
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 22, 2017 21:06:54 GMT
You're completely missing the point: it's not a real sport.
In any case, even real sports have different points depending on the goals all the time. Basketball has 1, 2, and 3 point shots. American football has a touchdown worth 6 points compared to 3-point field goals. A bullseye is worth a lot in darts.
But let's take boxing. Imaging you've built up a great lead in points because you dominated the entire fight. Then the guy knocks you out with one second left; you lose everything despite dominating 11 out of 12 rounds. Even the real world dabbles in that.
This isn't a debate. It's a fictional sport played by wizards.
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Post by The Lost One on Mar 24, 2017 13:32:25 GMT
I think Quidditch was designed as it was so the focus when JK Rowling was describing a match could solely be on Harry and his specific task, with everything else just going on around him. But yes it's a deeply flawed game. For one thing a match could last 30 seconds or a week!
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 24, 2017 15:04:09 GMT
You're completely missing the point: it's not a real sport. In any case, even real sports have different points depending on the goals all the time. Basketball has 1, 2, and 3 point shots. American football has a touchdown worth 6 points compared to 3-point field goals. A bullseye is worth a lot in darts. But let's take boxing. Imaging you've built up a great lead in points because you dominated the entire fight. Then the guy knocks you out with one second left; you lose everything despite dominating 11 out of 12 rounds. Even the real world dabbles in that. This isn't a debate. It's a fictional sport played by wizards. Because boxing's goal is to knock you out. The points are only ever a tie breaker. So that didn't work.
And does basketball have a 1,2,3 and 20 point shot? No? Then I guess that doesn't work either.
Oh so it's a fictional sport and that makes being stupid ok for you. Got it.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 24, 2017 15:05:22 GMT
I think Quidditch was designed as it was so the focus when JK Rowling was describing a match could solely be on Harry and his specific task, with everything else just going on around him. But yes it's a deeply flawed game. For one thing a match could last 30 seconds or a week! This is actually a great analysis of it. Isolate Harry. Which kind of just highlights about how pointless the rest of it is. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 24, 2017 15:50:18 GMT
You're completely missing the point: it's not a real sport. In any case, even real sports have different points depending on the goals all the time. Basketball has 1, 2, and 3 point shots. American football has a touchdown worth 6 points compared to 3-point field goals. A bullseye is worth a lot in darts. But let's take boxing. Imaging you've built up a great lead in points because you dominated the entire fight. Then the guy knocks you out with one second left; you lose everything despite dominating 11 out of 12 rounds. Even the real world dabbles in that. This isn't a debate. It's a fictional sport played by wizards. Because boxing's goal is to knock you out. The points are only ever a tie breaker. So that didn't work.
And does basketball have a 1,2,3 and 20 point shot? No? Then I guess that doesn't work either.
Oh so it's a fictional sport and that makes being stupid ok for you. Got it.
And the goal in Quiditch is to catch the Snitch. Ignoring the football scoring. Tsk, tsk. Even the real world has unbalanced scoring. Deal with it. Yes, it's ficitional. Which is why my blood pressure doesn't sky rocket when I think about it. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 24, 2017 15:55:00 GMT
And the goal in Quiditch is to catch the Snitch. Ignoring the football scoring. Tsk, tsk. Even the real world has unbalanced scoring. Deal with it. Yes, it's ficitional. Which is why my blood pressure doesn't sky rocket when I think about it. Football scoring isn't unbalanced. A touchdown is worth twice as much as a field goal and you have a chance to get one notch above that.
Your blood pressure may not skyrocket, and yet here you are responding when you, ummmmmmm, don't care? Oh
Sorry but it's a silly sport. You don't have to worry about it. Bye.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 24, 2017 16:03:25 GMT
It is unbalanced. One team scores a field goal and a touch back, giving them a 5-0 lead. They can control the entire field for the rest of the game allowing no more scoring, yet one touchdown from the opposing team at the last second, and it's all over.
You're confused. Those are two separate things. I never said I didn't care. I can care about something yet not have an aneurysm about it.
Sorry, but you're stressing over something that has no impact on your life. You don't have to worry about it. Farewell.
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Post by pk9 on May 11, 2017 21:31:05 GMT
Personally, I think tennis scoring is stupid too. But it's a real sport.
JKR admitted the scoring is silly, I'm pretty sure it's actually mentioned in dialogue. But it's intentionally that way to make the wizard world seem stranger, like their currency denominations.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Jun 17, 2017 23:42:24 GMT
The very idea that people actually play Quidditch for real without magic is both sad and hilarious at the same time. A woman I used to work with plays Quidditch down in Oslo somewhere. She's under the delusion that Quidditch - or "Rumpeldunk" as per the Norwegian translation - is an historical sport, and is waaaay older than the books, dontcha know.  |
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Post by Karl Aksel on Jun 18, 2017 0:16:42 GMT
You're completely missing the point: it's not a real sport. That's not an argument. OP's point is that the rules are stupid, and explained why. That's the point. The sport being fictional has nothing to do with his point, so he's not the point misser here. And it is indeed stupid. Sports are always intended for spectators, and thus you cannot have two separate games going on at the same time. You need one focal point, or it's just going to be... stupid. Quidditch is two games in one, and there really is no reason for that. I guess Rowling felt that the game itself was too mundane and thought she'd spice it up with the snitch, which involves two people catching it - an even more boring game. But it was just a bad idea. Yes, it works in the books, but only because Rowling says it works. She gets to decide that everyone thinks it's great fun, but realistically - in terms of human psychology - they would do away with the whole snitch thing as they'd realize how much it detracts from the game. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 19, 2017 12:59:09 GMT
Actually, it is an argument. It's the same reason we don't hold fictional movies to the same scrutiny we do documentaries.
The OP does miss the point if he tries to hold a "magical" sport to real world conventions.
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Post by sagenesse on Jun 30, 2017 5:35:57 GMT
It's a wizarding sport so it wouldn't make sense. This is one of the best replies ever!!! |
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Post by ellynmacg on Nov 14, 2017 14:58:16 GMT
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Post by twothousandonemark on Nov 16, 2017 8:34:09 GMT
Its lone defence is if a match's margin is beyond the 150 mark. The losing team does not want to catch the snitch down 150+ because it would mean game over.
I thought there was a scenario mentioned in one of the books where catching it would've been bad, maybe I'm imagining things.
re. Tennis scoring, as a sports fan, I've yet to hear proper reasoning for 15, 30, 40, & advantages. At least tennis has the games, sets, & match scoring proper.
Wikipedia merely mentions theories about it, including a f'n ancient French ballad or something.
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