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Post by geode on Jul 14, 2017 5:57:23 GMT
"Creationists will believe what they want to believe. But they should know the consequences. Continued fighting to promote creationism is hurting religion’s credibility in an age when science and technology are perceived as reliable sources of truth and positive contributors to society. Anecdotal and polling evidence implicate religion’s anti-science reputation in the drift away from church involvement — especially among younger adults, nearly 40% of whom have left organized religion behind."
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Post by scienceisgod on Jul 14, 2017 6:46:40 GMT
"Creationists will believe what they want to believe. But they should know the consequences. Continued fighting to promote creationism is hurting religion’s credibility in an age when science and technology are perceived as reliable sources of truth and positive contributors to society. Anecdotal and polling evidence implicate religion’s anti-science reputation in the drift away from church involvement — especially among younger adults, nearly 40% of whom have left organized religion behind."
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Religion has always been around, across every corner of the globe. It seems like part of our biology is a need to believe in something bigger than ourselves. Creationism is a pretty harmless outlet for it. If we don't have creationism, these impulses will still exist and be directed elsewhere. Isn't it odd that at the same time religion is in decline, science is becoming softer, not harder? Science is attracting converts by becoming a surrogate religion, not by some triumph of rationality. Otherwise it would have already happened thousands of years ago. It's kind of like how when a niche product catches on in the mainstream, the company starts watering down everything unique about it and we have to move onto something else, rinse and repeat. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 14, 2017 9:52:27 GMT
"Creationists will believe what they want to believe. But they should know the consequences. Continued fighting to promote creationism is hurting religion’s credibility in an age when science and technology are perceived as reliable sources of truth and positive contributors to society. Anecdotal and polling evidence implicate religion’s anti-science reputation in the drift away from church involvement — especially among younger adults, nearly 40% of whom have left organized religion behind."
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Discussion of the topic is at an all time low, that much is obvious. I would say one of the most significant problems in society today is blind faith. It is not however blind faith in religion. Although that certainly can be a problem, the far worse problem is blind faith in science. Of course it really isn't science anymore when people have blind faith in it. The mere fact that you call the issue "creationism" shows how far off the mark popular notions of the issues are. Recently and perhaps still, a rather large majority of people believed that the issues are the same since Darwin's time, that religion is having a negative impact on science, and that science can solve problems previously understood to be beyond its scope. It can be most difficult to persuade a wrong majority that it is wrong. Especially in America lately voting has an almost "sacred" aspect that has been consulted on issues it never should have. There shouldn't be voting on issues in science. That's not how science works. Although part of the problem is a lack of intelligence, a more significant factor is likely that people are intelligent enough but fail to use their intelligence and prefer to depend on the prevailing arguments in the media, to depend on the apparent majority view. That means there is hope that a new majority can emerge that has a better understanding of the science and other issues beyond the scope of science. Too many people still depend on the media, especially television, to direct the public discourse. That's why you think the issue is "creationism" and why it isn't being discussed much lately. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 14, 2017 11:41:49 GMT
Religion is not based on creationism as defined by YEC. Even most creationists don't care about the subject. It is simply a part of a much grander belief system that focuses on hoes and faith than biological history.
The notion that religion is dying out is all well and good but it's flawed thinking to presume that a young person who decides to not do something somehow translates to them never doing it or returning to it considering nothing secular is particularly satisfying toward like ether.
After all, atheists aren't exactly going gaga over Darwin as much as they are focused on other more important aspects of life.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 12:19:50 GMT
"Creationists will believe what they want to believe. But they should know the consequences. Continued fighting to promote creationism is hurting religion’s credibility in an age when science and technology are perceived as reliable sources of truth and positive contributors to society. Anecdotal and polling evidence implicate religion’s anti-science reputation in the drift away from church involvement — especially among younger adults, nearly 40% of whom have left organized religion behind."
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Whilst it would be nice to believe that the unfounded superstition that is creationism - and the dishonest PR job for creationism that is "intelligent design" - are dying out in the US, I don't know that I believe it. Americans seem to be a superstitious lot by and large, and generally immune to facts. But I'm a cynic by nature, so who knows? I hope I turn out to be wrong. |
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Post by general313 on Jul 14, 2017 14:48:56 GMT
"Creationists will believe what they want to believe. But they should know the consequences. Continued fighting to promote creationism is hurting religion’s credibility in an age when science and technology are perceived as reliable sources of truth and positive contributors to society. Anecdotal and polling evidence implicate religion’s anti-science reputation in the drift away from church involvement — especially among younger adults, nearly 40% of whom have left organized religion behind."
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Whilst it would be nice to believe that the unfounded superstition that is creationism - and the dishonest PR job for creationism that is "intelligent design" - are dying out in the US, I don't know that I believe it. Americans seem to be a superstitious lot by and large, and generally immune to facts. But I'm a cynic by nature, so who knows? I hope I turn out to be wrong. Please don't judge all Americans by the uneducated supporters of creationism. We do have some innovators here. |
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Post by general313 on Jul 14, 2017 14:56:18 GMT
People are getting abused and tortured based on their religion and whatever. I think ProBoards needs to look into using CAPTCHA technology. www.captcha.net/ |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 14, 2017 15:48:14 GMT
People are getting abused and tortured based on their religion and whatever. A key point here is the "and whatever." 'A' attacks 'B' because 'A' thinks 'B' is immoral. What then? Should we defend immorality? Defending it from unusually cruel attacks seems appropriate, but does that mean we have to support immorality? At some point shouldn't say to 'B' that immorality is part of the problem and needs to be renounced? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 14, 2017 17:02:19 GMT
Whilst it would be nice to believe that the unfounded superstition that is creationism - and the dishonest PR job for creationism that is "intelligent design" - are dying out in the US, I don't know that I believe it. Americans seem to be a superstitious lot by and large, and generally immune to facts. But I'm a cynic by nature, so who knows? I hope I turn out to be wrong. Please don't judge all Americans by the uneducated supporters of creationism. We do have some innovators here. One question that you and your kind will never answer honestly or satisfactorily is the following: What difference does it make?  |
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Jul 14, 2017 18:18:27 GMT
Please don't judge all Americans by the uneducated supporters of creationism. We do have some innovators here. One question that you and your kind will never answer honestly or satisfactorily is the following: What difference does it make? Keep it to your ignorant selves, don't try and shoehorn it into public education, and it doesn't make any kind of difference. |
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Post by mikef6 on Jul 14, 2017 18:23:20 GMT
Yet, President Pence is on the horizon. Michael Pence, VP of the United States and former governor of Indiana, is a believer that Creationism should be required teaching is schools supported by tax dollars and conservative politicians, as you know, don't care what the people think or what is best for their constituents. They will pursue their "Christian" Sharia Law - putting practice of their own radical fundamentalism into the law books - and defy Constitutional Law without blinking an eye.
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Post by scienceisgod on Jul 14, 2017 21:34:04 GMT
One question that you and your kind will never answer honestly or satisfactorily is the following: What difference does it make? Keep it to your ignorant selves, don't try and shoehorn it into public education, and it doesn't make any kind of difference. How many genders are there? |
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jul 14, 2017 21:38:48 GMT
Keep it to your ignorant selves, don't try and shoehorn it into public education, and it doesn't make any kind of difference. How many genders are there? Aardvark snicker press moonbeam princess shoehorn. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Jul 14, 2017 22:20:55 GMT
How many genders are there? Aardvark snicker press moonbeam princess shoehorn. Science is just a religion for you too, eh? |
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Post by general313 on Jul 14, 2017 22:28:14 GMT
It is all created by our own power, our own minds and our own actions. Acknowledgement of this, means we can then take responsibility for all that is around us and within us. It is all an "illusion" anyway. Okay, then please stop thinking about Donald Trump. |
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jul 14, 2017 22:28:50 GMT
Aardvark snicker press moonbeam princess shoehorn. Science is just a religion for you too, eh? Yeah man, triangle sparkle zap smack dribble foot, it's so damn obvious. |
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Post by cupcakes on Jul 15, 2017 0:43:03 GMT
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jul 15, 2017 3:05:29 GMT
Yeah, but now it's being replaced by new stupidity (chem trails, antivaccers, global warming denial)
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Post by geode on Jul 15, 2017 15:48:48 GMT
Yeah, but now it's being replaced by new stupidity (chem trails, antivaccers, global warming denial) In my experience people who are advocates of these ideas are often creationists as well. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 15, 2017 18:38:48 GMT
Yeah, but now it's being replaced by new stupidity (chem trails, antivaccers, global warming denial) In my experience people who are advocates of these ideas are often creationists as well. Great minds do think alike then. |
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