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Post by koskiewicz on Mar 25, 2017 16:01:18 GMT
...duh...its fiction???
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Post by bb15 on Mar 26, 2017 7:53:56 GMT
Neither of these replies are satisfactory. I'll add that I like the film, but it's clearly hard for people to acknowledge that it doesn't make any sense. There can be no satisfactory answers to the inconsistencies in the story of "Interstellar". The movie is loaded with them but the mass audience did not care. This film is one of the highest rated science fiction films on IMDb. It also did big box office for a somewhat serious SF movie. - The Nolans are fine with their inconsistent scripts (see "Dark Knight Rises" for another example). Their films are popular, they make money and that's all that counts in Hollywood. Anyway, back to the lack of consistency in "Interstellar". I'll make my own list. * Dealing with the Blight. 1. The NASA staff live in a facility which builds air tight structures which have air without the blight. NASA is building an entire space station underground. - In the NASA facility the dust problem and the blight problem have been solved. - The society in the movie can put all of earth's population in giant structures (Cooper's Station) which can produce enough food, energy, heat, water in a place which has no blight. 2. Considering all that tech, the housing on earth could be completely changed. - Put all humans in giant structures which have the benefits of Cooper's Station on earth. - Take everyone out of their leaky farm houses or put the houses together and cover them in futuristic structures which control the blight. - Result; there is no need to leave earth. * Inconsistent space travel in "Interstellar" and time dilation; 1. One inconsistency has to do with the law of gravity. - Cooper's shuttle first needs huge booster rockets to get off of earth. And then on earth sized planets, it can take off and go into orbit with just its little Star Trek level rockets. On Miller's planet, which is next to the black hole, this shuttle, on its own, with its tiny rockets, can take off from the gravity of this planet and the black hole and go into space. 2. The time dilation in "Interstellar" of 1 hour to 7 years is much too large for the situation on Miller's planet as shown in the film. The gravity would need to be much stronger (by being right next to the black hole) for that amount of time dilation to occur. - It wasn't Kip Thorne's idea. He was told it had to be that way by Nolan. * For fans of this movie they seem to accept "Interstellar" as a film experience and don't nit pick it. I'm not a fan and the many tech/science inconsistencies made for a very unpleasant experience. But that's just my personal taste. I can see viewers being swept up in the emotion of the poor farmers and several characters crying later on in the film. And the result is a very popular / highly rated movie. Imo at least, BB ;-) |
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Post by paislene on Apr 4, 2017 22:41:07 GMT
BB15 , I think you're looking at semi-fictional sci-fi movies too literally . Of space exploration movies , Interstellar is one of the most inspiring visions of space travel , but the movie is also one of the most flawed recent attempts . Examples , Joe the Astronaut had absolutely no idea that just around the corner from his home , was a massive secret Nasa base . Example2 , The Nasa Team and Professor Brand , after decades of secret research , naturally accept Maverick Joe as head of the deep space project .
And of course the many problems you have listed too . In defense , I will say that the moviemakers are faced with a finite budget and time limit .
My next watchlist movie is Passengers (2016) which I haven't seen yet , but will soon . I would be interested in your view on that , BB15 !    
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Post by bb15 on Apr 5, 2017 11:19:37 GMT
BB15 , I think you're looking at semi-fictional sci-fi movies too literally . Of space exploration movies , Interstellar is one of the most inspiring visions of space travel , but the movie is also one of the most flawed recent attempts . Examples , Joe the Astronaut had absolutely no idea that just around the corner from his home , was a massive secret Nasa base . Example2 , The Nasa Team and Professor Brand , after decades of secret research , naturally accept Maverick Joe as head of the deep space project .
And of course the many problems you have listed too . In defense , I will say that the moviemakers are faced with a finite budget and time limit .
My next watchlist movie is Passengers (2016) which I haven't seen yet , but will soon . I would be interested in your view on that , BB15 ! Well, it just happens to be my curse with serious science fiction films that problems with story logic based on the rules established in the movie; like you have pointed out, that I have mentioned and which the OP listed, bug the heck out of me while I'm watching the film! It's a lot of complaints for Interstellar. As for Passengers, I've seen it and I'll write about that if anyone wants to discuss that movie. Imo at least, BB ;-) |
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Post by xystophoros on Apr 19, 2017 1:02:25 GMT
I think we can all agree, Interstellar looks great, but it makes absolutely no sense.
And yes, the bit about the gravity bothered me as well. If you need to strap your ship to massive fuel tanks to escape Earth's gravity, you're not getting off a high-G water world with thrusters. It's been a while since I've seen the movie, and correct me if I'm wrong, but they didn't actually show the effects of heavy gravity on the crew members who touched down on the water world, did they?
The "love" explanation in the ending was just awful. Total Hollywood tripe.
As for Passengers, I have a love/hate, or more accurately, like/dislike view of that film as well. I feel like Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence were both miscast, Pratt more so. In some respects I really liked the starship design, in others not so much. But most of all, there's just no getting over how creepy Pratt's character was. No matter what he did to make up for it.
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Post by bb15 on Apr 20, 2017 2:07:55 GMT
I think we can all agree, Interstellar looks great, but it makes absolutely no sense. Yes, that's about right imo. And yes, the bit about the gravity bothered me as well. If you need to strap your ship to massive fuel tanks to escape Earth's gravity, you're not getting off a high-G water world with thrusters. Agreed. ...they didn't actually show the effects of heavy gravity on the crew members who touched down on the water world, did they? Correct. There are so many science / logic problems in the movie that I skipped over that one. The "love" explanation in the ending was just awful. Total Hollywood tripe. Yes, it's syrupy sentimentality but that is one of the secrets to the Nolan's recent success. - Their scripts sometimes promote the idea about how good average folks are. - In "Interstellar" the farmers are suffering saints. And now the love of the universe will save them. Loving future humans do things to save the farmers. Hathaway drones on about love being the greatest power in the galaxy and so on. - The mass audience like being told by the Nolans how holy average folks are. As for Passengers, I have a love/hate, or more accurately, like/dislike view of that film as well. I feel like Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence were both miscast, Pratt more so. In some respects I really liked the starship design, in others not so much. But most of all, there's just no getting over how creepy Pratt's character was. No matter what he did to make up for it. "Passengers" only works imo if Pratt is seen as a selfish jerk. He is like a kind of classic Twilight Zone character who wants something, makes a deal with the devil / fortune teller and then things go completely wrong. For instance the idea of giving someone a love potion (which happens in the Twilight Zone) and the woman becomes completely dependent on the guy. - The best part of "Passengers" for me was when Lawrence found out about being tricked and she hated Pratt. - Of course there had to be a happy save the day ending. But that's what Hollywood does with big budget movies, tack on happy endings. Imo at least, BB ;-) |
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Post by pete8680 on May 15, 2017 0:25:16 GMT
Interstellar is a stupid movie that pretends 2 b smart.
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Post by tastytomatoes on May 13, 2018 2:06:43 GMT
Are you sure you watched the movie? Cooper is one of the few pilots who have actually flew out of a simulator. He became a farmer after NASA shut down. So how many movies have you actually watched? You're telling me you thought Nolan is the first director to put ordinary people in extraordinary situations lol.
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