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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 17, 2017 8:32:07 GMT
Do you believe the official story that Andrew Stanton had carte blanche on the film and screwed it up?
I don't. I think Disney HQ deliberately fucked it up as much as they could and sabotaged the marketing so it would fail.
Why? Because it is an old fashioned kind of story. An American alpha male who goes to another planet and becomes a hero. No neurosis or other weird failure psychological issues.
Can't have a white guy depicted like that under corporate Disney. White men have to fail so says the J tribe of Disney. Money is secondary to that (as Tim Allen's top rated show found out).
Must suck working for such assholes who cannot even be honest about it--they put the blame on the director and he is probably legally gagged from speaking about it truthfully.
There were things I liked and didnt like about the film, I think the cast was kind of bland actually but it was still more of a real movie than the overhyped Avengers. I think the positives it got was because it felt more old fashioned and normal, not blatant anti-white propaganda.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 11:22:21 GMT
They (Disney) did botch the marketing for this . And they really should have called it John Carter of Mars (not just John Carter) .
For all its faults, I enjoyed it for the most part .
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 17, 2017 11:27:06 GMT
I liked John carter. It was no more flawed than most summer tent pole films.
It's score was sublime (If it had been a hit, the score would have been nominated) and I miss the dog thing.
The marketing was truly horrendous. I don't think I've seen worse marketing for a film and it even carried over to the posters and DVD cover art.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 17, 2017 12:01:45 GMT
Do you believe the official story that Andrew Stanton had carte blanche on the film and screwed it up? I don't. I think Disney HQ deliberately fucked it up as much as they could and sabotaged the marketing so it would fail. Why? I thought you were gonna say it was a tax scheme, ala The Producers. But the white MRA conspiracy works.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 17, 2017 12:24:39 GMT
He had serious PTSD regarding his dead family if I recall. For my money the movie was fantastic. It failed due to misguided marketing, but mostly because it ironically felt derivative. People have been ripping off Burroughs for a hundred years, to the point that when Hollywood got around to making a big budget adaptation of his work, it was a story audiences had already seen countless times.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 17, 2017 12:43:49 GMT
and I miss the dog thing. Haha yeah.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 17, 2017 12:52:58 GMT
He had serious PTSD regarding his dead family if I recall. I remember that but I also recall when he is fighting the martians there is flashbacks to his war experience--and the impression I got in that scene was that he was coming to terms with it--like a catharsis. So it wasn't failure per se. I should revisit it for second impressions.
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